Here is the problem.

[Mr.Bill]

There is nothing wrong with two intelligent people having different opinions on political matter. Discussing or even debating these differences can be educational and a good exercise for the mind. But where it all falls apart is when the person with the opposite view is so brainwashed and stupid that they are not even a worthy adversary. And that is where we are now.

[PJMcK]

1. Facts

A debate of contrasting ideas can only occur when both parties agree on the basic facts of reality. When one party is untethered from this fundamental, chaos ensues.

That’s where we are now.

[paleotn]

14. Precisely.

[LakeArenal]

2. They are quite successful at owning Libs.

I think they don’t care about masks or vaccines. We say yes, they say no.

They are that simple minded to me.

[Jim__]

3. Where it falls apart with Trumpers is that any inconvenient facts are just labeled "fake news."

At that point, any conversation is over.

[Midnight Writer]

5. The equivalent of "Because God says so!" Shuts down the debate real fast.

[monkeyman1]

24. GOD has no damn business in politics , period !

[onecaliberal]

4. The problem is they stand for nothing.

They’ll turn on everyone and everything they say they stand for when it suits them. They’re the zombie people. They’re heartless and mindless.

[unblock]

7. They don't stand for nothing. They stand for the Republican Party

A grotesquely misplaced loyalty, to be sure, but that's what they stand for.

The Republican Party and the privileged subset of America it represents.

A society where men have privilege over woman, whites over blacks, etc.

That's what they stand for.

Beyond that, sure, they'll pretend to care about any "principle" when and only when it serves the interests of the Republican Party.

They certainly don't care about a balanced budget or thr security of America or even if Americans die preventable deaths.

[onecaliberal]

9. They're not republicans in any sense. They're trumpers. N/T

[unblock]

12. They are the borg. No difference between Donnie, foxnews, hate radio, and the Republican Party

They all parrot back the same lies and idiotic arguments

[Tommymac]

6. 20% of the Population are braindead drones that keep getting the MSM to pay attention to them.

Methinks the problem is not the braindead drones, but the MSM...

[monkeyman1]

26. big dog ! I avoid msn like bad case of std's !

[Skittles]

8. I actually remember when I could debate republican people I knew

no more, that is long gone - what's the saying, you are entitled to your own opinions but you are NOT entitled to your own facts

[keithbvadu2]

11. Kellyanne's alternate facts

[niyad]

21. Alternative facts.

[Lasher]

15. I came to the same conclusion.

These days I just avoid them. The breaking point was January 6.

[Skittles]

16. Trump was my breaking point

the man is just plain fucking VILE

[NewHendoLib]

18. this

[Skittles]

23. the fact that he was held to no standards at all

AND had help from Russia -

[we can do it]

10. Lies are the problem. And refusing to see reality.

[Ford_Prefect]

13. This is not a political battle it is a religious war. Their beliefs will destroy us all.

The Christian Nationalists and the ultra-rich are out to eliminate anyone who could vote against them.

[BidenRocks]

17. This caused a flashback to

The Colbert Report.
One bit called Worthy Adversary had him arguing with himself.
He always won.

[Mr.Bill]

20. I watched that show often

and I don't remember that. Funniest thing I ever remember on that show was when he had Bill O'Rielly on and Bill was trying to convince evrybody that he was actually a nice guy and that persona you see on his show was "just an act".

Colbert said "If you're an act, then what am I?"

[BidenRocks]

27. Truthiness!!

That was in the first few shows.

[NewHendoLib]

19. their politics is now a twisted religion

you can't debate with them because they throw the "faith" reasoning at you.

[niyad]

22. "It is impossible to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person."

[HUAJIAO]

25. Here is a good example--

From a nutcase post on a county public health Facebook page---criticizing not only the county public health dept but everything else she could come p with....

eeekkk---

"OMG.. this is insane. Do you know how much the pharmacy tical (sic) company is getting from all this testing???!!! Billions and Billions. in the Bible money is a demon. Follow the money.. pharmacies and the end times..evil.demonic..billions of money to the pharmacies... Higher drug prices..one of our president s lowered diabetic medication to I believe what... $40.00 a month? Maybe lower than that ..while Biden brought the drug price back up to the cost is had been before!! Squeezing every little bit of money these people didn't have! Who pays for all this testing equipment? I think we're supposed to start buying our own ...soon? Is that right too?"

[Mr.Bill]

28. Thinks money is a demon...

...probably voted for Trump.

[NullTuples]

29. Thing is, they see ignoring facts and even consistency as a flex

They don't care about logic, rational arguments or facts. Being able to ignore all of those and maintain their "Faith" is to them a show of their devotion and their strength.

Until we take that into account, there will be no getting through to them.

[BidenRocks]

30. Only one question.

Have I EVER had Covid?
I developed COPD issues in January of 2020.
Nobody got sick at home and I got my double jab early this year.
Yet the issues remain.
Will this test tell me that?