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kentuck

(111,089 posts)
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 06:32 AM Aug 2021

Will the Taliban permit US Embassy functions after Americans leave?

Perhaps this is something they have been negotiating?

If so, it would permit stragglers, and Americans left behind, an avenue to leave the country at a later time?

One week from today, the Americans are supposed to be out of the country of Afghanistan.

However, it is unlikely that everyone that wanted leave will have left at that time.

We read that the CIA Chief, William Burns, is in Kabul meeting with Baradar, a leader of the Taliban, but we do not know exactly what they are discussing?

It would probably be of interests to both sides, if Americans did continue the operation for a while, because the Taliban is a splintered bunch of fighters with no one leader at this time. It might give them more time to come to some sort of leadership decision? Also, it might keep the ISIS terrorists, that are in Kabul, at bay until the American troops can get out of the country safely without being attacked?

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Will the Taliban permit US Embassy functions after Americans leave? (Original Post) kentuck Aug 2021 OP
I think... Mike Nelson Aug 2021 #1
Were the Americans a stabilizing influence in Afghanistan? kentuck Aug 2021 #3
Why not? It would be quite useful for supporting Islamic attacks in Central Asia, China and Russia? Klaralven Aug 2021 #2
Are we recognizing their legitimacy? Bucky Aug 2021 #4
I don't think the Kabul airport will be their base camp. kentuck Aug 2021 #5
The Taliban does not want IS, nor do the Chinese or Russians. haele Aug 2021 #6
Not likely, if US does ant recognize them. brooklynite Aug 2021 #7

Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
1. I think...
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 06:50 AM
Aug 2021

... the original plan was no, none should remain. There was going to be a brutal Civil War as our US-trained Afghan friends fought for their freedom... so, Americans would be unsafe. Since their army of appx 300,000 gave up, maybe we could start thinking about an embassy, again. Probably later rather than sooner, but it might be wise...it would tell us what the Taliban intends... will they permit embassies from former enemy countries? I believe we have an embassy in Saudi Arabia; certainly, they treat Africans, Gays, Women, Christians, Jews, etc. poorly - and the chop up reporters.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
3. Were the Americans a stabilizing influence in Afghanistan?
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:20 AM
Aug 2021

Perhaps?

We will see if all American presence is removed.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
2. Why not? It would be quite useful for supporting Islamic attacks in Central Asia, China and Russia?
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:02 AM
Aug 2021

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
4. Are we recognizing their legitimacy?
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:26 AM
Aug 2021

I guess they're needed for getting any remaining Americans out of there. I'm not sure that city isn't gonna be on fire three months from now. I'd hate for us to just leave a crew there to serve as target practice for any disgruntled extremist groups--of which there will be plenty as conditions gradually worsen.

Kabul will be a real shit show three months from now. Without Uncle Sam playing Cupid for the factions w/in the Taliban, thy're gonna start turning on each other. And there's no better way to gain street cred than to attack the Great Satan's embassy.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
5. I don't think the Kabul airport will be their base camp.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:33 AM
Aug 2021

The Embassy would be the only American connection left in Afghanistan, I would guess?

haele

(12,650 posts)
6. The Taliban does not want IS, nor do the Chinese or Russians.
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:48 AM
Aug 2021

I suspect we will have at some sort of diplomatic or presence by proxy in Afghanistan, much as we do in other countries where the official policy may be "US not welcome", but there still needs to be communication between countries.

The Taliban want to be world players, apparently planning to model themselves after Pakistan or UAE whether or not they can transition from an opposition/fighting force to governance. They need diplomacy to be relevant.

Leading and winning is easy. Governance is hard.

Haele

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