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doc03

(35,337 posts)
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:23 PM Sep 2021

Why dont Democrats go to the voters in WV and

make it plain just how much money their state will lose if
Manchin kills the infrastructure plan. The Republicans are running ads asking voters to call Manchin and oppose what they call Biden's socialist agenda. They are even claiming it pays for abortions. But I have heard nothing about how many billion dollars and jobs it will create from Democrats. The Republican governor in WV even supports the infrastructure plan

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Why dont Democrats go to the voters in WV and (Original Post) doc03 Sep 2021 OP
Why doesn't their Senator? JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #1
I think their Senator is doing what he thinks his doc03 Sep 2021 #2
And they are being lead JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #4
If he thinks that, then he is very wrong. Salviati Sep 2021 #8
"Go to the voters"? maxsolomon Sep 2021 #3
They refuse to JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #5
What makes you think Manchin cares what WV voters think? dflprincess Sep 2021 #6
What policies do West Virginia voters want that he's not supporting? brooklynite Sep 2021 #24
$15 minimum wage for one dsc Sep 2021 #28
Polls indicate they supported the 3.5 trillion infrastructure package dflprincess Sep 2021 #29
Trumplodytes have so infected the state that it's Panich52 Sep 2021 #7
Manchin bows to his donors, not the voters n/t budkin Sep 2021 #9
Exactly Tribetime Sep 2021 #21
Joe Manchin doesn't care what Bettie Sep 2021 #10
Many of the voters that elected him also elected Shelly Capito onenote Sep 2021 #12
Because, as I understand it, Bettie Sep 2021 #15
It may help explain why he wins. onenote Sep 2021 #16
No other Democrat can win. Joe Manchin is better than any GOP period. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #20
Most of the voters in WV are Republicans so it's pointless in talking to them. LonePirate Sep 2021 #11
After their economic decline, they now prefer... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #14
West Virginia voters voted for Trump in overwhelming numbers. Tomconroy Sep 2021 #13
Why aren't Democrats identifying a person that can primary Manchin. WVA voters ... marble falls Sep 2021 #17
Once Manchin is gone, there never be a Democratic Senator from WVA in my lifetime....decades. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #19
I don't know about that. I do know that the most racist people I knew in Akron, Ohio ... marble falls Sep 2021 #23
Manchin has faced primaries repeatedly onenote Sep 2021 #25
I'm sure OUR REVOLUTION and JUSTICE DEMOCRATS will get right on that... brooklynite Sep 2021 #26
If West Va. voters understand what you say they understand, onenote Sep 2021 #27
That is much more likely to get Manchin to switch sides and join McConnell. We have no leverage. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #18
I don't know, but someone should... stillcool Sep 2021 #22
Governor Justice managed to get a big infrastructire doc03 Sep 2021 #30

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
1. Why doesn't their Senator?
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:24 PM
Sep 2021

Not meant to be 'flippant' towards you - but I've just about had it with Socialist/Abortion scare tactics by the GOP. it's enough.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
4. And they are being lead
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:29 PM
Sep 2021

By the same old GOP Trope.

I would be okay if the Democrats ran an ad that said - Hey you know your benefits you get as a result of opioid addiction? Joe Manchin is voting with the Republicans to take it away.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
28. $15 minimum wage for one
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:59 PM
Sep 2021

it has majority support in every state in the union. Voting rights for another.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
7. Trumplodytes have so infected the state that it's
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:33 PM
Sep 2021

tough to find a rational person often. Sis lives in Doddridge Co and feels surrounded by them. Manchin is desperately trying to hang on to his seat by placating them. Having a Dem Senator is encouraging but not when he acts like a complete DINO. Rational folk are probably to afraid to speak up to their close-minded and delusional GOP neighbors.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
10. Joe Manchin doesn't care what
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:37 PM
Sep 2021

the voters in his state want. He works for the Koch brother and fossil fuel lobbies, not the rubes who elect him.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
12. Many of the voters that elected him also elected Shelly Capito
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:12 PM
Sep 2021

who is to the right of Manchin. Indeed she is far more popular in the state than he is because, like it or not, she appeals to the largely conservative electorate in W.VA more than he does.


If he isn't representing W. VA voters why hasn't he been seriously challenged in a primary for more than 20 years?

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
15. Because, as I understand it,
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:32 PM
Sep 2021

he comes from an old family from there.

Name recognition goes a long way.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
16. It may help explain why he wins.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:46 PM
Sep 2021

But it doesn't prove that he ignores what the voters in W VA want.

Jim Justice barely won election as governor running as a Democrat. He switched parties and his support skyrocketed.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
14. After their economic decline, they now prefer...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:30 PM
Sep 2021

... do-nothing politicians.

Probably like this monkey, angry that it gets a cucumber while the other one gets a grape, would probably prefer that both of them get fed shoe-leather instead.



marble falls

(57,081 posts)
17. Why aren't Democrats identifying a person that can primary Manchin. WVA voters ...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:46 PM
Sep 2021

... understand how infrastructure investment will help their lives. Even Republicans can get that. That the longer we go on, the less of a threat "the big steal" is. And more Republicans are getting that message, too. There are real Democrats in WVA who could draw votes from the GOP, maybe a woman vet and attorney?

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
23. I don't know about that. I do know that the most racist people I knew in Akron, Ohio ...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:55 PM
Sep 2021

... except for my dad, were from WVA.

And Akron was a majorly racist town.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
25. Manchin has faced primaries repeatedly
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:57 PM
Sep 2021

And he has crushed his opponents.

A person who can successfully primary Manchin and win election as a Democrat doesn't exist

brooklynite

(94,561 posts)
26. I'm sure OUR REVOLUTION and JUSTICE DEMOCRATS will get right on that...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:58 PM
Sep 2021

...possibly with support from the Republican Party.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
27. If West Va. voters understand what you say they understand,
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:58 PM
Sep 2021

why is Shelly Capito so popular in the state?

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
18. That is much more likely to get Manchin to switch sides and join McConnell. We have no leverage.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:48 PM
Sep 2021

We get what we can, win the midterm hopefully, and come back for more after the election. We won't get the full 3.5 but we should get something and the infrastructure/bipartisan bill has some really good stuff in it too.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
22. I don't know, but someone should...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:54 PM
Sep 2021

some PAC must have some loose change hanging around to put something together.

doc03

(35,337 posts)
30. Governor Justice managed to get a big infrastructire
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 06:48 AM
Sep 2021

program passed. The voters were told we are going to rebuild this highway and build that bridge, they knew what they were going to get. But now they hear socialist agenda and paying for abortions from Rethugs. From Democrats we hear they have an infrastructure plan. I have no idea what that involves other they say we need it. How much will my state Ohio get and what for? How much will WV get, how many jobs will it make? I think they have done a poor job of promoting the plan.

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