Seriously, how could Mike Pence winning the nomination not be a gift from heaven for us?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

First of all, the sheer numbers. Can't imagine a single person who voted for Biden voting for Pence. He allowed a lunatic to get away with what he did. That's more than half the voters right off the bat.

Does he think because he followed the Constitution on 1/6 that we should thank him forever for that? It's like thanking someone for not pulling the plug on your ventilator in the hospital.

Secondly, people wanted to hang him! Let that sink in. They left a note on his desk that Justice was coming! His pal trump dissed him. Lindsay Graham asked trump to mend bridges with Pence and trump said " no way". In a million years, can't ever see trump backing him. How could he, given his his ego.

So that's all voters, less trump lovers, less Dems and Indies who voted for Biden. Who the hell is left?

Mike Pence needs to get someone to check his IQ

[StarfishSaver]

1. Lots of people thought Trump's nomination in 2016 would be a "gift from heaven," too

Be careful what you wish for.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. What he said. NT

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. Thanks I must have missed that. In 2016 half of the other side

wanted to hang trump.

[StarfishSaver]

7. You obviously did miss that

The whole lot of people on our side thought Trump was a joke whom Hillary Clinton would be like a drum

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Not about us. About them

[jrthin]

16. I had the same thought. nt

[JustAnotherGen]

26. This times 1000

Never expect anything from easily lead authoritarian Americans. They are looking for a Daddy/Savior.

[JI7]

3. People think he would be good "administrator" even if they don't care for him personally

They know he isn't Trump .

If the economy is bad or there is some other issue and they want change they might just think he is competent enough to fix the issue even if they disagree with him on many other issues.

The opposite can be true also with someone fucked up like Trump .

The point is that regardless of who THEY nominate we have to support whoever our nominee is.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. Wow I didn't know anybody thought he was a good administrator

But the point is not about us it's about them

[JI7]

15. Not what they think now but what they might think then depending on how things are

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. R's should find whoever actually provided the tax cut plan for the rich

Remember FG bragging about his beautiful plan and they are waited and waited and never got it. They had to take one off the shelf. I think that would be good for us too because it could cast light on the fact that it never helped anybody except the rich.

[FakeNoose]

4. I predict Mike Pence would win 100% of the evangelicals vote

... and not much else.

[LakeArenal]

5. Sounds fine by me.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Me too

[LakeArenal]

20. Always someone to pan an idea.

Used to be okay to have ideas.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. To thank him for listening to God and sticking by trump?

[Crunchy Frog]

43. I think that many of them prefer more aggressive "alpha male" types.

They'd rather vote for a loud, obnoxious asshole who occasionally pays lip service to their religion. Pence isn't loud or aggressive enough. That's my theory anyway.

[CrispyQ]

10. I don't think he's mean enough for the base to win the nomination. -nt

[FoxNewsSucks]

21. They wanted to hang him

Even though he was trying to steal the election for MF45, they still wanted to hang him for not being able to succeed at it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. Not to be picky, but didn't the word get out before the event

That Pence was a no? Oh but wait, someone had those nooses when they got there. They packed the pieces in their pickup trucks? Not that there is anything wrong with pickup trucks

[FoxNewsSucks]

40. They had a professionally-bult gallows

ready for Pence. Probably would have hung Pelosi & Shumer too. Or any Democrat.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. Yeah that's where I got confused because you said

He was trying to steal the election for dingbat

[Hortensis]

25. Imo, he's definitely mean enough in reality. Remember that

young woman he helped railroad into prison for 30 years for claims of infanticide, convictions eventually all overturned? If he were Afghani, he'd believe firmly in amputation as punishment for theft and execution of unchaste women.

[Elessar Zappa]

28. True but

the right wing base wants to execute him due to his “inaction” on January 6th.

[CrispyQ]

34. Oh he's definitely mean.

But he lacks that vindictive, bully streak that Trump has, & I think that is what really revs up the base. Name-calling, goading people publicly, humiliating people on the national stage, I just don't see Pence doing that kind of in-your-face stuff.

