Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:53 AM

lees1975 (2,294 posts)

Quit Calling the Afghanistan Evacuation a "Debacle"

Put the emphasis for a debacle where it belongs, on the Republicans, Bush and Trump. Biden is demonstrating more competence and expertise, and is acting more like we expect from a President of the United States than anyone who was involved with this has acted. And if you believe otherwise, you're listening to the wrong source of information.

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Quit Calling the Afghanistan Evacuation a "Debacle" (Original post)	lees1975	Aug 2021	OP
MeidasTouch-The media has failed us. They owe President Biden and the U.S. Military a major apology.	LetMyPeopleVote	Aug 2021	#1
Afghanistan is the usual - Democrats cleaning up after the GOP.	Thomas Hurt	Aug 2021	#2
the war was a debacle of epic proportions...	agingdem	Aug 2021	#4
The instant that you agree	Mad_Machine76	Aug 2021	#3
Seriously	Jilly_in_VA	Aug 2021	#5
Does anyone know why John Oliver dislikes President Biden? He was pretty harsh again this week.	BoomaofBandM	Aug 2021	#6
Out you	obnoxiousdrunk	Aug 2021	#7
What did he say that was inaccurate?	Treefrog	Aug 2021	#10
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Aug 2021	#8
Pissed me off the other day when CNN or MSNBC had to make the last 24 hours less good.	halfulglas	Aug 2021	#9

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:55 AM

LetMyPeopleVote (124,364 posts)

1. MeidasTouch-The media has failed us. They owe President Biden and the U.S. Military a major apology.

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:57 AM

Thomas Hurt (13,521 posts)

2. Afghanistan is the usual - Democrats cleaning up after the GOP.

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:16 PM

agingdem (6,238 posts)

4. the war was a debacle of epic proportions...

bush/cheney/rumsfeld...shock and awe..shove our brand of democracy down Afghans' throats, take their oil, and get the hell out...simple, clean, no casualties...except maybe on the Afghan side but so what, right?!...going in, staying in...easy...getting out was never going to be anything but a major clusterfuck...twenty years..lots of military, support staff, contractors, engineers, mechanics, pilots, doctors/nurses and on and on...we're out...thank you Joe...

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 11:59 AM

Mad_Machine76 (23,438 posts)

3. The instant that you agree

that the withdrawal has been a "disaster" you're buying into the media and RW framing of the issue. And if we assume the Taliban are rational actors, they would (likely) attempt any major attacks against US forces out of fear of immediate and certain reprisals.

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:25 PM

Jilly_in_VA (7,382 posts)

5. Seriously

We are getting people out with no casualties, basically. Thousands of them.

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:28 PM

BoomaofBandM (1,603 posts)

6. Does anyone know why John Oliver dislikes President Biden? He was pretty harsh again this week.

I know, he is a comedian and not a politician. Not that he cares, but we will probably stop watching him.

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 12:33 PM

obnoxiousdrunk (2,742 posts)

7. Out you

go John Oliver .

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:34 PM

Treefrog (4,170 posts)

10. What did he say that was inaccurate?

Really amazed at how so many have turned on previous media darlings.

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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 03:13 PM

halfulglas (1,392 posts)

9. Pissed me off the other day when CNN or MSNBC had to make the last 24 hours less good.

They made the true comment that the total evacuated in last 24 hours was phenomenal, then had to rub in "but not every single seat on some flights was filled." They still weren't good enough because a few seats on some flights were empty.

They obviously know nothing about flight logistics. A friend had a relative involved in the Berlin Airlift, the answer the Russian blockade of West Berlin trying to starve them out. He told stories about how important it was to keep the planes moving. You don't stop for the small things. In that case it was supplies coming into Berlin. But you didn't want to miss your slot.

In this case less than perfect to the media means a "debacle." Needless to say, I'm not watching much cable news lately. Might have it on in the background or on another floor. Every half hour there is at least one segment of Biden not being perfect. I'm tired of it.

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