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Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:45 AM

Charles M. Blow @CharlesMBlow: Read my column, "The Anti-Gay Agenda













(The exceptional, Charles Blow, as always.)

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Sympthsical Aug 2021 #1
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Response to BeckyDem (Original post)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:02 AM

1. Not sure how he got through that article without mentioning religion

Especially in the black community, where church is much more of a social adhesive than you'd find in other communities.

Just as white evangelicals give the LGBT community the hardest time, black churches haven't been so great either.

It seems like the author is at pains to pin it all on white supremacy. Doesn't bring up religion one iota.

Yeah, no. In my life experience as a gay man, the vast majority of problems I've seen for gay people, including myself, comes howling out of conservative religious communities.

Start there.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:08 AM

2. Charles is speaking from a perspectiive that is his own. I believe that is his focus.

I doubt he feels he needs to start anywhere else.

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Response to BeckyDem (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:14 AM

3. I honestly cannot find his point in it

There's a germ of an idea somewhere in that article. I kept waiting for it to arrive. It's descriptive, but not dispositive. It's impossible to interrogate homophobia in black males and black communities without casting an eye at the church.

That he somehow arrives at the end with, "Well, white supremacy," is trite at best.

He somehow explores the issue without going anywhere.

It was a strange article. And, as I said, I didn't catch what he was trying to do with it. The article read like, "Today we will talk about the ocean. However, we will not be discussing water."

Just my perspective as a gay man.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:29 AM

4. It is impossible to do from your perspective, not for Charles.

From Baldwin, which Charles Blow links to:

Did you ever hear antigay rhetoric in church?

Not in the church I grew up in. Iím sure thatís still true. Everyone is a child of God, according to us.

Didnít people ever call you faggot uptown?



Of course. But thereís a difference in the way itís used. Itís got less venom, at least in my experience. I donít know of anyone who has ever denied his brother or his sister because they were gay. No doubt it happens. It must happen. But in the generality, a black person has got quite a lot to get through the day without getting entangled in all the American fantasies.

https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/06/22/james-baldwin-on-being-gay-in-america/

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