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dlk

(11,540 posts)
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:02 AM Aug 2021

It seems the Jan 6th insurrectionists are receiving the kid glove treatment from the justice system

A violent attempt to overthrow the government and murder our elected leaders is not a day at the beach, and deserves much stronger treatment than what we’ve seen so far. Where’s the deterrent?

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It seems the Jan 6th insurrectionists are receiving the kid glove treatment from the justice system (Original Post) dlk Aug 2021 OP
The judicial branch is infested with MAGATs. Politicub Aug 2021 #1
Yes, non-voters forget elections have consequences dlk Aug 2021 #10
It is a little known aspect of our criminal justice system Tomconroy Aug 2021 #2
Yes, courts just want to dispose of cases as quickly as possible dlk Aug 2021 #11
white is all you need to know Casady1 Aug 2021 #3
Makes me wonder if the cops aren't in on the crime. Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #4
White supremacists have been infiltrating law enforcement for awhile now dlk Aug 2021 #12
Wolff, Wick, Bourne, and McCall wyn borkins Aug 2021 #5
Sounds like a plan dlk Aug 2021 #13
I will see what happens, but between this, tampering with ballots in Arizona, and suppressive JohnSJ Aug 2021 #6
Mostly they're not being charged for murder, attempted murder, and their Johonny Aug 2021 #7
I wish our armchair prosecutors would tell us how long it should take... brooklynite Aug 2021 #8
The OP does not seem to complain about timing so much as about how those who have been Atticus Aug 2021 #9
Yes, more perpetrators could have been remanded into custody and given stiffer fines dlk Aug 2021 #14
My impression is that the resolved cases were more minor trespass and property damage charges brooklynite Aug 2021 #18
My impression is that none of the trespasses or property damage at the Capitol were "minor". Atticus Aug 2021 #19
They committed treason and are being charged with trespassing. nt Baltimike Aug 2021 #15
Exactly dlk Aug 2021 #16
AMEN! 634-5789 Aug 2021 #17

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
1. The judicial branch is infested with MAGATs.
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:05 AM
Aug 2021

I’m disappointed, but not surprised that they favor insurrectionsits.

dlk

(11,540 posts)
10. Yes, non-voters forget elections have consequences
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:10 PM
Aug 2021

And Republicans appoint too many partisans to the bench.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
2. It is a little known aspect of our criminal justice system
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:07 AM
Aug 2021

That when the number of defendants jam up the court house, the deals tend to get a lot better.

dlk

(11,540 posts)
11. Yes, courts just want to dispose of cases as quickly as possible
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:12 PM
Aug 2021

Although, prosecutors could do better with the deals they offer.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
3. white is all you need to know
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:13 AM
Aug 2021

If this was BLM we are discussing how many dead and life imprisonment for treason.

dlk

(11,540 posts)
12. White supremacists have been infiltrating law enforcement for awhile now
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:13 PM
Aug 2021

We’re seeing the consequences.

wyn borkins

(1,109 posts)
5. Wolff, Wick, Bourne, and McCall
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:22 AM
Aug 2021

Perhaps we need to have this insurrectionist business handled by the Wolff, Wick, Bourne, and McCall firm.

Here is a relevant quotation from John Wick - Chapter 2:

John To Winston: Tell them. Tell them all. Whoever comes, whoever it is, I'll kill them. I'll kill them all.

Winston To John: Of course you will.

JohnSJ

(92,115 posts)
6. I will see what happens, but between this, tampering with ballots in Arizona, and suppressive
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:23 AM
Aug 2021

voting law in some states, I am not impressed with the DOJ in dealing with these issues up to now


brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
8. I wish our armchair prosecutors would tell us how long it should take...
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:33 AM
Aug 2021

...to go from indictment to trial to conviction.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
9. The OP does not seem to complain about timing so much as about how those who have been
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 11:55 AM
Aug 2021

convicted are treated. I do not think a "no jail time" disposition coupled with little or no monetary restitution is appropriate for anyone who trespassed beyond the police barriers on January 6th.

These are seen as "slaps on the wrist" and are eroding respect for the law among law-abiding citizens. Yes, it takes time to get convictions, but if defendants who took part in an attempted coup are not incarcerated for some period of time once they are convicted, why bother?

Is there any doubt that if January 6th had involved a similar size group of BLM protestors, a much more "aggressive" attitude would prevail in prosecuting the SURVIVORS?


dlk

(11,540 posts)
14. Yes, more perpetrators could have been remanded into custody and given stiffer fines
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 12:17 PM
Aug 2021

Getting out of jail for a vacation or a wedding, for example, isn’t much of a deterrent.

brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
18. My impression is that the resolved cases were more minor trespass and property damage charges
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 02:35 PM
Aug 2021

The violent assault cases are likely to take longer to prosecute.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
19. My impression is that none of the trespasses or property damage at the Capitol were "minor".
Sat Aug 28, 2021, 03:42 PM
Aug 2021

The "penalties" in many cases were ridiculously lenient---IMHO, of course.

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