Who the fuck cares about Britney Spears?!?!?!

[Mossfern]

Just ranting at my husband who justified it because "It's on the news."
Damn! Even in my household.

Maybe I drank too much wine too quickly - but really.
Who the fuck cares about Britney Spears?

BTW, I'm usually more demure in my language, but really???

[boston bean]

1. I do. What was done to her was a travesty of justice.

[happybird]

8. +1

[luv2fly]

33. +2

[Treefrog]

42. Damn right.

[Niagara]

56. +1000

[LakeArenal]

65. Serious injustice.

[NurseJackie]

71. Agreed.

[Corgigal]

80. 6 shows a week in Vegas,

but not mentally competent to make any decisions,

Get out of here, creepy.

[Demovictory9]

88. Agreed and father became millionaire sucking up those trustee fees

[Demsrule86]

101. I am sure he was stealing from her...let's hope he goes directly to jail.

[obamanut2012]

93. This!

[steve2470]

98. agreed nt

[wellst0nev0ter]

128. Words out of my mouth

[spanone]

2. CNN

[Skittles]

3. ugly sentiment

you don't have to care, no one is telling you to care

those of us who have family members with mental health issues may care about how she has been treated (and I have never been a fan)

[CatWoman]

83. Britney's dad "Texased" her

[Demsrule86]

102. My daughter has mental health issues... so there is that. Also, I think what he did was horrifying..

he basically stole her life she lived like a slave to him.

[Skittles]

121. hard to judge from the outside

but for sure Britney is not happy with the arrangement and it seems that for a long time, her input just was not considered at all

[Demsrule86]

124. She was a slave and I read about the meds she was given, I have some experience with this,

that medicine is not appropriate for what she has. Dear old Dad couldn't get rid of the guardianship fast enough when he realized the new lawyer was going to audit his handling of her money. I expect he was stealing her money and lived very well off her hard work...and the woman who helped him is in trouble too I expect. I hope they both go to jail. Brittany wasn't even allowed to remove an IUD. She is a grown woman and should choose how she lives her life. I have never heard of any man living under this sort of thing...shades of when the Kennedy daughter was given a lobotomy because she was allegedly promiscuous.

[Mossfern]

4. If the issue were made in a larger context, maybe

but I just see this as sensationalism. How many non celebrities are in the same boat? Do you think that this coverage will change anything for them - I don't see this as the purpose.

[Deuxcents]

9. Maybe the purpose

Is right in front of us. If it were Sally Jones no one would pay attention but Ms Spears is an international woman fighting for her rights. This brings attention to the issue n we should care about her and all the Sally Jones we don’t hear about. Being subservient while others take her earnings is wrong and she wants her life back. I am not a fan of her music but I’m sympathetic.

[lagomorph777]

105. The issue is in a larger context. She was victim to a classic ploy used to control women.

She is a very visible example of a wider problem.

[demmiblue]

5. I do.

Guardianship issues, especially as they relate to women, need to be examined. I'm glad the media is giving this coverage.

[JennyMominFL]

6. Because this has far reaching effects for others

This effects people with mental health issues and women in general. Do you think a man would have experienced this? Where was Charlie Sheen’s conservatorship? Why do conservators ships disproportionally effect women?

[Mossfern]

10. Maybe I'm just bein hysterical

I'm well acquainted with having a close relationship with a person with mental health issues - who happened to be a male. No conservatorship for him. I understand the issue, but why does coverage of this only become important because it involves a celebrity?

[JennyMominFL]

20. I get what you are saying

I think a lot of us were just unaware of these issues until it involved someone famous.

[Mossfern]

24. Thank you

I care about Sally Jones.
Let's see if this changes any policies or procedures.

[Skittles]

123. because that is the nature of news?

[vanlassie]

127. Maybe you will find this podcast enlightening

https://overcast.fm/+ty7XcFnPQ

[XanaDUer2]

14. or Kanye West's.

if a woman said or acted like him, she'd be raked over the coals

[Treefrog]

39. Yup.

[gldstwmn]

43. What Charlie did was worse.

He knowingly infected people with HIV.

[Treefrog]

74. Hell, I forgot about him.

So true.

And Kanye? Yikes.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

7. I do.

[Agschmid]

11. I do.

[peacefreak2.0]

12. Guardianship can be a slippery slope

when there is no oversight over the guardian. Someone could come in and strip you of your possessions, home and even keep you away from family members. It is a huge and lucrative business.

