Machine gun fire increasingly heard on US streets. Yeah, MACHINE GUNS!

[AndyS]

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/09/15/atf-says-auto-sears-are-becoming-more-common-in-twin-cities/

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — The sound of automatic gunfire is becoming all too common in some Twin Cities neighborhoods.

That has the ATF actively searching for people who have devices that turn semi-automatic weapons into automatic weapons. Field agents are finding more of those devices being used in crimes across the state.

There's a video at the link. Gunners will always find a way. It's crazy making. An inexpensive device that replaces the trigger mechanism in readily available guns turns them into full auto machine guns capable of firing 700 times a minute and with high capacity magazines can be reloaded in less than a second! People are selling this shit to anyone who has cash! What the fuck is wrong with us???

Oh! For those who thought bump stocks were now "illegal", they're not. After the 2017 Las Vegas shooting that killed 60 and wounded more than 400 Donald Trump instructed the ATF to classify them as machine guns. A circuit court overturned that, so they are for sale again at your favorite gun store.

Meanwhile there's another device, a 'forced reset trigger'. It also emulates a full automatic machinegun. The ATF is questioning the legality of this device and, of course, the maker is suing the ATF. See, it all hinges on the definition of machine gun. Literally the verbiage of a 1934 law, not the actual function of the gun. It's nutz.

[DFW]

1. Well, hand guns are SO inaccurate. Give a killer a chance, won't you?

The kill rate will certainly "improve" with more machine guns out there. You can't expect Covid-19 to kill EVERYBODY, can you?

[newdayneeded]

2. Founding fathers

I'm sure this is what that they had in mind...

Sarcasm

[kimbutgar]

3. I've been hear more automatic gun fire here in San Francisco also

It used to be fireworks now it’s dome idiot firing a gun in the middle of the night.

[Dave says]

4. I occasionally hear machine gun fire

… at least that’s what it sounds like. Apologies for not going down the streets to verify (ha!).

I hear hand gun shots very frequently.

No, I don’t want to say where I live, but the city is always at or near the top of the lists for violent crime.

[durablend]

5. USA soon to be known as

"Trumpganistan"

[roamer65]

6. ...

[pwb]

7. Hearing it and it doing damage are two different things.

It could be blasted out of car speakers? A new App?

[AndyS]

10. Didn't check the link, did'ja? nt

[pwb]

13. No, I read what you printed.

I HEAR you.

[AndyS]

15. Then I assume you read this:

That has the ATF actively searching for people who have devices that turn semi-automatic weapons into automatic weapons. Field agents are finding more of those devices being used in crimes across the state.

Not lookin' for cell phone apps . . .

[pwb]

16. You got me. It cant possibly be recordings.

I turned in my M-16 in December of 1970 and have no interest in any of this gun pushing. So there's that.

[AndyS]

17. I turned mine in back in '71.

It was a very interesting time to be in the military . . .

[Devil Child]

8. By gunners you mean criminal gang members correct?

Who else is trading automatic gunfire in the Twin Cities area?

[AndyS]

9. "Hobbyists" think highly of them and any other thing that makes

guns more lethal.

[Devil Child]

11. Cool vid

Are they the ones shooting up the neighborhoods of the Twin Cities area?

[AndyS]

12. They are the ones promoting the sale and development of these devices,

same thing.

[Ferrets are Cool]

14. This

[Devil Child]

23. I don't think youtubers are shooting up the Twin Cities neighboorhoods

So no, not the same thing.

[AndyS]

24. Well, yeah, it actually is. It's the whole gunner mindset,

the 'culture' if you will. If it weren't for the "gotta' have it 'cause it's a gun thing" regardless of its utility or appropriateness these things wouldn't exist. If they weren't purchased in sufficient volume to make them economically viable they wouldn't exist but because they do exist they turn up in the wrong places. Like neighborhoods. And they get people killed like little kids in their bedrooms in neighborhoods.

It's the whole gunner mentality and "culture".

So, yes, it IS the same thing.

[JanMichael]

18. The photo at the beginning of that video looks like a toy.

Are they making ARS now to look like toys? F****** assholes

[NickB79]

20. Yep. Lots of high end air rifles and airsoft guns look like ARs now

[LanternWaste]

21. Anyone but Amy Cooper!

[Devil Child]

22. Nothing like a message from an old friend to bring a smile to my face

How are the nicotine cravings?

[NickB79]

19. They're called binary triggers

Fires on trigger pull and fires on trigger release (hence "binary" ), meaning you double the rate of fire on a semiautomatic firearm. Fully legal for some explicable reason.

The local gun store and shooting range has some drop-in trigger packs in stock, but i can't see the purpose besides wasting already expensive ammunition to play Army.