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EXCELLENT news to start your Friday (Original Post) WilliamPitt Oct 2012 OP
Yes! n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #1
...for the Saturday morning crowd... n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #49
That is so wonderful. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #2
Yes, it is! Lucinda Oct 2012 #3
Wonderful!! Control-Z Oct 2012 #4
she holds th hope of the world proud patriot Oct 2012 #5
What beautiful news!! I'm so thankful She is in the UK & hope Her Family is safe also!! hue Oct 2012 #6
Political asylum hoosierlib Oct 2012 #7
fuck yeah! tk2kewl Oct 2012 #8
you are right--most excellent news niyad Oct 2012 #9
Boy she and Gabby Giffords could relate, eh? nolabear Oct 2012 #10
It is even more impressive with Giffords nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #29
For Malal sarge43 Oct 2012 #11
If she can write, she will be fine. mainer Oct 2012 #12
Huge thanks must go to the medical teams attending her! Amazing outcome for FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #13
But I thought hogwyld Oct 2012 #18
Don't forget the Pakistani teams nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #30
How is such a thing posible, what with all that socialized medicine? BlueStreak Oct 2012 #14
And what about those three children Astrad Oct 2012 #15
NATO isn't deliberately targeting children for murder magical thyme Oct 2012 #25
I can agree with your perspective Astrad Oct 2012 #37
why do you base your beliefs on my beliefs in hypothetical situations? magical thyme Oct 2012 #40
You're right Astrad Oct 2012 #43
I don't agree with what we are doing. But I don't know what else we can do at this point. magical thyme Oct 2012 #44
A very complex situation for certain Astrad Oct 2012 #45
I think there are other factors that people tend to forget, especially magical thyme Oct 2012 #48
^ GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #16
This *is* wonderful news. myrna minx Oct 2012 #17
The *^%#$@ Taliban has vowed to attack her again ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #19
You are femrap Oct 2012 #23
You are.... vduhr Oct 2012 #26
You are ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #32
... femrap Oct 2012 #50
K&R HopeHoops Oct 2012 #20
Excellent News leftynyc Oct 2012 #21
Where is her family. They should be moved. glinda Oct 2012 #39
We send femrap Oct 2012 #22
Very happy to hear this! hamsterjill Oct 2012 #24
Amazing! Rider3 Oct 2012 #27
GREAT news. If she can write, her language abilities are intact. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #28
Well that is good news AgingAmerican Oct 2012 #31
Yes, this is excellent news siligut Oct 2012 #33
So glad she is out of that country - TBF Oct 2012 #34
.... sellitman Oct 2012 #35
That IS excellent news! Chorophyll Oct 2012 #36
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #38
That is such good news! kentuck Oct 2012 #41
Wonderful! Mad_Dem_X Oct 2012 #42
Thank you for posting. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #46
Our next Aung San Suu Kyi, Ghandi, King upi402 Oct 2012 #47

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
11. For Malal
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:44 AM
Oct 2012

From the Qu'ran: Save those who believe and do good works, and oft remember God

And who defend themselves when unjustly treated. But they who treat them unjustly shall find out what a lot awaiteth them hereafter.

Be well.

mainer

(12,560 posts)
12. If she can write, she will be fine.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:45 AM
Oct 2012

She truly is going to be the world's spokeswoman for girls everywhere.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,611 posts)
13. Huge thanks must go to the medical teams attending her! Amazing outcome for
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:49 AM
Oct 2012

what started as a horrible evil attack on a school bus...targeting a girl to be killed for simply speaking her mind.

If only ALL the innocent victims of violence in that part of the world could receive such expert care as Malala has.

Thanks, WP, for a bright bit of news.

hogwyld

(3,436 posts)
18. But I thought
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:10 AM
Oct 2012

That the socialized British health care system was inferior to our for profit system. I'm really happy that she's doing better, and that this shines a light on what is possible when everyone has the proper care.

Astrad

(466 posts)
15. And what about those three children
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:03 AM
Oct 2012

killed in the NATO airstrike on Monday. How they doing?

It's fantastic she's showing signs of improvement. Just wish we were as outraged about the NATO crime as we are about hers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/18/world/asia/3-children-die-in-afghan-strike-by-nato-led-coalition.html?_r=0

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
25. NATO isn't deliberately targeting children for murder
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:57 AM
Oct 2012

I don't think anybody on this board lacks outrage about the illegal and immoral wars that W started in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the terrible loss of innocent life that has resulted from them.

President Obama didn't start those wars; he took them on his shoulders. He has done what he can to stabilize the countries that W destroyed, so that we can leave responsibly.

In an ideal world, 911 would have been a wake up call instead of a call to war.

In a fantasy world, we could just pack our bags and leave.

In the real world, the sorry fact is that the west started screwing over the ME a long, long time ago. Before President Obama was born. Before many of us were born. That is our inherited bad karma and you can't walk away from karma.

Unfortunately for us, W added exponentially to our bad karma. All we can do now is try to dial it back a day at a time.

Astrad

(466 posts)
37. I can agree with your perspective
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:47 PM
Oct 2012

as long as you can assure me that if your child was collateral damage in a drone strike to kill 'militants' you would continue to hold it.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
40. why do you base your beliefs on my beliefs in hypothetical situations?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 04:28 PM
Oct 2012

Sorry, but your statement makes no sense.

The loss of civilians in any war is tragic. Children all the more so. I don't think anybody on DU doesn't believe that.

