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*****BREAKING***** 57% of California voters plan to vote against Republican led recall (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 OP
Excellent news. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #1
Sent mine in with as big NO. Polly Hennessey Aug 2021 #16
Not sure how reliable that pollster is, but I sure hope so JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2
I think they have a strong democratic bias. Just have to throw them in the average ColinC Aug 2021 #5
11% of the vote is in DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #8
Thanks JohnSJ Aug 2021 #11
I thought they didn't start counting until the polls are closed (?) ailsagirl Aug 2021 #48
They scan and open the return envelopes, count the ballot on Election Day More_Cowbell Aug 2021 #50
I'm glad-- but honestly, I thought we'd be WAY ahead ailsagirl Aug 2021 #54
They don't count the votes until the day of the election DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #52
Glad you did! ailsagirl Aug 2021 #53
Hopeful news, let's hope it comes out that way...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #3
CA is a blue state. roamer65 Aug 2021 #4
100% Agree ace3csusm Aug 2021 #40
Great news! Let's hope it works out that way. Jim__ Aug 2021 #6
Got my ballot on my table Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #7
I sure hope so. As Chris Hayes has been pointing out recently, the whole thing makes no Vinca Aug 2021 #9
I've thought the same thing -n/t Retired Engineer Bob Aug 2021 #14
Get those ballots in, people, now!!! RockRaven Aug 2021 #10
Best news I've heard ALL month! Awesome K and R! NewsCenter28 Aug 2021 #13
I should hope so! Rt TY Cha Aug 2021 #12
If Gavin manages to stay, I hear calls for an audit in 3, 2, 1...n/t Retired Engineer Bob Aug 2021 #15
Every one of us in CA must do our part and vote. Grokenstein Aug 2021 #17
I've been wearing my "VOTE" N95 mask. BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #21
If this goes bad and some RePutinican AssHat becomes Governor and Sen Feinstein should need to NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #18
Hope "plan" equates to "doing" Auggie Aug 2021 #19
If you are mailing your ballot in, like I did, do it asap. chowder66 Aug 2021 #20
Good. Otherwise we'll end up losing the Senate. budkin Aug 2021 #22
How nycbos Aug 2021 #44
Diane Feinstein is ancient budkin Aug 2021 #55
I don't trust polls except at the ballot box ... aggiesal Aug 2021 #23
Let's hope they turn in the ballots! cally Aug 2021 #24
Change is a pretty pro-Dem outfit, right? BlueCheeseAgain Aug 2021 #25
Come on, California. Moebym Aug 2021 #26
Fantastic news California Kid Aug 2021 #27
I don't want anyone to be complacent vote like it's 57% for the recall kimbutgar Aug 2021 #28
Yes, if bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #29
Change Research leans way left according to 538 IronLionZion Aug 2021 #30
It has a mean reverted bias of D 2 9. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #31
I hope you're right IronLionZion Aug 2021 #35
Everybody gets a ballot in the mail along with a self addressed stamped envelope to return it in. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #37
Is it a simple majority or 2/3rds to trigger recall? Tommy Carcetti Aug 2021 #32
Simple majority. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #36
Simple majority - which is why Newsom could get 49.9% and and GOP could get 3% & become governor. NullTuples Aug 2021 #39
Please California bluestarone Aug 2021 #33
K&R for, from your lips to Zeus's ear! UTUSN Aug 2021 #34
Two actual "NO" votes from our home. NullTuples Aug 2021 #38
Never trust polls with wording like that SpankMe Aug 2021 #41
Everyone in CA need to vote No. And encourage others to do same. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #42
Take absolutely nothing for granted. nycbos Aug 2021 #43
It is little more than a power grab by the exiled California Republican Party, being fueled... DSandra Aug 2021 #45
Exactly!! nt ailsagirl Aug 2021 #47
I fervently hope so ailsagirl Aug 2021 #46
I hope they vote.. oh please vote! mountain grammy Aug 2021 #49
Just mailed mine. The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2021 #51
Gotta say, I'm still nervous. summer_in_TX Aug 2021 #56
"Plan to vote" Hoo boy. Wouldn't trust this one. Sympthsical Aug 2021 #57

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
8. 11% of the vote is in
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 03:46 PM
Aug 2021

Returned Ballots So Far

58% Democrats
22% Indys
21% Reps.

Based on polling 80-85% of Democrats, 40% of Indys, and 10% of Republicans are voting against the recall. If they stopped counting today No is between 58-60%.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
50. They scan and open the return envelopes, count the ballot on Election Day
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:29 PM
Aug 2021

So they know how many Democrats and Republicans have returned ballots.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
52. They don't count the votes until the day of the election
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:21 PM
Aug 2021

However they update the number of ballots returned by registration every day. I took those numbers and matched them to polls.

