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Passenger

(217 posts)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 08:39 AM Aug 2021

FBI Finds Scant Evidence U.S. Capitol Attack Was Coordinated-Sources (Reuters)

FBI Finds Scant Evidence U.S. Capitol Attack Was Coordinated-Sources (Reuters)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

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Note: Unnamed sources of course.
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FBI Finds Scant Evidence U.S. Capitol Attack Was Coordinated-Sources (Reuters) (Original Post) Passenger Aug 2021 OP
I call BS... 2naSalit Aug 2021 #1
If its ninety to ninety five "one off" Blues Heron Aug 2021 #2
The next time I go to a peaceful Beachnutt Aug 2021 #3
It was a bluedevil4 Aug 2021 #5
It was "instigated" by Republicans, especially Trump, a form of "coordination" gulliver Aug 2021 #4
Like these guys? BeckyDem Aug 2021 #6
I'll wait for the House commission....this smells of bullshit spanone Aug 2021 #7
At the rally everyonematters Aug 2021 #8
But your honor I was misled by my facebook group Beachnutt Aug 2021 #9
This FBI "report" is all the rage today on RW media. Midnight Writer Aug 2021 #10
And WE all know this is utter bullshit. ananda Aug 2021 #11
Large scale meetings the night before and phone traffic say otherwise. Ligyron Aug 2021 #12
Didn't we all learn not to listen to some sources at the FBI in 2016? Hugin Aug 2021 #13
Its author was thrown out of the U.K. for being a national security threat. SalviaBlue Aug 2021 #14
I would think the FBI would want to know the name of those "four unnamed sources"? kentuck Aug 2021 #15
Yeah Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #16
Do they own a tv? lame54 Aug 2021 #17
It's how conspiracy works. Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #18
I 95% don't believe the FBI RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #19
The right wing line seems to be two contradictory explanations in quantum superposition ... Passenger Aug 2021 #20

Blues Heron

(5,932 posts)
2. If its ninety to ninety five "one off"
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 09:05 AM
Aug 2021

then it's maybe TEN percent, not maybe five percent. Even their math is slippery.

Beachnutt

(7,324 posts)
3. The next time I go to a peaceful
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 09:13 AM
Aug 2021

gathering I'll be sure to bring zip ties, bear spray, gas mask,walkie talkie, bullet proof vest and a club...

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
4. It was "instigated" by Republicans, especially Trump, a form of "coordination"
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 09:16 AM
Aug 2021

It's not good that you have "five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized."

Basically, the ploy Trump and the Republicans under his command use is to act out and rile up. They don't tell people exactly what to do, but it is coordinative. It's classically Trumpian. Guys like Trump, Giuliani, and Josh Hawley didn't say, "breech the Capitol, warriors." They just said "fight" and "you're not going to have a country" and pumped their fist in the air. They said that kind of stuff to an angry mob. That's coordination.

Telling the mob of Trump supporters to fight was Trump's way of coordinating. It's the way he always coordinates. He makes it known what he wants. Gets results from scumbags. Then says they were fine, loving people after the fact. The people who take their life orders from him get it.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
6. Like these guys?
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 09:23 AM
Aug 2021

The report also detailed that while the FBI was investigating the Nassar allegations, the head of the FBI’s field office in Indianapolis, W. Jay Abbott, was talking to Penny about getting a job with the Olympic Committee. He applied for the job but didn’t get it and later retired from the FBI, the report said.

Abbott also lied to investigators from the inspector general’s office multiple times in an effort “to minimize errors” made by his office in handling the case, the report found.

https://apnews.com/article/larry-nasser-sex-abuse-fbi-4b52fc01892e771310435b046259b792

everyonematters

(3,433 posts)
8. At the rally
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 09:36 AM
Aug 2021

Moe Brooks says to kick ass and take names,

Guilliani says trial by combat

Trump: you have to be strong.

That is one hell of a coincidence for these people to be talking like that for what is supposed to be a peaceful rally.

Midnight Writer

(21,762 posts)
10. This FBI "report" is all the rage today on RW media.
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 09:49 AM
Aug 2021

It plays right into their alternative fact-based strategy of portraying the insurrection as no big deal, a mole hill that the Liberals are inflating for political gain.

ananda

(28,859 posts)
11. And WE all know this is utter bullshit.
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 10:06 AM
Aug 2021

It was coordinated by Trump, his cohorts, members
of Congress and the Senate, and others.

Even Ginny Thomas paid for buses.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
12. Large scale meetings the night before and phone traffic say otherwise.
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021

Hell, they had a “war room” set up in a nearby hotel and phone traffic between insurrections and GQP congress critters and even WH staff would show that I bet.

If it were allowed to be released.

We need The House back in session now and the Truth out.

Hugin

(33,140 posts)
13. Didn't we all learn not to listen to some sources at the FBI in 2016?
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 10:25 AM
Aug 2021

Yeah, not buying this either.

Not well coordinated doesn't equal unplanned, anyway.

kentuck

(111,094 posts)
15. I would think the FBI would want to know the name of those "four unnamed sources"?
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 11:46 AM
Aug 2021

Where is Chris Wray?

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
18. It's how conspiracy works.
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 12:35 PM
Aug 2021

Nothing gets written down, yet a lot of evil happens.

Martin Lomasney, an old West End political boss from Boston, is best remembered for his warning to young politicians everywhere — “Never write if you can speak; never speak if you can nod; never nod if you can wink”.

https://pioneerinstitute.org/news/dont-nod-if-you-can-wink/

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
19. I 95% don't believe the FBI
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 12:40 PM
Aug 2021

Wray didn't even look at evidence, he just made up a conclusion he liked

Just the KAV investigation

 

Passenger

(217 posts)
20. The right wing line seems to be two contradictory explanations in quantum superposition ...
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 12:59 PM
Aug 2021

Yes I read right wing sites, though I won't link them here.

1) It was a peaceful protest and a few people got out of hand.
2) It was an FBI false flag.

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