Astrad

(466 posts)
43. You're right
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 05:04 PM
Oct 2012

I expressed that poorly. What I was trying to say is that we pursue a security policy that we know will collaterally kill children and other innocents from time to time. Would we agree with that policy if it were our own loved ones at risk? I tend to doubt it. We do it because they're faceless children in a far away land. They have few if any advocates here. I don't find the distinction between the Taliban's barbarism and our own as stark as many seem to. And at least there have been arrests in Pakistan of the suspected killers whereas no one will ever face any court for the killing of those three children.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
44. I don't agree with what we are doing. But I don't know what else we can do at this point.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oct 2012

And that is my point. I have vague memories of the disaster of leaving Vietnam. We have decades worth of horrible policies in the ME. It would be wonderful to erase all that, or at least to just walk away, but that would be incredibly irresponsible and long term make things worse.

I don't think anybody here 'agrees 'with our current security policies. I think we accept them because they are the best we can do at this point in time. I don't think President Obama or Vice President Biden are armchair warriors or kids playing at war, like the last administration was or Romney/Ryan would be. I think they inherited an incredibly complex mess. I think they are doing what they can to dial down the violence and establish some stability so we can leave Afghanistan with some ability to police itself and hopefully with some infrastructure repaired.

What we have done in the past 10 years is criminal. The unnecessary loss of life is heartbreaking. You started by responding that we don't get as passionate when our people have done that damage. But I haven't seen that here. There have been many cases in the past published here at DU when the US has flown children injured in our wars back to the US for advanced medical treatment.

Astrad

(466 posts)
45. A very complex situation for certain
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

and I feel confident that Obama navigates it with as much humanity and intelligence as possible. But I think the argument that the drone war is protecting us is, at best, unproven. It could be creating as many enemies as it is defeating. I have seen no convincing argument that is makes us safer, and believe me, I've looked. Perhaps Obama has different information on that, and if so I believe he should share it. If he doesn't, than I think the drone war is being conducted for political expediency rather than national security. It makes the Democratic party look strong on defense without obligating them to commit massive resources. And if he ended it, he would be instantly attacked for being weak and making us vulnerable to our 'enemies'. And he would probably lose the election. So yes, a very complicated and depressing situation.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
48. I think there are other factors that people tend to forget, especially
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 08:43 AM
Oct 2012

in the heat of the presidential race. The prez inherited an economy on the brink of catastrophe. A couple well-aimed and timed strikes could have collapsed it.

Forget about "looking weak" for the moment. If we walked away before Afghanistan and Iraq had decent security re-established, al Qaeda could take out our access to significant amounts of oil. They could bring the west -- especially the US -- to its knees in a heartbeat. Our society is so dependent on cheap oil it's terrifying and should never have been allowed to happen. Ending that dependency can't happen as quickly as people imagine. It's not just about cars.

Our agricultural system depends on it. I moved to a rural area 9 years ago and am now able to grow much of my own organic food supply in my yard and able to access even more locally. How many people in the US can say that? They think food prices are high now...cut off our oil and the supermarket shelves would decline precipitously and prices would skyrocket. We would have people starving.

Our health care system depends on it. The amount of energy burned by a hospital is staggering, both in running the hospital and in making and maintaining the instruments and supplies. We think health care is expensive now...cut off oil and prices would skyrocket even as supplies declined. All the ACA in the world wouldn't matter. Sick people would be doomed people.

Most of us still depend on it for heat. There are many, many people in the northern tiers (myself included) who would be at risk of freezing. I can heat 2 rooms with electricity, so as long as that continues I'd probably survive and luckily my state is already transitioning to renewables. To my north they get their electricity via a river. My immediate area just announced the first tidal system. So the transition is happening, but we were very, very vulnerable 4 years ago, and remain very vulnerable today.

So I tend to think that we have to keep al Qaeda at bay long enough to restructure so we don't need foreign oil. And I think that's what the Prez has been doing. Juggling a few dozen critical balls to keep the entire country from a disastrous collapse the could potentially kill millions, if not tens of millions.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
19. The *^%#$@ Taliban has vowed to attack her again
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:23 AM
Oct 2012

once she recovers. I hope she is able to stay safe from these animals.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
23. You are
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:45 AM
Oct 2012

giving 'animals' a bad name. The *&^*@ taliban are a sub-species of infected ooze.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. Excellent News
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:42 AM
Oct 2012

I'm hoping that once she recovers she can get asylum in Great Britain and get that education she yearns for. It's simply to dangerous for her to go back to the place where the taliban is still vowing to kill her.

SunSeeker

(58,340 posts)
28. GREAT news. If she can write, her language abilities are intact.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:25 AM
Oct 2012

When my mom had a massive stroke that affected the language center of her brain, even though she had the use of her left hand, she could not even type out her name, she just typed gibberish. She was only able to say a few words. It was devastating.

If Malala can already write, I am sure when they take that tube out of her throat, she will talk too. She may never be the same eloquent Malala, but it is so reassuring to know that her voice was not silenced.

It is good that she is in England getting treatment--she wouldn't stand a chance in Pakistan. I hope she fully recovers and then goes on to get a great education in England's finest Universities. Then, one day, return to her country to lead it out of its stone age.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
33. Yes, this is excellent news
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:51 AM
Oct 2012

Aside from a group of dull-minded, scared and weak penis-people, the whole world is pulling for this strong, brave girl.

TBF

(36,898 posts)
34. So glad she is out of that country -
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:08 PM
Oct 2012

women here should definitely be taking note and watching our right-wingers carefully. I think there are plenty here who would treat women just as badly given half a chance.

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