[Fullduplexxx]

13. I find myself saying that a lot about a lot of things that are posted

[bluestarone]

15. I DO!

[Sherman A1]

16. My guess is that you apparently do so

at least enough to create a thread about her. If you don't like the news coverage change the channel or turn it off.

[Mossfern]

25. Don't want to get into a brawl

over the remote - therefore the rant here.

[Treefrog]

44. You can't go into another room?

Pick up a book?

[Mossfern]

53. Why should I leave the room?

Because I'm a woman?

[Treefrog]

62. Huh?

I’m a woman and I live with a woman.

I’m perfectly capable of leaving the room if I don’t want to watch what she’s watching. And vice versa.

[Treefrog]

82. How would I know you're a woman anyway?

[ellie]

17. I care

She had her reproductive rights taken away from her. It was disgusting.

[gldstwmn]

78. She was also forcibly drugged

and her children were used as pawns against her. It sounds a lot like human trafficking.

[Demsrule86]

103. Let me tell you...drugs for mental illness if they are misused and since Lithium was one of the

drugs clearly Daddy found a compliant doctor (totally rarely rarely used these days) can cause all sorts of miserable side effects which probably was his goal.

[ShazamIam]

18. I think it is because this is a universal problem of women being controlled by fathers, husbands,

sons and other male relatives and of course powerful males in government and our Judicial system that allows that kind of abuse.

Yes, what happened to Brittany can happen to men, but can you name any messed up young men stars who were allowed to be controlled this way?

edits, add: is, move text to add, undo cap F.

[maxsolomon]

22. When the full story is told, it won't just be men that exploited her.

The conservatorship was managed day-to-day by a woman, IIRC.

[Demsrule86]

104. I hope both her sperm donor and the woman involved go to jail.

[maxsolomon]

111. Sperm Donor?

You mean Kevin Federline? I wasn't aware he was involved in the Conservatorship.

[Demsrule86]

125. I meant her father...not acting like a father.

[ornotna]

19. Lots of people do

Don't get them started!

[Treefrog]

46. Nice.

[ornotna]

70. Thanks!

[maxsolomon]

21. I care. What happened to her was outrageous.

and I'm not particularly a fan of jailbait pop. I do respect her talent.

Her entire life has been controlled by others for their profit. It's hard to see the Conservatorship as anything other than exploitation. She had a nervous breakdown because the Paparazzi were hounding her relentlessly; she wasn't "crazy". The details of the control exercised over her life are mortifying. This is an adult woman with children.

I want everyone to be free.

[Crunchy Frog]

23. I care about the principles involved in this case.

Maybe other people aren't bothered when adult women are completely robbed of their autonomy?

Maybe you don't care about Texas either?

[Mossfern]

27. Yes, I do care about Texas

That was a tremendous leap. The Texas issue isn't based on celebrity.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

32. So a celebrity is being exploited and oppressed, it doesn't matter?

[Mossfern]

36. I feel the reason she's supported by many people

is because of her celebrity. They wouldn't give a fig (sobered up now) if it were about Sally Jones. And I don't think that most people watching network news see this as a larger issue. It's all about Britney for them.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

37. So your issue is about who supports Britney Spears, and why?

[Mossfern]

41. No

My issue is that *the* issue is only being addressed because of her celebrity.
When Sally Jones gets justice, I'll shut up.

I think you're not getting my point.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

48. Yeah I guess if you see this happening to her and then not doing anything about it for people who

aren't celebrities, then yeah, seems like the coverage is pretty worthless.

[Treefrog]

84. Well done.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

85. This shit's too weird for a Wednesday.

[Treefrog]

86. Lol!

I’ve had a weird Wednesday anyway. You just made me laugh, and I needed it!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

87. I hear you! This week has been something else.

[Crunchy Frog]

60. Texas is still about women's autonomy.

They took away Britney's reproductive choice, too.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

26. Plenty do. Her struggle has raised the awareness of just how many people are in the same bind.

[lame54]

28. I do - I hope the conservatorship gets dropped

[TallMike]

29. Throw out the TV.

Put on some music (probably NOT Ms. Spears), and open another bottle girl. You got this!

[Mossfern]

30. Django Reinhardt

Thanks for the advice.

[XanaDUer2]

35. love him nt

[USALiberal]

31. Just ignore it. Nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

34. Well you clearly so since you decided to make it a topic.

You can't practice your own self censorship and learn how to ignore what doesn't interest you? Most of the rest of us can.

