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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:03 PM Aug 2021

Six years for the first Whitmer defendant

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (AP) — A man upset over state-ordered coronavirus restrictions was sentenced to just over six years in prison Wednesday for planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a significant break that reflected his quick decision to cooperate and help agents build cases against others.

Ty Garbin admitted his role in the alleged scheme weeks after his arrest last fall. He is among six men charged in federal court but the only one to plead guilty so far. It was a key victory for prosecutors as they try to prove an astonishing plot against the others.

Garbin apologized to Whitmer, who was not in court, and her family…

https://www.wsaw.com/2021/08/25/1st-sentence-be-handed-down-michigan-governor-kidnapping-plot/


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Six years for the first Whitmer defendant (Original Post) BeyondGeography Aug 2021 OP
WHY aren't the Capitol Insurrectionists getting similar sentences???? Sogo Aug 2021 #1
Good question. BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #4
cuz these guys were planning murder. mopinko Aug 2021 #6
Was there not a working gallows? CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #7
i doubt it would have held up. rly, they were out for blood, ferealz. mopinko Aug 2021 #8
It wouldn't have. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #23
Fake gallows. Real flagpoles, real Qonfederate flag, real lives lost, real threat to democracy. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #25
shame they did not 'self-test' it out to see if it was actually functional Celerity Aug 2021 #21
so were some of the insurrectionists. Sogo Aug 2021 #10
They haven't been able to build a solid enough case localroger Aug 2021 #14
+1 for thinking it through. I also agree with your view that Feds are looking very diligently. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #17
Six years for the first guy to cut his deal gratuitous Aug 2021 #2
"upset over state-ordered coronavirus restrictions" hibbing Aug 2021 #3
Great news malaise Aug 2021 #5
Good. If this is the sentence for the person cooperating, the others are screwed. Vinca Aug 2021 #9
Hope they're scared to death Auggie Aug 2021 #13
Some people are having an extremely bad night tonight BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #24
Seems fair Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #11
FREEDOM!!! underpants Aug 2021 #12
Freedumb gab13by13 Aug 2021 #15
How stunning! A Republican/Nazi criminal actually arrested, convicted and sentenced. Maybe johnthewoodworker Aug 2021 #16
I'm prtty sure Governor Whitmer soldierant Aug 2021 #19
That's pretty long for one who cooperates. The others better watch out. Pepsidog Aug 2021 #20
Yep Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #22
Dangerous nuts with access to guns. Lock 'em all up and toss the key. oasis Aug 2021 #26

mopinko

(70,022 posts)
8. i doubt it would have held up. rly, they were out for blood, ferealz.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:25 PM
Aug 2021

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and had the actual means to do it.

ShazzieB

(16,284 posts)
23. It wouldn't have.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 07:35 PM
Aug 2021

Look at the pictures again, at the flimsy pieces of wood and the stringy cord used to make the noose. There's no way that thing could have supported the weight of an adult. It was more like a replica of a gallows than an actual working gallows.

Did the builder(s) really think they were going to hang Mike Pence or anyone else on that thing? Who knows. Considering the mean i.q. of that mob, it's not impossible. But it was so blatantly inadequate to the task that defense attorneys could easily argue that it was just constructed for show, thereby creating "reasonable doubt" about the true intentions of its constructor(s).

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Sogo

(4,986 posts)
10. so were some of the insurrectionists.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:30 PM
Aug 2021

They would have killed any of Pence, Pelosi, AOC, or other prominent lawmakers if they had found them.

localroger

(3,622 posts)
14. They haven't been able to build a solid enough case
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:05 PM
Aug 2021

The Feds don't like losing cases they prosecute. They are going for things they are sure can be proved beyond reasonable doubt with the evidence at hand so far. The kidnap guys left more clues per person and there was a CI who could solidly tie them all together (who himself got 6 years, so the rest of them are looking at a lot longer). Should that kind of evidence emerge in the Jan 6 case -- and they're looking very diligently -- you can expect more charges.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Six years for the first guy to cut his deal
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:05 PM
Aug 2021

His co-defendants have to figure they're going to get 10 years or more. That's too bad. Sad, even.

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
3. "upset over state-ordered coronavirus restrictions"
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:06 PM
Aug 2021

Well, at least his life won't be restricted while he's in prison for 6 years, or however long he actually serves.

Peace

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
16. How stunning! A Republican/Nazi criminal actually arrested, convicted and sentenced. Maybe
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:14 PM
Aug 2021

he can use his jail time to study about science and vaccines.

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