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Polybius

(15,336 posts)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:40 PM Aug 2021

Parents, students asking Webster Groves School District to let girls wear crop tops

WEBSTER GROVES, Mo. (KMOV.com) -- Parents and students are asking Webster Groves School District to let girls wear crop top shirts. The group wants a change and the district says no and are pushing back on claims of sexist rules.

“My daughters' abdomen is not a distraction, you need to look away,” said parent Jennifer Grotpeter.

Grotpeter is the mother of two daughters, a junior and senior in the district. She believes the school’s dress code is biased toward young girls, specially the guidelines for shirts that showcase the stomach aka crop tops.

“For years, we've been fighting an unequitable dress code in Webster Groves,” said Grotpeter.

https://www.kmov.com/news/parents-students-asking-webster-groves-school-district-to-let-girls-wear-crop-tops/article_bdd60fd8-0784-11ec-b90d-8be2e6ad4b4d.html?fbclid=IwAR1gKHpx0RFrhRPiKuK1RHlkrIzOR0KBIC5zBwvFqUN7xuOIFjZ9UorMmqU

My 2 cents: Let them wear it. From the link they barely show the stomach at all.

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Parents, students asking Webster Groves School District to let girls wear crop tops (Original Post) Polybius Aug 2021 OP
I'm sorry, missus grope peter... sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #1
And then whut if appendages do dangle? sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #2
Please re-type Polybius Aug 2021 #4
Females have upper level enhancements to their bodies that need staying put and not popping out down sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #5
That isn't how breasts work obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #14
Boobs hanging out and a$$cracks showing inna school environment.Yah, that's the ticket! sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #15
I saw plenty of breasts hanging out below crop tops yesterday. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #17
Not at any grammar or even high school setting, it's not conducive I don't think. sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #20
I was only responding to the suggestion that breasts don't work that way, Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #3
What the cornbread hell Jilly_in_VA Aug 2021 #6
"My daughters' abdomen is not a distraction, you need to look away," said parent Jennifer Grotpeter. elleng Aug 2021 #7
Why in the world are girls "showcasing their stomachs" in school? Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #8
What's Next...Bikinis? Me. Aug 2021 #9
I am so disappointed that we still have this problem SouthernLiberal Aug 2021 #10
Really? With all the covid raging on, parents LisaL Aug 2021 #11
Nudist parents might want their kids to go to school au naturale gulliver Aug 2021 #12
This is one reason that I favor school uniforms. Arkansas Granny Aug 2021 #13
Agree 100% zeusdogmom Aug 2021 #16
Not a fight I'd be picking at this point in time - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #18
Great point. crickets Aug 2021 #19
When I was in high school, early 'seventies, it was anarchy, and not just the dress code. hunter Aug 2021 #22

sprinkleeninow

(20,217 posts)
5. Females have upper level enhancements to their bodies that need staying put and not popping out down
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:56 PM
Aug 2021
below clothing. That's a possibility happening. Look, I'm not a prude, but kiddos don't need add'l distractions in school.

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
17. I saw plenty of breasts hanging out below crop tops yesterday.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 03:35 PM
Aug 2021

It was at a Pride event on a very hot day - so the crop tops were likely shorter - but breasts can hang out both at the top and the bottom, and some are designed for that purpose. (Do an image search on "underboob&quot

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
21. I was only responding to the suggestion that breasts don't work that way,
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 06:35 PM
Aug 2021

based on what I've seen in the last 24 hours.

Response to Polybius (Original post)

Jilly_in_VA

(9,945 posts)
6. What the cornbread hell
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 01:58 PM
Aug 2021

is a "mid-drift shirt"? Proofreaders, PLEASE!

And all you phony religious folks...Jesus said, "If your right eye offends you, pluck it out." He was speaking metaphorically, but what he meant was, stop looking, dumbazz. Muhammad also said, don't stare at women, doofus. They're all pretty well united, and men have got it wrong, blaming it all on the women. They need to pay attention to their own nasty minds.

