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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:03 AM

I am not watching any coverage today on TV

and you cannot make me. I remember that day clearly.

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Reply I am not watching any coverage today on TV (Original post)
TNNurse Sep 2021 OP
Siwsan Sep 2021 #1
lisa58 Sep 2021 #2
Nikossitti Sep 2021 #3
malaise Sep 2021 #4
samnsara Sep 2021 #5
PatSeg Sep 2021 #18
BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #78
PatSeg Sep 2021 #81
USALiberal Sep 2021 #6
TNNurse Sep 2021 #9
kentuck Sep 2021 #7
Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #8
BlueJac Sep 2021 #10
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2021 #11
jmbar2 Sep 2021 #22
Ferrets are Cool Sep 2021 #79
piddyprints Sep 2021 #12
dameatball Sep 2021 #13
Diamond_Dog Sep 2021 #14
DanieRains Sep 2021 #15
hibbing Sep 2021 #37
DanieRains Sep 2021 #80
Srkdqltr Sep 2021 #16
Prof. Toru Tanaka Sep 2021 #21
MyMission Sep 2021 #30
BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #65
Srkdqltr Sep 2021 #45
secondwind Sep 2021 #49
Grammy23 Sep 2021 #33
sinkingfeeling Sep 2021 #17
jmbar2 Sep 2021 #19
niyad Sep 2021 #20
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Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #24
Rebl2 Sep 2021 #28
2naSalit Sep 2021 #47
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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:05 AM

1. Same here.

I don't think there's a minute of that day that I can't clearly bring back to mind - conversations and all.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:05 AM

2. Same here...

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:07 AM

3. Understandable

It was just crossing my mind that I might give myself a break and turn to something else. I remember it clearly, and just watching this makes my heart and mind physically hurt.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:08 AM

4. Ditto

I remember that day as if it were yesterday.
I was about to turn off the TV to head to work - it was on NBC and suddenly there was breaking news. And so it began...

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:09 AM

5. same here..it was 3000 miles from me so I experienced it only on tv anyway..

.. I think the ceremony is to help those who had an actual loss or experienced the horror first hand. They will be in my thoughts.

.......lots of movies on TCM that will keep me entertained. Saturday and Sunday are news cycle busts anyway

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Response to samnsara (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:07 AM

18. The problem with all the media hype every year on 9/11

is those who lost people have to relive that day over again. Many have said that they wish people would tone it down, as they are trying to heal and move on. I think we've all heard and told the "Where were you on 9/11" stories more than enough.

After the first few years, I stopped watching television coverage commemorating the day.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:15 AM

78. I'm grateful and a little suprised that the idea of creating "Patriot's Day" never got traction.

Turn it into a great sales op for mattresses or something. They even had a built-in tag line. Remember Tod Beamer and his catch phrase - "Let's roll?" I had awful audio running in my head like "Let's roll.....out the savings!!!"

I guess there is a line that even the most crass won't cross, thankfully.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #78)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:03 AM

81. Oh yes, thank goodness

It was bad enough the republicans used 9/11 shamelessly for political purposes and to justify increased military spending. We certainly didn't need a "Patriot's Day".

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:20 AM

6. Who would try to make you??

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:26 AM

9. No one, it is probably prevalent.

It is not on "This Old House" however.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:24 AM

7. I'm with you.

I'm not in the mood to watch more tragedy today.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:26 AM

8. Same here

And hiding every post on social media towards relates to the subject.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:30 AM

10. I am with you, just wished my wife happy birthday.

I have better things to do!

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:43 AM

11. I'm right there with you.

Besides, I don't need the reminder that it happened on my birthday.

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:22 AM

22. Happy Birthday

In my family we operate on the principle that all birthdays have a one week "cone of uncertainty". As long as you are close, you get cred for remembering the birthday. You can move your's to the 10th if you like.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:17 AM

79. Thank you very much.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:48 AM

12. We don't have TV.

Unplugged the cable (except for internet) years ago. Whatever I watch or read will be from DU.

I remember the day clearly as well. Every minute of it.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:53 AM

13. After hearing the released phone calls yesterday I am not wanting to take any more in just yet.

I had never heard them and I just started crying. I am giving it a rest so far today.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:54 AM

14. Same here.

I remember it clearly and don’t want to subject myself to it again.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:54 AM

15. I Have 2 Episodes Of Gold Rush To Watch Instead

They let Bush off.

And he was re-elected.

All I need to say.

