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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember when we lost all our freedom when they made us wear seatbelts?
Just to save a few million lives?
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)or through the windshield.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,919 posts)They don't require adults to wear seat belts.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)Lots of freedom lost then.
FuzzyRabbit
(1,967 posts)This is actual tyranny!
Journeyman
(15,028 posts)People riding motorcycles, be they young or old, are required to wear a helmet.
Children are required to wear a helmet while riding a bicycle. Adults have no such requirement.
So the only conclusion you can draw is, when you're old, slow, and dumb in California, you get to keep the right to splatter your brains all over the streets and curbs of our roads.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Hekate
(90,616 posts)
and relatively uninjured, was able to extract herself, crawl out the window, and haul herself up the incline to the highway. In the dark. She was well into her 60s then and is still alive to tell the tale at 79. Car was totaled she wasnt totaled.
Back when I was a young mother, my BFF wouldnt confine her child to a carseat in the belief that (a) shed never have an accident, and (b) her toddler would be thrown to safety if she did.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)The dog recovered in about two months, the son 6 months.
Hekate
(90,616 posts)
about the low prospects of recovering a normal life after being thrown through a windshield at speed were hair-raising. Once dated a young doctor who referred to motorcycles as donor bikes.
My trouble is, I actually believe both statistics and first-hand accounts, and so try to avoid becoming either one.
brewens
(13,557 posts)but a huge Nascar fan, and that's how I got him.
I told him we see a crash every Sunday that would have killed the driver if he didn't have all the safety gear. Not only does he survive though, most times, he's got enough control to get the car off the track and not crash any more guys. Same thing with our belts and airbags. Even if all you can do is stand on the brake after a crash, it might save someone's life.
Shermann
(7,409 posts)Analogies never work on most MAGA types. The reason is simple. If they were capable of the abstract thinking required to apply analogies correctly to their own experience, they probably wouldn't be MAGA types in the first place.
Your lesson just makes a strong correlation between two similar things without requiring much higher-order thinking. Well done.
JohnnyRingo
(18,622 posts)Tell them you'll have a hard time collecting for injuries if someone hits you.
In most states, their insurance company lawyers will point out you wouldn't have been hurt by their drunk driving client if you had your seat belt on. Suddenly half of it is your own fault, and that would make sense to any jury.
Irish_Dem
(46,767 posts)It was terrible.
WHITT
(2,868 posts)we lost our freedom when Medicare was enacted.
Patton French
(752 posts)The laundry list of laws meant to improve public safety is very long. But, or course, that doesn't stop the hypocrisy.
madville
(7,408 posts)Its a decision the driver and passengers make every time they get in. Is it riskier to not do so, absolutely. Is there a fine if caught, sure.
Its a law that millions of people break daily, and they have the freedom to do so at their own risk.
Can a business have a seatbelt policy and discipline or fire an employee for not following it, yes to that too. The employee has to decide if they want to follow the policy or not and risk the consequences.
But no one is forced or made to do it against their will.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)or drive on the right side of the road?
ExciteBike66
(2,300 posts)But a mask? Nope, optional!