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Hekate

(100,133 posts)
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 01:29 AM Sep 2021

How many tried to watch Frontline about America 20 years after 9-11 & just couldn't? Edit Wednesday

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We had to turn it off after 20 minutes — not PBS’s fault.

The faces alone brought back the rage. My husband said of Dubya: “I forgot how stupid he looked!” Rumsfeld came on, and I said, “Rot in hell, you evil bastard!” A description of Cheney’s years-long paranoia, decades of a dark, dark worldview, brought similar remarks. Gitmo, fucking Gitmo.

What did we do to ourselves? Somewhere in the bowels of Hell, bin Laden is mocking Rumsfeld. I wish Dick Cheney was with them.




ON EDIT: The program after Rachel on Wednesday, Remembrance Box I think it’s called, is very very good. Just the ordinary people who lived through it, then and now.



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LeftInTX

(34,310 posts)
1. I watched Bush's War (aired 2008) and Obama's War
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 01:46 AM
Sep 2021

Obama's War was kinda lame and was about Afghanistan. It did not hold my interest.

But then, ISIS came along and they did another episode. I believe it was called Rise of ISIS and there was another one called Losing Iraq. Bush's War, Rise of ISIS and Losing Iraq were well done. Both were critical of both administrations and I learned alot.

But a "remembrance" piece from Frontline...I don't know...Unless there is something to be learned from watching it, I probably can't get excited about it.
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I would rather watch a remembrance piece on CNN...mainly because..just because..can't say why...Frontline has it's own style and CNN has their own style. (I don't have cable anymore)

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
2. Every so often I learn something new about the conduct of those wars...
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 02:09 AM
Sep 2021

And it’s either confirmatory or shocking all over again.

I protested so hard in those early years, I clung so hard to my belief in my country, and after an 8-year reprieve with Obama (who was never meant to be Jesus, but did the best he could given the GOP) , we got effing Trump. Trump broke something in me.

calimary

(90,039 posts)
3. I know how you feel, Hekate.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 02:48 AM
Sep 2021

I can't bear to watch any of the 9/11 stuff either. Just not in the mood for bad reminders.

calimary

(90,039 posts)
9. And it's not that I dismiss it. I've seen it - both as it was happening
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 07:26 PM
Sep 2021

and in all the non-stop coverage and numerous still shots and video clips being shown again and again.

Our neighbor freaked out. She’d take one of those exact flights one day earlier, as part of her job with the Latin Grammys. She was absolutely freaked. We all got the call from school to come pick the kids up because the school was closed for the day. I volunteered to drive us up. She didn’t argue. She was in NO condition to drive, and I was happy to.

And as soon as I could, I glued myself to the TV coverage for the rest of the day.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
8. You just gave
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 04:32 AM
Sep 2021

An apt description of how I feel. To think so many believe in Trump and still swallow the lies.

It has turned family members against each other because the loud mouth, lying group are keeping it going.

orleans

(36,927 posts)
5. i remember watching it -- for days upon days probably
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 03:21 AM
Sep 2021

i remember that documentary that was being filmed in one of the towers--there were two guys, possibly french? that were filming and when that aired you could hear the sound of bodies falling outside the lobby the crew and firefighters were standing in.

i saw quite enough. heard quite enough.

i don't think i can handle seeing and hearing those horrendous moments again

ShazzieB

(22,599 posts)
6. There's a remembrance piece on MSNBC tomorrow night.
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 03:25 AM
Sep 2021

Right after Rachel. It sounds like it's about ordinary people recalling their personal experiences of 9/11, whether they were there in NYC or watching from afar. Sounds a lot more watchable than a docu about Dubya and co. Even then, I don't know if I'll watch or not. Just not sure if I'm ready to relive that.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
14. I watched that tonight (Wed,) and it was actually very good. Just the people who lived thru it.
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:48 AM
Sep 2021

Raine

(31,179 posts)
7. I started reading a couple articles about family members who lost
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 04:27 AM
Sep 2021

father's, mother's, brothers, sisters etc on that day. I ended up in tears and couldn't finish reading, it's still just so awful.
💔

a kennedy

(35,996 posts)
10. I watched the CNN special, two French film makers and a NYFD fireman were doing a film
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 08:34 PM
Sep 2021

of a “rookie” Fireman it started back in like May or some month earlier then September. They followed all his moves, and his day to day life and it was pretty mundane for the rookie, all he kept saying was I want some real action, not real action where people died or anything, just something more then cars on fire, and small fires. THEN they saw the first plane hit Tower One. It was heart breaking, and it was on from then. Really well done, a completely different perspective, I’m sure you can find it somewhere and if you can please watch it.

Raine

(31,179 posts)
11. I saw that film on one the anniversaries and I've never forgotten it is
Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:50 PM
Sep 2021

one of those things that always stays with you.

PlanetBev

(4,412 posts)
12. I haven't had the guts to watch it, so far
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 12:01 AM
Sep 2021

Im afraid I’ll hurl a vase or something at the TV. I’m so pissed off right now that even my pissed off is pissed off.

 

tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
13. Having lived through it and seeing how absolutely NOTHING has changed
Thu Sep 9, 2021, 01:09 AM
Sep 2021

and not one of W's administration suffered anything for it. Pass.

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