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Response to DanieRains (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:48 AM

37. Should I feel ashamed?

Instead of my thoughts being about those lives lost, my first thought is the God awful war in Iraq and the lies told to the American people about Iraq and connections to the bombings. So no, I don't want to see Condi, Colin, Dick, w, or any others from that criminal cabal on my TV.

Peace

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Response to hibbing (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:50 AM

80. I Couldn't Have Said It Better

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:56 AM

16. I remember 9/11/2001

I remember 12/7/1941
I remember 11/22/1963
I remember 4/4/1968
I remember 6/6/1968
I remember 4/19/1995

All of these in my lifetime. I remember.

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Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:21 AM

21. I was pretty young in 1968 and don't really remember the Martin Luther King assassination.

But I remember reading about him afterwards in school from the Weekly Reader. RIP Dr. King.

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Response to Prof. Toru Tanaka (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:34 AM

30. I was almost 7, and it's my first significant memory

I was in first grade, in a gifted program where we studied everything including the civil rights movement and current events. It impacted me greatly.

I was in NYC on 9/11. I saw it. I went back recently, and did not go to the memorial although I thought about it. I saw the towers go up as they were built, and I saw them fall. I was there.

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Response to MyMission (Reply #30)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:41 AM

65. For MLK

I was also in 1st grade - had just turned 6 a few months earlier, and that same week just after the assassination, the school had asked if anyone had anything that referenced MLK to use as a sortof makeshift memorial, and my parents happened to have had a print that was part of a stylized series of water colors sold to them by one of their neighbors, that documented various moments and aspects of the Civil Rights Movement. The one they had included a description on the back mentioning Rosa Parks but featured central image of MLK, with other images of protesters around the outer edge. It was offered to the school for a special assembly that they had. The framed print ended up on an easel in the middle of the stage in the auditorium with a black sash draped around it.

As a fed at the time of 9/11, everyone was watching it on the TV in one of the conference rooms. We had all been through the major change in security posture after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and figured what we would be in for this go-around. And not long after 10 am ET, they told us to go home, and I headed to my mom's, going like 70 mph on my usual commute out of the downtown area while listening to the radio in the car as Dan Rather was covering the event, when he eventually and incredulously reported the 2nd tower falling.

One of my cousins worked in one of the towers at the time but she ended up taking off work that day by odd circumstance (she lived in Jersey and normally commuted there every day).

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Response to Prof. Toru Tanaka (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:00 AM

45. I was an adult for all except 1941

Just an observation. I have come to the idea they were all done for the same reason. The same thing we are immersed in now. Social justice. I'm sure I'm no where near the only one who thinks this way. Just a thought.

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Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #45)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:09 AM

49. Same here...

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Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:37 AM

33. I add to that 1/6/2021.


Our lives are littered with things that hurt us and are tragedies. Most are not on the scale of 9/11 but they hurt and cause us to suffer. Some of us suffered personally on 9/11 while others grieved in a slightly different way. It was a loss of innocence to see our country attacked in that way and coupled with the loss of life compounded the betrayal.

But from a psychological standpoint, I do not appreciate being manipulated to relive that day. The promos have been on all week with clips from the event being shown on various programs. To avoid it 100% would mean not watching any of the news channels, including local news. So even though I have no intention of watching any of the special programming today, it has been on already throughout this week.

From a mental health perspective, I don’t think reliving the day is particularly good for those who actually lost loved ones that day or the rest of us who had a different kind of loss. Grief and loss are part of the human experience. We learn to incorporate the experience into our lives but move on. There will be more losses to endure, some big, others less impactful. So visiting the graves on special days seems reasonable if we lost a loved one that day. Pausing for a moment of silence to remember the losses for the rest of us seems respectful but not maudlin. But to rewatch the planes hit the towers and burn to the ground seems far too much. Leave that for the history books because that is what it is. Part of our history. We must move on to get out of grief and loss toward a more normal life. I do not want to remain stuck in that terrible, sad place that we were in 20 years ago.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 07:56 AM

17. Same with me.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:19 AM

19. Ditto

It's still too painful.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:21 AM

20. Same here. I don't need reminding that we started down a dark and dangerous road

that awful day.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:25 AM

23. Me neither. I don't indulge in grief pornography.

Instead, I'm going to the closest thing to a county fair in my area, the Yorktown Grange Fair.

There will be a 9/11 rememberance flag raising done by the local troop of Boy Scouts, but that's it. I'm going because I've always wanted to see an antique classic tractor display and parade, plus demonstrations of oxen pulling and draft-horse pulling.