And apparently the new definition of "crop top" is "if it shows even a teeny bit of skin when you raise your arms over your head." So somebody has time to go around policing THAT? JFC, what a waste of time. Meanwhile, is our children learning? I guess not. Their administrators isn't.

elleng

(130,751 posts)
7. "My daughters' abdomen is not a distraction, you need to look away," said parent Jennifer Grotpeter.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:02 PM
Aug 2021

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
8. Why in the world are girls "showcasing their stomachs" in school?
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:06 PM
Aug 2021

Why are parents making a stink FOR this? Fucking weird. Send your kids, male and female, in appropriate clothing.

SouthernLiberal

(407 posts)
10. I am so disappointed that we still have this problem
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:09 PM
Aug 2021

When I was in high school, many years ago, the students had an argument about the dress code. It started in mid winter, when several girls who walked to school wore pants. This was against the dress code, and they were sent home to change. Several lost the whole day, because they had no other choice but to walk to school wearing a skirt in below freezing weather. Others got a ride from parents. The next day, every single girl wore pants to school.

There were other conflicts about what girls could wear to school.

Come spring, the principal agreed at last to discuss the dress code with a group of students. It was, of course, all about what girls could wear. It was the same excuse that people use today - boys would be distracted by the clothing that girls wore. Some of what the principal said (like the ban on midi-skirts, which were popular at the time) lead me to believe that the principal was the one who was distracted by our clothing.

I think that is still the case.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
12. Nudist parents might want their kids to go to school au naturale
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:12 PM
Aug 2021

"Furry" parents might want their kids to go to school dressed like animal characters. Where does the line get drawn?

This is why we have democracy and school boards and school administrators. If a parent doesn't like a dress code rule they have a way to express it. They can vote. If their way gets voted down, then that's that.

zeusdogmom

(987 posts)
16. Agree 100%
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 03:17 PM
Aug 2021

Designated color bottom in pants or skirt, and a designated color polo shirt with a choice of long or shirt sleeves. Done! Makes life much simpler. And less expensive. Private schools have done this for eons. And in the last 20 years or so, some public schools. Ditto charter schools. My grandchildren wear school uniforms to a public charter school - makes mornings much easier. (blue polo shirt and black bottoms with a school t-shirt on Friday) Kids can “express themselves” in other ways.

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
18. Not a fight I'd be picking at this point in time -
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 03:43 PM
Aug 2021

But if I was drafting a dress code, school appropriate attire would include the top meeting the pants in a way that doesn't expose the belly or the butt crack.

I don't know about that particular school's dress code - but that requirement can be written in a way that is gender neutral.

Here's the equivalent of what I was seeing yesterday running around at a Pride festival:

https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article15243521.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_underboob-fashion-1297712

crickets

(25,952 posts)
19. Great point.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 04:46 PM
Aug 2021

It's absolutely possible to write a rule about this in a way that addresses both sexes. Boys can let their pants fall down and girls can let their boobs hang out of their crop tops all they like after school.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
22. When I was in high school, early 'seventies, it was anarchy, and not just the dress code.
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 07:39 PM
Aug 2021

Boys could wear shorts, but any boy who did got called "faggot" or worse.

Girls might wear shorts and tube tops but there were certain male teachers well known for making inappropriate comments, or even hitting on, girls who did.

And streaking...

I quit high school for college, which was one of the better decisions I've made in my life. I was allowed to attend graduation with the class ahead of mine however because my grandma had cancer and she wanted to see at least one of her grandchildren graduate. My grandma liked the pomp and circumstance. It was really awkward for me, since it was mostly people I didn't know except for a couple of other misfits in my own class, and older siblings of classmates. I didn't want to go.

There was a rule that everyone had to wear appropriate clothing beneath their caps and gowns because there had been a scandal the previous year with kids wearing swim suits, some of them quite skimpy.

Boys passed inspection with a simple glance, all that was required was for the trouser legs above their shoes to be visible. Girls were required to open their graduation robes.

My children suffered uniforms kindergarten through high school. It's largely an issue about gangs here so the majority of parents support strict dress codes. Economic factors may also play a large part.

I grew up in an affluent 99% white city. High school kids were intensely aware of "designer" clothes. My parents would buy our clothes at Sears on credit at the beginning of every school year.

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