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
40. 100% Agree
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 05:10 PM
Aug 2021

This cost us CA residents millions for what...and the whole idea that 50.1% is needed stay...change this NOW...

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
9. I sure hope so. As Chris Hayes has been pointing out recently, the whole thing makes no
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 03:46 PM
Aug 2021

sense if 49% could vote to not recall the governor which would trigger his ouster and the highest point getter of the losers running against him to get the job. They might have a lousy 15% of the vote. 49% loses, 15% wins. What a stupid, stupid provision in the California constitution.

Grokenstein

(5,727 posts)
17. Every one of us in CA must do our part and vote.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:11 PM
Aug 2021

We've been through this nonsense before, and we know what's at stake this time.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,456 posts)
18. If this goes bad and some RePutinican AssHat becomes Governor and Sen Feinstein should need to
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:14 PM
Aug 2021

be replaced, well, u can do the math.

chowder66

(9,077 posts)
20. If you are mailing your ballot in, like I did, do it asap.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:18 PM
Aug 2021

I sent my on August 17th and have been watching for an update from ballotrax but nothing as of yet.

budkin

(6,714 posts)
55. Diane Feinstein is ancient
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:20 PM
Aug 2021

Diane Feinstein is ancient And the governor would get to choose a replacement for her

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
23. I don't trust polls except at the ballot box ...
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:32 PM
Aug 2021

I've already turned in my "NO" ballot at the ROV in SD.

Get out and vote. The earlier the better.

Moebym

(989 posts)
26. Come on, California.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:34 PM
Aug 2021

If you recall your governor and replace him with that bozo, I will not visit your state again until you correct your error.

kimbutgar

(21,186 posts)
28. I don't want anyone to be complacent vote like it's 57% for the recall
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:36 PM
Aug 2021

These polls make people feel like it’s ok if I don’t vote Newsom can’t be recalled. NO

Vote no and drop off your ballot. I don’t trust the USPS under Dejoy it comes to ballots. I am waiting for our son to come home and we’ll drive down to the department of elections and drop off our ballots for our family.

bucolic_frolic

(43,280 posts)
29. Yes, if
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:38 PM
Aug 2021

you believe those polled will vote, don't lie to pollsters, and are a representative sample of what will actually occur on recall election day, and if you believe this poll result doesn't motivate those losing and diminish the resolve of those winning in the poll.

So I say all those things interplay and 7% has historically been within the margin of the GOP making most elections very close, althought don't extend any insight here for any experience monitoring or seeing results from California elections.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
31. It has a mean reverted bias of D 2 9.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 04:55 PM
Aug 2021

Those polls you cited are considerably older and don't capture Newsom's ads and the CA Denocratic machine turning out its voters

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
39. Simple majority - which is why Newsom could get 49.9% and and GOP could get 3% & become governor.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 05:08 PM
Aug 2021

It's a broken system.

It's been in place for a hundred years and here's the best part: nobody knows how, precisely, it became law. Oh, they know the general story about "progressives" but not who submitted those specific details of the mechanism, or why.

Time to modernize it.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
38. Two actual "NO" votes from our home.
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 05:06 PM
Aug 2021

Ballot envelopes are on the entranceway table, for whichever of us ventures out masked & keeping our distance into the world first.

SpankMe

(2,966 posts)
41. Never trust polls with wording like that
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 05:17 PM
Aug 2021

Polls have been very inaccurate over the last couple of national and local elections.

Plus, I'd have hoped for numbers closer to 68% No, 28% Yes and 4% undecided. I can't believe that anyone outside of the bottom-feeding Republican contingent would even consider a recall.

DSandra

(999 posts)
45. It is little more than a power grab by the exiled California Republican Party, being fueled...
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:11 PM
Aug 2021

By disgruntled business owners who care more about themselves than about spreading COVID. Governors should not be punished for making hard, brave choices when there are no possible choices that don’t hurt anyone.

summer_in_TX

(2,748 posts)
56. Gotta say, I'm still nervous.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 01:06 AM
Aug 2021

Polling has had some big fails lately.

Keep that full court press, California Dems! I'm rooting for you!

Sympthsical

(9,108 posts)
57. "Plan to vote" Hoo boy. Wouldn't trust this one.
Fri Aug 27, 2021, 01:49 AM
Aug 2021

That's one of those questions in statistics that can give an unreliable result due to "social acceptance" bias.

People will say they voted when they didn't. They'll say they will when they have no intention.

We saw a lot of this in Trump polling. People just didn't want to admit they were voting for the guy.

The methodology is also a self-selected sample via social media ads funneled through survey monkey, which is its own whole set of statistical bias problems.

I'm (very) cautiously optimistic about the recall lately. Already sent in our "no" votes here. But, I am nowhere near comfortable. Glancing at this outlier and how they came to these numbers doesn't make me feel any better.

Think they wanted some headlines.

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