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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,887 posts)
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 07:27 AM Sep 2021

A Southwest passenger was filmed punching a flight attendant. She was charged with two felonies.

Just to be clear, the passenger, not the flight attendant, was charged with two felonies.

Morning Mix

A Southwest passenger was filmed punching a flight attendant. She was charged with two felonies.

By Julian Mark
Today at 6:36 a.m. EDT

As Southwest Flight 700 was making its final descent into San Diego International Airport in May, Vyvianna Quinonez did what airplane passengers are repeatedly told not to do: She pulled down her tray table and unbuckled her seat belt, prosecutors say.

After a flight attendant reminded Quinonez to stow away her tray table, buckle her seat belt and wear her mask properly, Quinonez became defiant, according to a federal complaint filed Wednesday. She pushed the flight attendant, grabbed her hair and repeatedly punched her in the face, the complaint says.

The flight attendant was taken to the hospital after landing. Three of her teeth were chipped, including two that had to be replaced by crowns, prosecutors say. Her left eye was bruised and swollen, and a cut under her eye required four stitches. On her right forearm was a finger-shaped bruise.

Quinonez, 28 at the time of incident, has now been charged with two federal felonies: assault resulting in serious injury and interference with a flight’s crew members and attendants. The first charge carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison, while the second is punishable by as many as 20.

Quinonez has been ordered to appear before a judge on Sept. 17, according to court documents. She initially told authorities she acted in self-defense, the complaint states.

{snip}

By Julian Mark
Julian Mark is a reporter on The Washington Post's Morning Mix team. Before joining The Post, he covered housing and policing for Mission Local in San Francisco. Twitter https://twitter.com/badjujusf
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A Southwest passenger was filmed punching a flight attendant. She was charged with two felonies. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 OP
You have to wonder WTF has happened to this country. Why on earth would anyone think of Vinca Sep 2021 #1
What happened to this country? TFG happened. George II Sep 2021 #8
VERY TRUE! I'd like to add here bluestarone Sep 2021 #12
My daughter is a nurse practitioner, works in an ER, has been kicked, punched, slapped, urine thrown Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #14
I work in a similar environment, but those things have never happened to me. Aristus Sep 2021 #18
Luckily in an ER there is staff around all the time, including big males who do fly to the rescue Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #21
Trump happened. Ushered-in by Sarandon, Turner, Moore, West and Stein. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #15
Could she really not have known it would be a far-right revolution? Hortensis Sep 2021 #20
She didn't care. She wanted revenge against the Democratic party (and candidate) at ANY cost! NurseJackie Sep 2021 #22
Oh, sure. Being wired to distrust and rejection of the liberal majority Hortensis Sep 2021 #23
The ends of that political horseshoe are almost touching... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #25
Yes. Some never cross, some occupy both ends, some are changeable. Hortensis Sep 2021 #26
The GOP has encouraged Americans to fight each over issues, even small ones. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #17
A terrorist by any other name . . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 #2
The self-entitlement of these people is one of them most depressing things to me. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #3
You're probably right Vogon_Glory Sep 2021 #4
Airtravel is much worse now than it was twenty or thirty years ago. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2021 #19
Chipped teeth? Bruising from a vise grip? What would this badass TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #5
Hopefully something that rhymed with... ret5hd Sep 2021 #6
Off to prison for this piece of shit malaise Sep 2021 #7
30 years, please. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #10
Link goes to paywall Mysterian Sep 2021 #9
Do you have a library card? mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #11
Stupid thug belongs in prison dalton99a Sep 2021 #13
Captains should start making an announcement at the beginning of each flight. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #16
Lock her up ... Lock her up ... Lock her up ... lpbk2713 Sep 2021 #24

Vinca

(54,002 posts)
1. You have to wonder WTF has happened to this country. Why on earth would anyone think of
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 07:30 AM
Sep 2021

punching a flight attendant in the first place? I'm glad the person will be facing a stiff jail sentence, but it won't take back the experience for that poor flight attendant.

bluestarone

(22,199 posts)
12. VERY TRUE! I'd like to add here
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:50 AM
Sep 2021

TFG, plus millions of RELIGIOUS FREAKS, QANON assholes, retired veteran terrorists, and NOW a Supreme Court!