Yes, while Westchester County (NY) is mostly suburban, we do have our rural regions as you go north, with farms and orchards. All part of that moveable feast known as the Hudson Valley.

https://yorktowngrangefair.org/default.html

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:26 AM

24. The way some of these corporate news programs cover 9/11

It is more like worship.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:34 AM

28. Absolutely

Especially msnbc/nbc

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:04 AM

47. I was thinking the same thing.

It's all about reverence but it's so laden with this worship style that I can't stomach it. I know people who were in the buildings, I was far away but suffered the plight of anyone with tanner than pearly white skin afterward. People who didn't know me would yell at me to go back where I came from. And I would ask in my thickest accent, "Where? New England?"

We have declined as a society ever since.


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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #47)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:28 AM

60. Yup.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #47)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:53 AM

69. Yes, it's a touchstone for Right Wingers

An excuse for them to bring out there racism, cruelty and war mongering.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #69)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:07 AM

75. Also religious zealotry...

I lived in the middle of the mormon empire at the time so I was seen as an intruder since I wasn't one of the clan.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:28 AM

25. It should be a day of starting the national embarrassment for this country.

The Bush administration had a priority report on their desk that Bin Laden was planning an attack using airplanes. They ignored it. Then our reaction of Iraq when Randi Rhodes and others were yelling there were no weapons and it was a war ploy. Then Afghanistan, so many dead.

Then the stupid security theater at air ports. Followed by draconian laws. And a 20 year profit campaign by the military idustrial complex.

Instead of using the trillions to make our infrastructure the best on earth, instead of improving our intelligence capabilities, we reacted like a country of rabid fools.

Those who had loved ones lost that day should grieve like anyone who lost any loved one does on the day their loved one passed. But the rest of the country should see it as the start of our national humiliation.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:36 AM

32. I'm still furious with how Bush & Cheney got away with it all, including letting his Saudi pals

get away with it.

there were so many damn warnings.

Remember Colleen Rowley?

https://accuracy.org/release/9-11-cover-up-whistleblower-coleen-rowley/

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Response to Jon King (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:32 AM

61. ..."the stupid security theater at air ports. Followed by draconian laws."

As if asking old women to take off their shoes was keeping us safe. Or thinking they could go to libraries and ask for a patron's record of what that person was reading. It was all window dressing for the rubes who would think Dumbya and his sidekicks, Cheney, Powell, Rice and Rumsfeld, were actually doing something about security.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:33 AM

26. Me either

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:33 AM

27. Me neither.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:34 AM

29. I have come to reducing my 9/11 mourning to 9/11 mornings

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I spend them sharing the good works of DU-er Symbolman, Michael Moore, and Black Sabbath; feeling the irony of probably not ever becoming a DU-er if 9/11 had been just another day; and patting myself on the back for my eternal vigilance against being seduced or intimidated by the rightwing machine.

And then, I just proceed to get on with my life.




Rocknation

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:35 AM

31. Maybe Some

Caught myself watching something on PBS following some of the kids who lost their fathers on 9/11. Most of them had almost no memory of them. Many of them didn't seem to ask a lot of questions about their missing parent. Guess either they've heard too much or didn't want to upset other family members.

To me, that's the day when most politicians ran and hid, our military seemed inept (except those at the Pentagon who had to deal with the attack first hand) and ordinary citizens had to face some of the most horrible experiences war can bring. Instead of holding politicians accountable we just started wars to prevent any self reflection of what the talking heads in Washington had done over the previous decades. Then we squandered trillions of dollars fighting continuous wars and ignoring our citizens health care needs, rising inequity, racial prejudice or taking steps to address climate change.

The 9/11 wars have left a trail of broken soldiers who are severely traumatized by their experiences and some who have become a danger to society. And the politicians who have given us this live in mansions with bank accounts stuffed with millions of dollars (all made on government salaries), make regular appearances on TV justifying their existence and never seem to have one ounce of regret for what they've done.

EOR

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:38 AM

34. Me neither

It was shockingly sad and I won't forget. I'll reflect on it, but I will not watch it today over and over again. A woman on our local news who lost her son that day, told how every year on 9/11 it's like ripping a scab off. I believe I understand.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:41 AM

35. You and me both.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:47 AM

36. Disgusted with all of it

Like I need to listen to the likes of Andrew Card or Karen Hughes gush over Captain Bunnypant’s “strong leadership”…..the shameless worship of war criminals and we wonder how we ended up with the likes of Little Hands.