[Treefrog]

38. Because this would never have happened to a man.

R. Kelly?

I don’t think Britney was raping anyone.

[gldstwmn]

40. Would they have done it to a man?

[Mossfern]

45. Who is "they?"

I would have to do the research to answer you honestly.

[gldstwmn]

49. The collective they.

Name a famous man forced into conservatorship.

[Mossfern]

50. That's exactly my point!

Why does someone have to be famous to care about them?

[gldstwmn]

55. It wasn't my point.

Name any man forced into a conservatorship and forced to enrich others while amassing a personal net worth of $60 million dollars.

[Treefrog]

72. Thank you.

This thread is so revealing.

[gldstwmn]

79. Agree.

[Demsrule86]

106. No court would have gone along with it if she was a man...did you know her stupid father claimed

Dementia and she was having SEX...OMG. One of the Kennedy girls was given a lobotomy, and this is not that different. Hopefully, no permanent damage has been done.

[ZonkerHarris]

47. any other people with mental health issues you want to mock today?

thread trashed

[Mossfern]

58. I did not mock Britney

I mocked people who care about people because of their celebrity.

[Treefrog]

63. Then you're missing the point,

that many are trying to make to you on this thread.

[ZonkerHarris]

77. If that's what you think you did then explaining it to you will make no difference.

[obamanut2012]

94. Yeah, you did mock her and her decades-long abuse

Own up and take responsibility for it.

[bigtree]

51. I care.

...

[pansypoo53219]

52. i wanna delete her, bruce + kardashians + most teevee shit from my brain.

[rockodman]

54. ?

What is wrong with you...

[Mossfern]

61. Nothing

I care about the issue, but I get annoyed that issues that have been going on for such a long time are only mentioned in a sensational way when a celebrity is involved, ignoring the fact that other (non celebrities) have been historically suffering from such oppression.

Most people will watch and gawk at the news, say "how horrible" for whatever celebrity, forgetting that there are so many other people with the same issue. And then.....and then.... they'll do absolutely nothing about it, but feel righteous because they said "how horrible."

[Treefrog]

64. You've moved the goalposts in this thread lol.

I can see why.

[Mossfern]

91. Drunk vs Sober

I did explain that in my OP.
Rage at my clueless spouse I brought here (sorry about that).

Can't stand the culture of celebrity and arm chair warriors who don't get off their tushes to actually do anything.
Actually my mother did something similar to my sister in her will - she gave control of my sister's share of her Trust to my brother because my mom didn't think that my sister was capable of managing it - the next in line for *her* trust was me - the youngest.
I know it's small potatoes compared to Britney, but the concept is the same.

After months of family fights, my sister got control of her share, but so much money was wasted on attorney fees.

[obamanut2012]

95. Moving those goalposts so far

Must have hurt your back.

Make some tea and have a rest!

[Mossfern]

115. The goal posts weren't moved

I still feel the same way.
I've just explained my rage about the culture of celebrity.
When policies and practices are changed for everyone dealing with this, I'll offer my apologies to all here who were offended by my OP.


My back is strong and fine - thank you for your concern.

[AZProgressive]

57. I care because I don't think she should lose her rights

Over mild mental health issues in the past.

[Fiendish Thingy]

59. Not a fan of her music, but I care about her situation and the issue of abusive conservators. Nt

[JI7]

66. I care about her. Everyone that has worked with her or met her says

she is one of the kindest and sweetest people they met. People in the lgbtq community that worked with her love her.

She was exploited when she was still a teenager with all the talk about her being a virgin and waiting until she becomes "legal" and other bs.

There are the larger legal issues but I feel a lot of sympathy for her just as the person she is.

[LeftInTX]

109. Good to hear. She personally seemed like a nice person

My preteen daughter was a fan years ago. ("Oops! I Did it Again" etc)
Even when Britney started having issues around 2004, she did not seem mean spirited

[harumph]

67. I agree. Couldn't give a shit.

She'll never have to be homeless or be without medical care. Sorry, but most people
have it a lot worse (at least materially). Our world is literally dying from climate change
and our country under threat from authoritarians. I don't hate Britney. I don't know Britney - and
she is completely outside the compass of my concern. She is a distraction that the media pushes.
There is so much tragedy - real fucking tragedy that we face or will soon face - that I won't
get sucked into that irrelevant shit.

[obamanut2012]

96. JFC

What happened to you to make you lack compassion for what's happened to Spears?!

