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brooklynite

(93,355 posts)
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:14 PM Aug 2021

Biden faces Dem defections

Rep. Susan Wild (D-Pa.) said in a statement that it's "long past time" to end U.S. military presence in Afghanistan, but added: "it appears that the evacuation process has been egregiously mishandled."

In a phone interview with Axios, she added she doesn't place all the blame on Biden. She said there will be a lot to uncover through future congressional oversight hearings.

Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.), a former CIA officer who focused on counterterrorism efforts in the Middle East, spearheaded a bipartisan statement from the Problem Solvers Caucus calling on the administration to reconsider Tuesday's withdrawal deadline.

Reps. Mike Levin (D-Calif.) and Andy Kim (D-N.J.) also have called on Biden to extend the deadline.

…snip…

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.) distanced herself from the president as he reiterated his commitment to the withdrawal date: "We must complete this mission, regardless of any arbitrary deadlines."

A spokesman for Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), a Navy combat veteran, told Axios: "Senator Kelly has been critical of the administration’s execution of the withdrawal. ... [H]e has said in multiple press interviews since then that he sees the August 31st deadline as less important than accomplishing the mission of evacuating Americans and Afghan allies."


https://www.axios.com/midterms-democrats-distance-biden-afghanistan-policy-0953b31e-bab2-443b-be24-7fb6a52402e7.html

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JohnSJ

(91,595 posts)
1. What a bullshit headline. Defections? Disagreeing with someone isn't a defection, it is a
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:19 PM
Aug 2021

disagreement

A defection would be something like changing political parties

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
3. The Taliban and ISIS K would immediately attack the airport and our troops if we renege
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:23 PM
Aug 2021

Damned if Biden sticks to the deadline and leaves, damned if he orders we stay

Historic NY

(37,410 posts)
4. They knew this was coming, no one expected the Afghan army to surrender 300000 men..
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:26 PM
Aug 2021

and equipment. If the army was in place, things most likely would have been different. What disorder more than 115000 people have been evacuated from the country.

vercetti2021

(10,125 posts)
6. This is how we lost so badly in 2010
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 11:40 PM
Aug 2021

Dems ran away from Obama and healthcare because they were afraid of the backlash. Soured our side and enabled the right to take over

uponit7771

(90,164 posts)
7. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 While we see maga run TOWARDS sympathizing with 1/6 terrorist dems ran away from
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:35 AM
Aug 2021

... something that is now fairly popular because the messaging of ACA was all fucked up at the time.

Dems need better messaging

vercetti2021

(10,125 posts)
8. Exactly
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:38 AM
Aug 2021

We are pissing all over this messaging here. Literally I hate seeing our own eating each other over something Trump set into motion and Biden doing his best to fucking solve. Get behind your fucking man or GTFO of the party.

uponit7771

(90,164 posts)
10. Yep, this feels like the border story all over again. Where people were unjustifiably putting blame
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:48 AM
Aug 2021

... on Biden for border non "surge".

Biden admin warned people months ago to get out and there was always going to be an exit mob

Some dems are acting like Biden admin took no effort to get people out of Afghanistan until the last minute

I'm glad Biden is messaging that it was Putin's whore who set the deal with the Taliban

Tom Rinaldo

(22,909 posts)
12. A number of those "extend the deadline" criticisms were from before the Airport suicide bombing
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 06:15 AM
Aug 2021

Those American military casualties shut a lot of people up as the building danger our troops face every 24 hours they remain at that airport has become tragically evident.

It can be argued how much the Taliban have cooperated with us during our withdrawal because of that pull out deadline understanding, but they have not been fighting us on the way out. When we are pulling our last troops out, the only on the ground security our last planeloads have will come from Taliban fighters. Hundreds of American lives literally may depend on the U.S. honoring the deadline we set for removing our troops.

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