Also, he has zero personality & charisma. That fly on his head has more than Pence.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Agree. His meter never points toward charisma.

[Hortensis]

39. Agree within limits with you guys. But he's one of them.

Most trumpists are religious fundamentalists who behind a strong leader will restore virtue and greatness to a nation being destroyed by the left. We see at the rallies a few thousand who cheer tRump's aggressive vulgarity, but most trumpists are embarrassed by it. Believe it or not (believe it), a majority are repelled by overt racism; it's not "who" they are.

They always cheer loudest for promises to strike us own and rescue America from us. They want a leader who reflects both a capacity for ruthless destruction of the left with the righteous goodness and closeness to god that is theirs alone.

And the rest of the respectable right, who always deplored tRump, will again vote for whoever the debased base chooses because they've become all about beating us also. Their best chance is someone who can draw back the right-leaning indies. And multi-hidden-faced VP Pence could appeal to all.

Btw, imo, the lightning speed with which some turned into a lynch-Pence mob should be a clue to the fanatic commitment they'll give to whoever they've chosen as their leader, not just tRump, to their volatility, and also and to how quickly tRump's successor could turn them on anyone.

[multigraincracker]

11. Only if he has Ron DeSantis State of Florida

as a running mate.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. That would be great. The devils we know

[MineralMan]

18. I don't think he has a prayer of being nominated.

I can't even imagine it.

[Fiendish Thingy]

19. Pence will never be the GOP nominee. Nt

[mopinko]

22. tfg picked him SPECIFICALLY because he could not get the nod.

he wasnt a threat.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. Exactly! " Doormat" check. And I am positive FG hates his guts now

He's the reason the votes got certified. He's the reason I am not in the white house anymore. He dissed him even after the noose went up!

[Thomas Hurt]

24. The Pig was more fascist than christian.

Pence is a fascist and evangelical fundie extremist. I don't think that he would want to be a autocrat like the Pig, but he would do his best to install a christian theocracy here.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Dominionist. Fuses politics and religion.

[Elessar Zappa]

29. If he somehow

got the nomination (which I doubt he would), Biden would kick his ass. Too many Trumpers would stay home if Pence were the nominee.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. Exactly. Makes me think he definitely has screws missing

not to realize that. Geez another ego maniac.

I really don't see what they can do. Between a rock and a hard place. It's like they have to have someone that loves trump and someone who doesn't love trump, all in one person

[Paladin]

31. Would almost be worthwhile...

...just to watch trump go into public convulsions of rage.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Lol. And what would also be entertaining is when both

P and FG want to support the same person in a lower race.

[Hortensis]

35. I think the possibility that he could win is something to fear.

He is a religious fundamentalist and capable of being far crueler in application of his beliefs than nonfundamentalists realize.

He's a former RW radio succubus and extremely good at manipulating those who've become "trumpists." Don't imagine his previous image as tRump's most loyal handservant into a new image of RW strongman. Complete loyalty to a current leader is something they understand and admire.

His challenge would be becoming top contender in a field filled with sociopaths, but his strong religious fundamentalist creds and his religion-favoring achievements as VP (real) would be assets others didn't have. If he had tRump's endorsement?

[fescuerescue]

36. Parties and people fall in behind bad candidates

and good candidates.

If Pence were to get nominated, Trumpers would act like he is Ronald Reagan reincarnated.

People are amazing party loyal, even when the candidate is obviously terrible.

[bullwinkle428]

38. I have a better chance of defeating Filippo Ganna for the World Cycling Championships

Individual Time Trial gold medal than Pence has of capturing the 2024 nomination.

IOW..."LESS THAN ZERO".

[DemocraticPatriot]

41. Irrelevant. Pence could never could the GQP nomination,

with the current makeup of the party...

... unless, of course, all the Trump cray-crays die from COVID....