[LakeArenal]

68. I guess you can see how many care about her.

It’s kinda feels like a judgement that people only care when it’s a celebrity.

Most people are not that shallow. Especially considering no one has claimed to particularly like her work.

[Treefrog]

76. Spot on.

I’ve never listened to her music except inadvertently.

How many male stars could we name that could have perhaps benefited from a guardianship?

[obamanut2012]

97. Same

Have disliked her music always, although she does what she does very, very well.

I have felt bad for her since she was a kid, and especially the last couple decades.

Did Charlie Sheen have a conservatorship? Kanye? Nope.

Britney was Yellow Wallpapered, and her sweat made her fucking father a multi-millionaire.

[LeftInTX]

122. She appeals to a certain age group: Preteens

She was in the Mickey Mouse Club before she started a solo career. Since most people on DU are gen-x and boomers, there aren't going to be too many on here who were big Britany fans.

My daughter liked her when she was between 10 and 12. My daughter was born in 1990

[Iggo]

69. Leave Britney alone.

[ornotna]

75. Now you've done it

[Luciferous]

73. I think people were shocked by the level of control her father

had over her life.

[Xolodno]

81. I don't give a rats ass about her...

...with that said.

I do wonder what kind of precedent this will create. Her father may certainly have been overbearing on the conservatorship and should probably be reviewed. But out of the blue when I was bored, I clicked on an article about it. She wants to end it without a mental health evaluation and have a choice on taking her meds. That's really bad voodoo.

We already know how bad she can spiral out of control and we will see it again if there are no guardrails...or worse. Her father did a 180 I've read, probably to force an evaluation by the courts. That tells me something. And yes, maybe he should no longer be in charge, but, is she capable? A professional needs to answer that.

As for precedent, how this turns out in the end will effect all future judgements due to the high profile....and it will probably not be the right one.

[LeftInTX]

90. I saw pictures of her recently. She does not look very good

She seems to have trouble putting her eye makeup on the right way and her hair is weird...stuff like that.....

It makes me worry about her future. I personally liked her and my daughter bought her CDs back in the way.
OTOH, her dad has been in charge for 13 years and it would have been nice if there had been a compromise 5 years ago or so.

[Demsrule86]

107. They had her drugged up...now she has an attorney and some autonomy, I expect she will look and

feel better. I have to wonder if their end game was suicide...the drugs she was given and the way she was treated were awful. She was practically worked to death by her so-called father.

[Celerity]

89. de rec nt

[obamanut2012]

92. I care about how women and the mentally ill are discrimated against and mistreated

And how they are often financially and emotionally abused, and given no body autonomy. It is 2021 and Spears is being "Yellow Wallpapered."

It is pretty gross you don't.

Wow.

[Demsrule86]

108. I agree completely.

[alphafemale]

99. I care about her.

She was used and exploited by her parents.

Her father tried to declare her incompetent to control her money.

[Demsrule86]

100. I care. It is typical of how women are treated...you ever heard of a guy having this done to him?

I hope Daddy dearest and the so-called manager rot in prison.

[scarytomcat]

110. If she is an adult let her make her own mistakes

and spend her own money like the rest of us.

[brooklynite]

112. And if we stop talking about Britney, there'll be more time to talk about the British Royals!

That said, there are legal issues on conservatorship that the Spears case brings up.

[Demsrule86]

126. Her father said she suffered from Dementia...and I can only conclude the doctors were paid off...

This is about rights for women and for those who suffer from mental illness.

[USALiberal]

113. This post didn't go well for you. Nt

[Mossfern]

117. I think I got a damn good return

on one drunken post.

[LanternWaste]

118. Insightful and relevant. As always.

You shine out like a shaft of gold when all around it is dark.

[USALiberal]

119. Thanks!!

[treestar]

120. this is just gloating

if we are to care about Britney, that's fine, but do we have to be asses to other DUers?

[Phentex]

114. I'll never forget when CNN ran a story about her...

as a main news story. It was not part of an entertainment segment and it was so strange to us as we were watching. It was a loooooong time ago and we were just stunned that this was "news".

Now it's all burred together on every channel. Now we get to see an interview with who is on the Bachelor right up there with soldiers leaving Afghanistan.

Do I care about her as a person? Yes. Should she be on the news? Nah.

I guess she falls in the showbiz across media rule here on DU.

[jcgoldie]

116. no such thing

...as too much wine too quickly...