Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:03 PM

The President's mandates gives medical systems and companies cover. I think that was his intent.

The President knows this will be tied up in court for months if not years. Before the cases are resolved Covid may be over.

But meanwhile all companies including Medical Companies now have a fig leaf to do what many feared to do before now; mandate a vaccine. And blame it on the President. Biden knows that. And that it will save lives.

That, folks, is what leadership looks like. No Bullshit, no fear leadership.

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The President's mandates gives medical systems and companies cover. I think that was his intent. (Original post)	GulfCoast66	Sep 2021	OP
I agree totally; my thoughts as well. He provided cover for companies to take action.	Irish_Dem	Sep 2021	#1
I think you're right. Our nation is full of a bunch of cowards worried about their pocketbooks.	boston bean	Sep 2021	#2
Yes, it is leadership. It seemed to me that companies were coming around, get vaccinated or quit	PortTack	Sep 2021	#3
Oh, I could be totally wrong and it actually takes effect soon. But that does not really matter.	GulfCoast66	Sep 2021	#6
I agree	Mary in S. Carolina	Sep 2021	#4
Thanks for your excellent post. nt	Atticus	Sep 2021	#5
Should have just instituted an individual mandate	MichMan	Sep 2021	#7
He does not have that power.	GulfCoast66	Sep 2021	#8
I love Biden's "gotta get this done" and no F*cks to give Leadership!!	NotHardly	Sep 2021	#9
I doubt	Sgent	Sep 2021	#10
Agree, another day I continue to be	GoodRaisin	Sep 2021	#11
Didn't hurt, that's for sure. Think most businesses -- with any sense -- were	Hoyt	Sep 2021	#12

Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:06 PM

Irish_Dem (19,732 posts)

1. I agree totally; my thoughts as well. He provided cover for companies to take action.

Yep. We are seeing the real deal. Leadership.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:08 PM

boston bean (34,623 posts)

2. I think you're right. Our nation is full of a bunch of cowards worried about their pocketbooks.

Never just doing what is right and good.

Makes me cringe.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:09 PM

PortTack (23,168 posts)

3. Yes, it is leadership. It seemed to me that companies were coming around, get vaccinated or quit

Which it wouldn’t have hurt for it to go that way.

Not easy to second guess all that went on behind the scenes, so once again I trust what decisions he decides to make

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Response to PortTack (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:03 PM

GulfCoast66 (11,946 posts)

6. Oh, I could be totally wrong and it actually takes effect soon. But that does not really matter.

Companies will immediately start enforcing vaccines for their employees. That, after all, is really the goal.

Best leadership decisions I’ve seen in years. How many politicians would actually invite companies to blame them for doing the right thing and saving lives while pissing off lots of people. Damned few.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:12 PM

Mary in S. Carolina (755 posts)

4. I agree

Biden does not play; this is what American leadership should look like in all of our future presidents. Thank you for being effective, compassionate and competent!!

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 08:50 PM

Atticus (12,137 posts)

5. Thanks for your excellent post. nt

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:26 PM

MichMan (6,079 posts)

7. Should have just instituted an individual mandate

This leaves out a significant number of the population. People retired, working for smaller companies, students, unemployed, disabled and many others.

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Response to MichMan (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 09:33 PM

GulfCoast66 (11,946 posts)

8. He does not have that power.

There are laws that mandate businesses run a safe workplace and that gives him the authority in this case.

But even I would be against a president being able to mandate I get vaccinated.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:00 PM

NotHardly (838 posts)

9. I love Biden's "gotta get this done" and no F*cks to give Leadership!!

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:06 PM

Sgent (5,645 posts)

10. I doubt

that the mandate for medical systems is even taken up by SCOTUS (unlike the 100+ employer mandate) assuming it is even challenged. CMS dictates almost everything about medical care, credentialling providers, etc. (see Joint Commission), this isn't a big change but it gives cover to admin's who are worried about retaining workers or state owned facilities in R states.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:09 PM

GoodRaisin (6,784 posts)

11. Agree, another day I continue to be

proud of the leadership of this president.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)

Thu Sep 9, 2021, 10:22 PM

Hoyt (51,899 posts)

12. Didn't hurt, that's for sure. Think most businesses -- with any sense -- were

already mandating vaccines to keep employees from getting sick and avoid lawsuits for not maintaining a safe work place. But Biden’s mandate probably helped some make the decision easier.

Ticks me off that so many are vaccine stupid, such that a mandate is necessary.

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