Irish_Dem

(81,359 posts)
14. My daughter is a nurse practitioner, works in an ER, has been kicked, punched, slapped, urine thrown
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:58 AM
Sep 2021

at her, other objects thrown as well. She is small, only 4ft 10 inches and weighs 105 lbs.

She used to cover her bruises when I came to visit her so I wouldn't see them, as she knew I would be upset.

All the ER staff have experienced the same thing. This is done by patients and their families who voluntarily come to the hospital seeking treatment.

Her friends at work do not like working in such a hostile and dangerous work environment. The hospital has given the staff training in how to handle dangerous patients, but probably the airlines are not yet at that point with flight crew members.

My daughter just got a promotion and is going to work in a hopefully quieter department in the hospital.

So it is not just flight attendants, these people are doing the same thing to healthcare staff and are now starting on teachers.

Back in the day all of these professionals were treated with respect. Not now.

Aristus

(72,206 posts)
18. I work in a similar environment, but those things have never happened to me.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:11 AM
Sep 2021

I'm 52, 5'10", 250lbs, and a guy. Patients don't do to me what they feel perfectly comfortable doing to your poor daughter (who has my immense respect, by the way), because people who do those things are cowards. Although, like your daughter, I took an oath to do no harm, patients do not assault me because I look like I could fuck their shit up for them if I felt like it.

TFG gave so much encouragement to ugly, nasty, brutish bullies like himself, it's going to take decades to get them to crawl back under their rocks where they belong.

Irish_Dem

(81,359 posts)
21. Luckily in an ER there is staff around all the time, including big males who do fly to the rescue
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:37 AM
Sep 2021

when the tiny staff are getting knocked around.

I know, what kind of person attacks nurses, small ones.
What cowards yes.

When I found out she was hiding her bruises from me, I told her it is like a toxic marriage, she needs to get out of there.

It is interesting how people can become desensitized to the violence, my daughter and her colleagues feel sorry for the med/surg floor staff. A lone nurse going into a patient's room is a sitting duck. At least in the ER the staff has a good chance of surviving.

Yes The orange f-wad gave license for people to act out in uncivil and violent ways. The social contract seems to be gone now. We used to respect professionals who were helping us.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Trump happened. Ushered-in by Sarandon, Turner, Moore, West and Stein.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:05 AM
Sep 2021

Sarandon LOVES the Trump Revolution. It's what Sarandon wanted. Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is... at that time she could barely contain her excitement at the horrors that await us. She must be absolutely ORGASMIC now!



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Could she really not have known it would be a far-right revolution?
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:29 AM
Sep 2021

That the RW's was far, far more powerful and advanced than the left's?

Or was she aware and preferred that possibility to no revolution at all? That is the case for some, and it's common for FW and RW extremists to ally against the mainstream majorities that block them.

Germany's socialist and fascist revolutionaries coming together in the far-right National Socialist German Workers' Party to seize power is only one of many examples. Not all knew that's what they were doing, of course, although when Hitler had the socialist leaders executed and purged maybe it was a clue. For some anyway.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. She didn't care. She wanted revenge against the Democratic party (and candidate) at ANY cost!
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:45 AM
Sep 2021
Could she really not have known it would be a far-right revolution?
Of course she knew. It's part of the BURN IT DOWN plan that was always wanted by folks and groups like: "Our Revolution" and "Brand New Congress" and "Justice Democrats" (a Cenk Uygur/TYT production).

