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But Mr. Manchin is also closely associated with the fossil fuel industry. His beloved West Virginia is second in coal and seventh in natural gas production among the 50 states. In the current election cycle, Mr. Manchin has received more campaign donations from the oil, coal and gas industries than any other senator, according to data compiled by OpenSecrets, a research organization that tracks political spending.
He profits personally from polluting industries: He owns stock valued at between $1 million and $5 million in Enersystems Inc., a coal brokerage firm which he founded in 1988. He gave control of the firm to his son, Joseph, after he was elected West Virginia secretary of state in 2000. Last year, Mr. Manchin made $491,949 in dividends from his Enersystems stock, according to his Senate financial disclosure report.
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)jimfields33
(15,769 posts)I think its his job to do this.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)The bigger problem I'd say is his chairing the Energy Panel in the first place.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)more fossil fuels and a law banning all forms of renewable energy, while also removing emissions limits on, well, everything.
That is what I'm expecting.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)From Google:
What happens when CO2 reaches 450 ppm?
For years scientists have said that if atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide reach 450 parts per million (ppm) the planet would heat up by an average of 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. They have also said that if the world crosses that threshold, ecosystems worldwide would suffer serious damage.
What is the significance of 350 ppm?
PPM stands for parts per million, which is a way of measuring the ratio of carbon dioxide molecules to all of the other molecules in the atmosphere. Countless scientists, climate experts, and governments officials agree that 350 ppm is the safe level of carbon dioxide.
Is 400 ppm bad?
Passing the 400 ppm threshold will not trigger any devastating effect by itself, but it does provide one metric of just how fast humans are emitting carbon dioxide. It is the concentration of carbon in the atmosphere that actually intensifies the greenhouse effect, in turn warming the climate.
We've already passed 400 ppm.
Letting coal man write climate legislation shows that there is ZERO political will to SERIOUSLY address climate change.
modrepub
(3,494 posts)But this is going to be compiled under a lot of scrutiny. Give him a shot and see what he does.
I don't expect a lot but the energy markets and those who use it are moving away from fossil fuels regardless of what Joe does or tries to do. Renewables and less CO2 intensive natural gas are the cheapest forms of producing electricity. With more folks demanding something be done, the market is taking steps on its own to alleviate the impacts of climate change. Nothing government folks can do about that.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)msongs
(67,395 posts)Amishman
(5,555 posts)Is a weak and loophole filled climate change bill better than none at all? Probably.
aocommunalpunch
(4,236 posts)And a weak and loophole filled climate change bill will only help that. There is no good spin on this.
Amishman
(5,555 posts)Pass the best bill we can today, and if in the future we have the votes, strengthen it later.
And if a Manchin drafted bill is the best we can do (and it looks like it may very well be), then let's do it.
We control the House and Senate by the thinnest of margins, we can't let perfect be the enemy of good.
Captain Zero
(6,802 posts)The pacS for the energy sector send over to him. Might be his handwriting but it's their Christmas list.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)is one that the 40th/50th most conservative member of the Senate will vote for. Same thing happened with Lieberman and the ACA.