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MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 07:31 AM Aug 2021

New Zealand Reports First Death Linked to Pfizer Vaccine

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-30/new-zealand-reports-first-death-linked-to-pfizer-covid-vaccine
By Matthew Brockett
August 29, 2021

New Zealand health authorities reported what they believe to be the country’s first death linked to the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine.

A woman died from myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle wall, following her Pfizer vaccination, New Zealand’s Covid-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board said in an emailed statement on Monday. It said myocarditis is known to be a rare side effect of the Pfizer vaccine.

related: https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/clinicians-reminded-be-aware-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-symptoms

"Clinicians reminded to be aware of myocarditis and pericarditis symptoms

Media release
30 August 2021

The COVID-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board (CV-ISMB) has advised the Ministry of Health to ensure that healthcare professionals and consumers remain vigilant and are aware of the signs of myocarditis and pericarditis. This advice follows the CV-ISMB's review of the death of a woman following her Comirnaty Pfizer COVID-19 vaccination.

The CV-ISMB extends their sympathies to the woman’s family and friends during this difficult time and thanks the family for their assistance with this investigation.

The CV-ISMB has considered that the woman’s death was due to myocarditis, which is known to be a rare side effect of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.

The case has been referred to the Coroner and the cause of death has not yet been determined. The CV-ISMB considered that the myocarditis was probably due to vaccination. The CV-ISMB noted that there were other medical issues occurring at the same time which may have influenced the outcome following vaccination.

Further details cannot be released while the Coroner investigates.

In New Zealand, adverse events following vaccinations are reported to the Centre for Adverse Reactions Monitoring (CARM). All cases with a fatal outcome are referred to the CV-ISMB for review. CARM provides as much information on the case as possible for the clinical experts on the CV-ISMB to help them in their consideration of whether there was a link to vaccination."
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New Zealand Reports First Death Linked to Pfizer Vaccine (Original Post) MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 OP
The headline writer seems to have already marybourg Aug 2021 #1
I saw the header and guessed it would be you! obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #2
+1 PA Democrat Aug 2021 #3
+1 Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #7
1 death ...MAYBE .... attributed to vaccine uponit7771 Aug 2021 #4
yes one death which I'm sure matters a whole lot to the late woman's family MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #10
And you ornotna Aug 2021 #11
And let's not forget this one...Pfizer should not be approved? Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #18
ooooo i missed that one obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #20
It is so obvious. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #36
lolz obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #13
Seriously, Anti-Vax are you? Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #16
maybe read your own article? Blues Heron Aug 2021 #5
meaning they are seeing a link preliminarily MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Mariana Aug 2021 #38
I'd really like more details. Treefrog Aug 2021 #6
I hope full details should be coming soon considering the high degree MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #9
I don't give a damn...just more nonsense. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #17
Getting the vaccine is FAR safer than getting Covid NickB79 Aug 2021 #12
This is the first paragraph of the press release issued today by a NZ Health authority MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #14
She died after the booster shot? kentuck Aug 2021 #19
No, that is the name of the Pfizer CV19 vax obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #21
And? Your response didn't add anything to the conversation NickB79 Aug 2021 #23
Now you know it's not theoretical - it's a practical risk MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #24
It's always been a practical risk. People died from the Astra Zenica vaccine too NickB79 Aug 2021 #25
I have taken many vaccines in my life and never gotten sick MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #26
Exactly! The risk is THAT LOW! NickB79 Aug 2021 #28
Care to provide a list? retread Aug 2021 #31
Boner pills can cause death too... radicalleft Aug 2021 #15
There are no guarantees with any medicine FrankBooth Aug 2021 #22
Fine, don't get the vaccine. blogslug Aug 2021 #27
I hope the same for you too MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #29
What leads you to think your post is "too much" for anyone? LanternWaste Aug 2021 #30
Have you gotten the vaccine? n/m BradAllison Aug 2021 #37
and today's special is............FUD ala Kitty Celerity Aug 2021 #32
We see you. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #33
I see you too MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #34
One possible death out of edhopper Aug 2021 #35
When Hospitals begin denying healthcare to COVID19 patients because they are full of.... dilby Aug 2021 #39

Blues Heron

(8,521 posts)
5. maybe read your own article?
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:41 AM
Aug 2021

"The case has been referred to the Coroner and the cause of death has not yet been determined."

Response to MisterNiceKitty (Reply #8)

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
6. I'd really like more details.
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 08:53 AM
Aug 2021

Had she had both jabs? How long ago? How old was she? Was she in good health otherwise?

So many questions.

NickB79

(20,278 posts)
12. Getting the vaccine is FAR safer than getting Covid
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:42 AM
Aug 2021

And given how transmissible Delta is, everyone will be exposed eventually.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-increases-risk-of-heart-inflammation-and-blood-clots-more-than-the-vaccines-studies-find/

The study found the mRNA vaccines did increase risk of myocarditis, with about 1 to 5 events per 100,000 persons. However, the presence of COVID-19 increased that risk even more, with 11 events per 100,000 persons.


Unfortunately, most people suck at gauging relative risk in daily life. Vaccines are no different.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
14. This is the first paragraph of the press release issued today by a NZ Health authority
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:06 AM
Aug 2021
The COVID-19 Vaccine Independent Safety Monitoring Board (CV-ISMB) has advised the Ministry of Health to ensure that healthcare professionals and consumers remain vigilant and are aware of the signs of myocarditis and pericarditis. This advice follows the CV-ISMB's review of the death of a woman following her Comirnaty Pfizer COVID-19 vaccination.

NickB79

(20,278 posts)
23. And? Your response didn't add anything to the conversation
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:21 AM
Aug 2021

No one has ever said the risk of death from vaccines was 0.00%

If her death was from a vaccine reaction, it literally changes nothing. Your risk of death is still twice as high without the vaccine. Everyone should still get their vaccine. Because Delta will find you eventually.

Like I said, people really suck at gauging risk.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
24. Now you know it's not theoretical - it's a practical risk
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 11:57 AM
Aug 2021

I would follow the instructions in the NZ press release and contact my health care provider.

They can take it from there.

NickB79

(20,278 posts)
25. It's always been a practical risk. People died from the Astra Zenica vaccine too
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:02 PM
Aug 2021

Months ago. And yet doctors still recommend to get your shot.

Hell, kids died from the polio vaccine 70 yr ago. We still recommend that as well.

Like I said, nothing changes. Vaccines save millions of lives.

NickB79

(20,278 posts)
28. Exactly! The risk is THAT LOW!
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:12 PM
Aug 2021

And as I posted earlier, the risk of myocardia with mRNA vaccines is around 5 cases per 100,000. And that's not ever deaths, just inflammation. Deaths are around 1 in 500,000 to 1 in a million. This is consistent with many other vaccines we've been using for decades, which is why you've never had an adverse vaccination reaction. And that's why everyone should get their COVID vaccine.

People suck at gauging risk.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. What leads you to think your post is "too much" for anyone?
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:49 PM
Aug 2021

Criticism of your methods and narrative certainly doesn't imply as much, so what leads you assert as much?

edhopper

(37,171 posts)
35. One possible death out of
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 02:40 PM
Aug 2021

3 million vaccinations.
Too much of a risk for you?
Do you think there is less risk with COVID?
Incase you were wondering, the death rate in the US for people with COVID is almost 2%.

So is two out of hundred deaths better than 1 out of 3 million?

Such a quandary.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
39. When Hospitals begin denying healthcare to COVID19 patients because they are full of....
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 09:40 PM
Aug 2021

People suffering from the Pfizer vaccine I will start to worry about their effects. Till then, not so much.

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