Ivermectin can cause severe liver and/or kidney damage

[dflprincess]

so if the Covidiots manage to avoid dying from Covid after taking up space in ICUs, they'll wind up taking up space on transplant lists.

[tanyev]

1. No worries, a couple bottles of colloidal silver will clear that right up.

[TheBlackAdder]

2. You have to watch that stuff with farm animals. A slight mis-dose and they will die.

[JohnSJ]

3. One of the side effects MOOOOOOOing

[orleans]

7. ???

[JohnSJ]

11. Yes, ivermectin is used on cows

https://www.drugs.com/vet/ivermectin-injection-for-cattle-and-swine.html

[TheBlackAdder]

24. Just like with humans, it is also used for goats, sheep and a multitude of other animals.

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Feeding diatomaceous earth can also be a good anti-parasite/dewormer, and there are human grades of it as well.

You just better be spot on with your pounds of weight and ml ratios, else there will be dead animals around.

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[JohnSJ]

25. See it does deal with covid if you calculate wrong

[TheBlackAdder]

28. Yep. Your death certificate won't list COVID as the main cause of death. More like a drug overdose.

[ColinC]

4. I just had a heated argument with a friend about this.

He repeatedly accused me of being emotional because I called him out on the lies and half truths involved with this drug, and didn't allow him to repeat the same lies over and over. He didn't like that I called him a liar, and doubled down. Eventually I hung up on him and explained to him in an email how dangerous misleading and false information surrounding a disease can be. Many people seem to trivialize the deaths of all the people who are dead from misinformation, as if it is simply a number or hypothetical and not a human being. Others will not understand even after they die (likely because the brain ceases to function after death).

[krispos42]

10. Well, it's absolutely true that if you take enough ivermectin you won't get sick or die from Covid.

Of course, this is because you'll get sick and die from an ivermectin overdose.

Technically correct, the best kind of correct!


I applaud your efforts but I think at this point it's beyond reason. It's part of a cultural identity now, and dammit they're not going to change horses in mid-stream.

[ColinC]

12. This guy was vaxxed and did the right thing for himself but spreads info that could potentially

Kill others. It is almost worse than if he actually did it to himself.

[krispos42]

13. Yeah, well, maybe your internet doctor friend can take in an anti-vax ICU patient or two

Since the anti-vaxxers love internet medicine so much!

[ColinC]

16. WebMD was his primary source for his argument

[TreasonousBastard]

20. What? When did WebMD go to the dark side? Or he just an idiot?

[ColinC]

21. He isn't an idiot by nature. But by his cultish preference.

In this case it's a choice. He can help being otherwise but seems to choose not to. There's enough people like him to make him feel like he fits in.

[TreasonousBastard]

22. Don't know him so can't really talk, but my question is more...

about WebMD. I always thought they were pretty well mainstream and not into the woo. Have they gone nuts, or is he misreading them?

[ColinC]

23. He is misreading them.

He looked up the side effects of ivermectin on WebMD and tried to use that as a basis for it being safe.

[brewens]

5. I fear that many of "The Wormers" don't have much shelf life left on their livers.

Quite a few alcohol junkies among TFG followers in my area.

[Initech]

6. And it's naturally causing uncontrollable diarrhea.

Which is hardly at all shocking.

[dalton99a]

14. Tractor Supply carries kaolin pectin for horses and cattle

32 oz. for $6.99

Half a gallon should do it

[orleans]

8. ...

[dflprincess]

17. Just say "Neigh"

[orleans]

19. perfect! LOL nt

[RockRaven]

9. I strongly encourage the people in charge of transplant lists to treat ivermectin-taking covidiots

like they would other people with a history of medication/treatment non-compliance, or like currently drinking alcoholics, etc... That level of oppositional-defiant stupid self-harm is functionally equivalent to those other things when it comes to prudent allocation of lifesaving but scarce resources.

[3catwoman3]

26. No argument from me.

I’d be in favor of palliative care only.

[roamer65]

15. It will help balance against their brain damage.

[Backseat Driver]

18. NAFLD/NASH is a silent liver epidemic

more common in men (even those who abstain from alcoholic beverages) than women and more prevalent in the obese and diabetic; there are few signs of illness progression to cirrhosis or liver cancer. It may be a genetic polymorphism or idiopathic, the scientists just don't know how or when progression occurs. There is no FDA-approved protocol of treatment save transplant. Chemotherapy and radiation therapies that treat other chronic co-morbidities or other cancers often cannot be used because the liver is so damaged, the immune system so exhausted, that therapy modalities cannot safely be accomplished; in one's weakened state, surgery is likely to result in death on the table - a terminal loop death sentence has set itself up, and it doesn't care that you're young or might prefer to fight and live.

The patient is condemned at that point to a somewhat long process awaiting the reaper, getting those death ducks in a row, and perhaps self-paying for the privilege of counseling and palliative comfort for pain in excess of hospice's 6 month limits, dementia-like brain changes, suffering indignities, and immobilities due to weakness, but 24/7 care is required and independence/privacy/modesty is forever shattered. Each paracentesis for ascites or pic line for dialysis is a chance for life-threatening untreatable septic infection, a creep of multiple-organ failures than begin with increasing episodes of nausea and vomiting, bleeding esophageal varices, diarrhea, heart arrhythmias, clotting in brain vessels with encephalopathic dementia, and ends wherever one's advance directive does (defibrillation, CPR, ventilator, ECMO, feeding tube?).

Just get the FDA-approved vaccine(s) and a booster if it's been a while! Remember, flu season is also right around the counter - give your body time to process the booster and then other responsible vaccines.

[harumph]

27. That brightens my Saturday!

[FakeNoose]

29. They'll insist that the transplant liver has to come from an unvaccinated donor

[democrattotheend]

30. Is this a serious risk in human doses?

Or is this mostly a risk if people take things into their own hands and self-administer ivermectin that is intended for animals?

[dflprincess]

31. I gather in animal doses

though even the human doses can be dangerous depending on any preexisting conditions and it's used for very specific parasites.

Interestingly, it can make asthma worse, so you have to wonder what it would do to someone having other breathing problems

here is a link to Mayo's info on the drug.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/ivermectin-oral-route/before-using/drg-20064397