Picking a 20 year old scab.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:49 AM

38. I know what you mean

It's like we have to rip off the band-aid over and over. It's still vivid with me, the sound of roaring jets over my house makes me pause, all the time.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:50 AM

39. Same...not turning on the tv

Not sure why I feel this way. Want to skip all the hype and awful reminder of this day that changed our nation for the worse in so many ways.

I want to vomit when I hear reich wingers "long for the days when we were united." Such hypocrites, unwilling to look in the mirror.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:51 AM

40. Not watching any of it.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:52 AM

41. I will pay respect to those who lost their lives on that day. Exactly the way I respect every.....

..... servicemen and women who lost their lives fighting in unnecessary wars. A prayer and a moment of peace.

Followed by doing everything I can as a veteran, American, and senior citizen. VOTE for sane leaders in all levels of government.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:53 AM

42. I refuse to be told once again how to feel about it. The truth is far darker and more complex

than any sanctimonious MSM hairdo can express or will be allowed to comment on.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 08:59 AM

43. Same. Last night..

we watched “Come From Away”, the musical about the people whose flights landed in Gander,
Newfoundland, after US airspace was shut down. It was beautiful and uplifting, and that’s what I want to carry into this day.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:00 AM

44. im going back to bed after breakfast. its sat . and i dont have tv.

we were on the way out the door and mom turned on the tv and we saw those horrid immages on the screen.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:00 AM

46. You are the nice nurse :). Agree.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:06 AM

48. Me too. Can't. I just can't...nt

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:09 AM

50. Same here. nt

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:10 AM

51. Same here.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:12 AM

52. Ditto

Yesterday on msnbc was bad enough

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:13 AM

53. If remembering this tragedy would somehow make us better people...

Then I might spend time remembering. But I don't think it helps anything.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:17 AM

54. Ditto.

It’s already been more than enough, and in some ways quite sickening frankly. To be fair though, there has been some well crafted, thoughtful journalism that put the whole of 9/11 in a global, humankind context this past week. Nevertheless, at almost the very same time that the Robert E. Lee statue came down in Roanoke, it is striking to sense American imperialism being celebrated in much of the mainstream coverage.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:21 AM

55. Nor am I.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:23 AM

56. I'm with you...it is one of those things...time and place are seared into your memory

Don’t need to watch it again

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:24 AM

57. Remedial Anguish 101.

It took me about 15 minutes to get my fill.
Mecum has a car auction on today, but I'm going out to work in the garage. Let me know if anything goes down.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:25 AM

58. Neither am I

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:25 AM

59. Same here

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:36 AM

62. My niece is getting married

today and I am grateful to have something joyous to think about.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:37 AM

63. Same. This anniversary New York- centric and media-case tic story.

 

Zero interest.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:37 AM

64. I'm not either

If the annual coverage doesn't encourage us to heal and move on, it is nothing more than a tool to help cement hatred and fear into our national psyche.

Just as I do on Pearl Harbor Day (12/7) I quietly commemorate the lost souls and try to do something life affirming to cancel out the hatred and fear.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:50 AM

66. Me as well

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:51 AM

67. We are united in our feelings about today.

I also will not/cannot watch.
Once was enough!

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:52 AM

68. What should be remembered and studied to commemorate 9/11:

The 1st and 2nd Crusades, Saladin, Spanish Inquisition, Zionism, Gallipoli, Sykes-Picot Agreement, ARAMCO. Plenty of exciting adventures in those histories, about which 90% of Americans have not the vaguest clue.

9/11 was but a bump in a long, rutted and ancient silk road.

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:53 AM

70. Same.

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:54 AM

71. I am. Do what you want. The new documentaries this year have been well done.

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 09:55 AM

72. So do I.

To the point where I still have the same reaction to the second plane at the WTC as I did in 2001.

I don’t need to relive it, and I don’t need lectures as to why I should never forget it. Trust me, I won’t.

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:02 AM

73. On board

Grateful Dead 11-30-1973 is my choice. Happy Birthday to my daughter and Micky Hart!

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:02 AM

74. Me neither.

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:10 AM

76. NPR isn't even safe.

No "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me"

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 10:15 AM

77. I watch every year to pay my respects to those that died from the terrorists and those

responders that are still dying from working the pile.

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Sat Sep 11, 2021, 11:07 AM

82. I'm with you. Our mass media loves their emotional porn. It's a big ad seller.

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Response to TNNurse (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 12:05 AM

83. Same here. I feel for those few newsclips I have seen of people who

are still traumatized from that day. Vibes to one and all.

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