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Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:08 PM

Here is the problem.

There is nothing wrong with two intelligent people having different opinions on political matter. Discussing or even debating these differences can be educational and a good exercise for the mind. But where it all falls apart is when the person with the opposite view is so brainwashed and stupid that they are not even a worthy adversary. And that is where we are now.

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Reply Here is the problem. (Original post)
Mr.Bill Sep 2021 OP
PJMcK Sep 2021 #1
paleotn Sep 2021 #14
LakeArenal Sep 2021 #2
Jim__ Sep 2021 #3
Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #5
monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #24
onecaliberal Sep 2021 #4
unblock Sep 2021 #7
onecaliberal Sep 2021 #9
unblock Sep 2021 #12
Tommymac Sep 2021 #6
monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #26
Skittles Sep 2021 #8
keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #11
niyad Sep 2021 #21
Lasher Sep 2021 #15
Skittles Sep 2021 #16
NewHendoLib Sep 2021 #18
Skittles Sep 2021 #23
we can do it Sep 2021 #10
Ford_Prefect Sep 2021 #13
BidenRocks Sep 2021 #17
Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #20
BidenRocks Sep 2021 #27
NewHendoLib Sep 2021 #19
niyad Sep 2021 #22
HUAJIAO Sep 2021 #25
Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #28
NullTuples Sep 2021 #29
BidenRocks Sep 2021 #30

Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:13 PM

1. Facts

A debate of contrasting ideas can only occur when both parties agree on the basic facts of reality. When one party is untethered from this fundamental, chaos ensues.

That’s where we are now.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:00 PM

14. Precisely.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:14 PM

2. They are quite successful at owning Libs.

I think they don’t care about masks or vaccines. We say yes, they say no.

They are that simple minded to me.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:15 PM

3. Where it falls apart with Trumpers is that any inconvenient facts are just labeled "fake news."

At that point, any conversation is over.

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:40 PM

5. The equivalent of "Because God says so!" Shuts down the debate real fast.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:53 PM

24. GOD has no damn business in politics , period !

 

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:27 PM

4. The problem is they stand for nothing.

They’ll turn on everyone and everything they say they stand for when it suits them. They’re the zombie people. They’re heartless and mindless.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:57 PM

7. They don't stand for nothing. They stand for the Republican Party

A grotesquely misplaced loyalty, to be sure, but that's what they stand for.

The Republican Party and the privileged subset of America it represents.

A society where men have privilege over woman, whites over blacks, etc.

That's what they stand for.

Beyond that, sure, they'll pretend to care about any "principle" when and only when it serves the interests of the Republican Party.

They certainly don't care about a balanced budget or thr security of America or even if Americans die preventable deaths.

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Response to unblock (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 06:07 PM

9. They're not republicans in any sense. They're trumpers. N/T

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 06:24 PM

12. They are the borg. No difference between Donnie, foxnews, hate radio, and the Republican Party

They all parrot back the same lies and idiotic arguments

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:57 PM

6. 20% of the Population are braindead drones that keep getting the MSM to pay attention to them.

Methinks the problem is not the braindead drones, but the MSM...

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:55 PM

26. big dog ! I avoid msn like bad case of std's !

 

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 05:58 PM

8. I actually remember when I could debate republican people I knew

no more, that is long gone - what's the saying, you are entitled to your own opinions but you are NOT entitled to your own facts

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 06:20 PM

11. Kellyanne's alternate facts

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:33 PM

21. Alternative facts.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:06 PM

15. I came to the same conclusion.

These days I just avoid them. The breaking point was January 6.

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Response to Lasher (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:12 PM

16. Trump was my breaking point

the man is just plain fucking VILE

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Response to Skittles (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:26 PM

18. this

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #18)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:37 PM

23. the fact that he was held to no standards at all

AND had help from Russia -

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 06:11 PM

10. Lies are the problem. And refusing to see reality.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 06:40 PM

13. This is not a political battle it is a religious war. Their beliefs will destroy us all.

The Christian Nationalists and the ultra-rich are out to eliminate anyone who could vote against them.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:25 PM

17. This caused a flashback to

The Colbert Report.
One bit called Worthy Adversary had him arguing with himself.
He always won.

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #17)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:29 PM

20. I watched that show often

and I don't remember that. Funniest thing I ever remember on that show was when he had Bill O'Rielly on and Bill was trying to convince evrybody that he was actually a nice guy and that persona you see on his show was "just an act".

Colbert said "If you're an act, then what am I?"

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #20)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:56 PM

27. Truthiness!!

That was in the first few shows.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:28 PM

19. their politics is now a twisted religion

you can't debate with them because they throw the "faith" reasoning at you.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:35 PM

22. "It is impossible to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person."

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 07:55 PM

25. Here is a good example--

From a nutcase post on a county public health Facebook page---criticizing not only the county public health dept but everything else she could come p with....

eeekkk---

"OMG.. this is insane. Do you know how much the pharmacy tical (sic) company is getting from all this testing???!!! Billions and Billions. in the Bible money is a demon. Follow the money.. pharmacies and the end times..evil.demonic..billions of money to the pharmacies... Higher drug prices..one of our president s lowered diabetic medication to I believe what... $40.00 a month? Maybe lower than that ..while Biden brought the drug price back up to the cost is had been before!! Squeezing every little bit of money these people didn't have! Who pays for all this testing equipment? I think we're supposed to start buying our own ...soon? Is that right too?"


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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #25)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:00 PM

28. Thinks money is a demon...

...probably voted for Trump.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:09 PM

29. Thing is, they see ignoring facts and even consistency as a flex

They don't care about logic, rational arguments or facts. Being able to ignore all of those and maintain their "Faith" is to them a show of their devotion and their strength.

Until we take that into account, there will be no getting through to them.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Original post)

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 08:27 PM

30. Only one question.

Have I EVER had Covid?
I developed COPD issues in January of 2020.
Nobody got sick at home and I got my double jab early this year.
Yet the issues remain.
Will this test tell me that?

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