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Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:24 PM

This will be a rant. No, I really mean it---THIS WILL BE A GODDAM R.A.N.T!

To all of the knuckle-dragging white supremacist assholes who are all het up about the removal of the Bob Lee on a horsey statue from its pedestal in Richmond, Virginia, get used to feeling like you feel today! We, the people---of ALL colors---have decided that there is no place in our nation for monuments that honor racist TRAITORS!

Yes, I called your idol a "traitor" because that is exactly what he was. He took up arms against the nation he had sworn an oath to serve and defend. By rights, the sonofabitch should have been HUNG!

It is my understanding that the statue will be cut into three pieces and stored until it can be decided what should be done with it. I have two suggestions. I'll tell you the one that does not require a LOT of lubricant.

The statue is, I believe, brass. It should be sold for scrap and the proceeds divided equally between Historic Black Colleges and Black Lives Matter.

So, if any of you Kluxer wannabes is already upset with me, let me double down: when y'all get home this evening, I hope your Mamas run out from under the porch and bite your pasty white asses!

Punks!

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Reply This will be a rant. No, I really mean it---THIS WILL BE A GODDAM R.A.N.T! (Original post)
Atticus Sep 2021 OP
hlthe2b Sep 2021 #1
niyad Sep 2021 #15
hlthe2b Sep 2021 #20
3catwoman3 Sep 2021 #24
ananda Sep 2021 #2
Resistance1 Sep 2021 #3
PirateRo Sep 2021 #4
keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #5
Wolf Frankula Sep 2021 #10
Caliman73 Sep 2021 #28
hydrolastic Sep 2021 #6
panader0 Sep 2021 #7
Atticus Sep 2021 #8
panader0 Sep 2021 #9
KT2000 Sep 2021 #11
Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #12
jeffreyi Sep 2021 #14
Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #16
jeffreyi Sep 2021 #27
Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #30
Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #13
spooky3 Sep 2021 #21
The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #17
calimary Sep 2021 #18
Blue Owl Sep 2021 #19
mike507 Sep 2021 #22
spanone Sep 2021 #23
FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #25
cadoman Sep 2021 #26
Retired Engineer Bob Sep 2021 #29

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:36 PM

1. Glad it is gone. Have no problem with it being displayed at a civil war museum or battlefield

AS long as there is context and not a glorification of the confederate (lost) "cause."

In all honesty, the only thing that bothers me a bit about removal is not the statue itself being gone, but that the artistic talent of the last century that went into making these bronze statues is pretty rare nowadays. So if something replaces it, as it should, I hope they can find someone with the talent to create something appropriate. If you saw the recent statue of Princess Di unveiled a couple of months ago, it was monstrous. (Sorry, Prince Harry and William, but it really is atrocious).

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:09 PM

15. What do you think of the monument to Women's Suffrage pioneers Stanton, Anthony

and Truth in Central Park, NYC? It is bronze.

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Response to niyad (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:50 PM

20. Well, I've never seen it. I linked this photo...




I like it--at least from the photo.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:21 PM

24. The Princess Di statue is hideous.

Very disappointing.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:37 PM

2. Righteous!

There oughta be a song and a protest to go with it.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:38 PM

3. What he said!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:38 PM

4. Right with you, brother /nt

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:45 PM

5. A loyal right winger claimed that REL did not betray his oath to his country because he resigned his

A loyal right winger claimed that REL did not betray his oath to his country because he resigned his commission.

An excuse for a traitor.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:45 PM

10. Treason consists of making war against the United States, or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.

If commanding an army in the field against the United States is not 'making war' there is no such thing.

Wolf

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 11:48 AM

28. Right wingers are not known for their towering intellect or logic.

There are ONLY two ways to see the Confederacy and anyone who partook in the war on that side.

1. They were insurrectionists, rebels and traitors.
2. If we recognize the secession, they were a hostile foreign power (just like Japan and Germany), that made war against the United States.

If it is choice #1, we don't glorify traitors.

If it is choice #2 We have no statues honoring Hitler, Rommel, Hirohito, or Tojo in the US.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 07:54 PM

6. scrap metal and money is good, But....

Give it to artist's to make way better castings.. It is bronze probably and bronze would be expensive to buy for other artists.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:08 PM

7. The statue would be worth more sold to some loyal confederate than scraped for brass.

Then donate the monies as you said.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:11 PM

8. I understand, but I sorta think both of the organizations I named would rather see

that puppy melted down.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:30 PM

9. True

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Response to panader0 (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:45 PM

11. A loyal confederate

would buy land in the center of town and put the statue back up.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:46 PM

12. Still say they should have scrapped Lee's ass and saved Traveler. Horse was not a traitor. Good boy.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #12)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:02 PM

14. Yes, he was, and Traveler also had an interesting, long life.

Lee's army harassed and imprisoned free black people encountered on their march north into Pennsylvania. Pretty awful. Lee was really sick at Gettysburg, maybe one reason for some bad decisions made there.

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Response to jeffreyi (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:16 PM

16. Beautiful horse, although I have not seen actual photos. What was Lee's illness at that time?

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 11:25 AM

27. Possible heart attack, apparent dysentery...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1542842/

And others, look up Lee's health at Gettysburg.

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Response to jeffreyi (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 07:12 PM

30. Awesome. Thanks

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:51 PM

13. Mary Trump said much the same thing in her new book

Back in the day, traitors were hanged, but instead they named a university after him.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:08 PM

21. They have at least renamed a high school

To Washington-Liberty.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:16 PM

17. I have used the treason argument for a while.

It is stunning how fast it shuts up right wing loons. They just don't know what to say.
I love point out the treason of the south at my local VFW. Now that is just plain fun.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:37 PM

18. Works for me!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:40 PM

19. Right on!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:19 PM

22. Actually, I think you are being quite restrained d. Well stated.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:20 PM

23. K&R

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:22 PM

25. Melt it down, commission a statue of Martin Luther King using the metal

and then put it back on the pedestal.

Think of the reaction . . .

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:36 PM

26. I'm not upset about it but part of making progress is learning from mistakes

Destroying a piece of problematic historical art in a blind rage isn't something a progressive or wise people do.

Thankfully the parts are preserved and perhaps in the coming years, cooler heads might present this artwork in a constructive way.

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Response to cadoman (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 10, 2021, 01:30 PM

29. I can understand your point to a degree

However, some things just need to disappear



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