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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden: "We succeeded in what we set out to do in Afghanistan over a decade ago."
nuff said:
President Biden: "That was the real choice, between leaving and escalating. I was not going to extend this forever war. And I was not going to extend a forever exit."
President Biden: "We succeeded in what we set out to do in Afghanistan over a decade ago. Then we stayed for another decade. It was time to end this war."
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dalton99a
(81,426 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,328 posts)Thanks for the thread kpete.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Bin Laden is long-dead!
And according to British reporters about 12 years ago, the extra strategy of attempting to train Afghan soldiers to prevent a resurgence of the Taliban was going HORRIBLY! I don't recall the American media giving us that perspective!
I'll continue to trust Joe a lot more than other people in power in D.C., the freakin' sociopaths.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Why didn't we pull out during the Obama administration. That is one of the criticisms I have with that administration. I guess you would have to have another GOP administration without moving the needle to prove that the situation was untenable.
I for one am glad we are out.
former9thward
(31,961 posts)Biden wanted to wait during the bin Laden operation.
Biden, Jan. 27, 2012: The president, he went around the table with all the senior people, including the chiefs of staff, and he said, I have to make a decision. What is your opinion?
Every single person in that room hedged their bet except [then director of the Central Intelligence Agency] Leon Panetta. Leon said go. Everyone else said, 49, 51. It got to me, He said, Joe, what do you think? And I said, You know, I didnt know we had so many economists around the table. I said, We owe the man a direct answer. Mr. President, my suggestion is, dont go. We have to do two more things to see if hes there. He walked out and said, Ill give you my decision. The next morning he came down the diplomatic entrance
he turned to [national security adviser] Tom Donilon and said, Go.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/01/bidens-position-on-osama-bin-laden-raid/
Biden also opposed the Obama surge in Afghanistan
On a trip to Kabul in January 2009, shortly before he was sworn in as vice president, Biden warned Afghanistan's then-President Hamid Karzai at a dinner that he could lose Washington's support unless he started governing for all Afghans, hinting at corruption allegations targeting Karzai's brother.
But the clash with Karzai and the rest of a discomforting trip left Biden filled with a sense that Afghanistan's war was ensnaring Washington and could be unwinnable.
He returned to Washington with a stern warning to President-elect Barack Obama: Now is not the time to put more troops in Afghanistan.
Biden lost that policy dispute as Obama eventually ordered a surge of new troops into Afghanistan and extended the war through his term in office, which ended in 2017.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/biden-lost-faith-us-mission-afghanistan-over-decade-ago-2021-07-09/
Mr.Bill
(24,262 posts)Multiply that by 100 if Obama did the same thing.
soldierant
(6,836 posts)Exactly what I was thinking and couldn't figure out how to say.
Moebym
(989 posts)Red Mountain
(1,729 posts)and it's over.
Vultures are going to circle for a while, though.
$150-300 million a DAY for 20 years.
They're going to be hungry.