Sarandon didn't care one iota about the most vulnerable among us. She's FILTHY RICH! She'd NEVER have to worry about any of the horrors that the "common folk" endure. She can afford the luxury of watching a RW "revolution" unfold. (I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that she's someone who actually BENEFITED from it as well.)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Oh, sure. Being wired to distrust and rejection of the liberal majority
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:10 PM
Sep 2021

is just something most hanging on the left fringe are prone to, just as most among the far right are wired to intractable distrust and rejection of other races. Traits baked into the types.

As for the rest, I really don't know how she thinks. Sure, she may be perfectly aware of what she's doing. Or not. We know what these people say about why they do what they do. Doesn't mean she really knows why or that she even witnessed the high-speed train crash in her own head between her claimed beliefs and her actions. She may have been out to lunch at the time.

But what's the real difference between a LWer who throws progressivism to the far right to destroy, all the while remaining a True Believer in progressive ideals, and a RWer who determinedly spreads deadly disease while still seeing herself as heroically "pro life"? It's the similarities, including who they're both opposing, that are overwhelming.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. The ends of that political horseshoe are almost touching...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 12:53 PM
Sep 2021

... the most extreme individuals could reach across and touch each other and shake hands if they wanted.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Yes. Some never cross, some occupy both ends, some are changeable.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 01:41 PM
Sep 2021

What I don't understand is why so many decent and sincere people didn't clue in that many of the more aggressively hostile and/or dishonest types among the LW and RW populist movements of 2016, and still now in 2021, had and have so much in common.

Irish_Dem

(81,359 posts)
17. The GOP has encouraged Americans to fight each over issues, even small ones.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:07 AM
Sep 2021

The GOP goal is division, civil war, chaos.

hlthe2b

(114,004 posts)
3. The self-entitlement of these people is one of them most depressing things to me.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 07:40 AM
Sep 2021

It is hard not to place some of the blame on Trumpism--given he gave overt permission for some of the worst behavior our society can express.

But, I'm sure it goes further than that.

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
4. You're probably right
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 07:57 AM
Sep 2021

I believe that Trumpism green-lighted a lot of this behavior, but it was already there and lurking just below the surface.

Perhaps (or perhaps not) because I come from an earlier generation, I grew up with the idea that commercial airliners could be dangerous places. You could kill or injure yourself or others if you were rolling around loose in the cabin and if you needed to get out of the cabin in case of a hard landing, you made sure you were ready to do so. You buckled up and you did what the aircrew told you.

You didn’t have to like it, you were free to grumble sotto-voce that it was chicken (scratch), but you did it anyway.

A lot of today’s air travelers act like they were riding a bus. Alas, unlike bus drivers, and unlike railroad conductors in days of yore, captains and crew don’t have the option of kicking these people’s sorry backsides off at the side of the road or some lonely bit of railroad track out in the middle of nowhere.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
19. Airtravel is much worse now than it was twenty or thirty years ago.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:15 AM
Sep 2021

And I'm not talking about traveler behavior; I'm talking about the process and the accommodations. The endless security lines with callous, impolite TSA agents barking orders at you and routing through your shit; the airlines nickle-and-diming you for pretty much anything (one charged me an additional carry-on fee for my CPAP, a medical device); the airplanes themselves being designed to cram as many people inside as possible, irrespective of passenger comfort.

The list goes on.

Yes, people are ultimately responsible for their own actions, but shit... it's like the entire airline industry is challenging people to throw down.

ret5hd

(22,504 posts)
6. Hopefully something that rhymed with...
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:09 AM
Sep 2021

“cardiac arrest” or “stroke” or “apoplexia”.

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,887 posts)
11. Do you have a library card?
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 09:29 AM
Sep 2021

Your public library probably subscribes to the Washington Post online, as well as a whole bunch of other newspapers.

Irish_Dem

(81,359 posts)
16. Captains should start making an announcement at the beginning of each flight.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:05 AM
Sep 2021

1. Telling passengers that appropriate behavior is expected at all times.

2. The first hint of violence he will land his plane at the nearest airport and the passengers can make other travel arrangements.

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