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Nevilledog

(51,209 posts)
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:02 AM Sep 2021

Jared Yates Sexton: It literally doesn't matter that the Arizona recount effort backfired...



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Jared Yates Sexton
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Sep 24, 2021

It literally doesn’t matter that the Arizona recount effort backfired empirically. The entire purpose was to forward the Big Lie, continue the destruction of faith in democracy, and provide the Right an opportunity to learn about voting systems and their vulnerabilities.

When all is said and done, we’ll look back on the Arizona recount as the first of many attempts by the Right to overturn an election loss via weaponized conspiracy theories and giant, mobilized administrative efforts.

7:57 AM · Sep 24, 2021
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Jared Yates Sexton: It literally doesn't matter that the Arizona recount effort backfired... (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
More than a few republican crooks lined their pockets C_U_L8R Sep 2021 #1
Why? If we can't make the right pay for it, we're not trying hard enough ck4829 Sep 2021 #2
The Arizona Senate authorized it SCantiGOP Sep 2021 #3
Time to start throwing words like "vexatious" around... ck4829 Sep 2021 #13
What other states frogmarch Sep 2021 #4
Texas & Alabama Nevilledog Sep 2021 #5
Thanks! frogmarch Sep 2021 #6
Forgot Georgia Nevilledog Sep 2021 #20
We'll see. They want to keep this going in states through to next fall, Hortensis Sep 2021 #7
I don't look upon the Az. fraudit as a win for us. gab13by13 Sep 2021 #8
Seems to me that'd mean that no wins will be possible Hortensis Sep 2021 #10
Why are no wins possible? gab13by13 Sep 2021 #15
Well, glad if you think they are then since the GOP apparently intends Hortensis Sep 2021 #23
classic reply DENVERPOPS Sep 2021 #19
True, democratic party messaging has to improve before the nation gets back on track uponit7771 Sep 2021 #9
It would help if Democrats themselves stopped constantly peddling these gloom and doom messages StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #12
Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link) uponit7771 Sep 2021 #24
It certainly does matter. Unless you think that had it succeeded, it would be no better StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #11
The audit was a waste of time AZProgressive Sep 2021 #18
Fake audits are very lucrative ashredux Sep 2021 #14
It's not over Mz Pip Sep 2021 #16
They used it to create credibility. Stop referring to it as an "audit". It was a fraudit bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #17
+1 CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #21
Don't forget bilking money from taxpayers and grifting funds from their supporters. n/t FSogol Sep 2021 #22

C_U_L8R

(45,021 posts)
1. More than a few republican crooks lined their pockets
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:06 AM
Sep 2021

The formula of their grift is pretty apparent. Except to dumb magats. What chumps.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
3. The Arizona Senate authorized it
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:14 AM
Sep 2021

No way to make “the right” pay for it.

OP is correct, the investigation itself was the goal. If you found out a CPA or attorney had been subject to a major investigation, wouldn’t you be concerned even if they were cleared?

ck4829

(35,093 posts)
13. Time to start throwing words like "vexatious" around...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:40 PM
Sep 2021

Wendy Rogers and her kin, if they aren’t going to be held accountable for their actions, that will only embolden them, yeah?

Is this what we want? They will keep pressing to “decertify” an election, they seem to lack this “well…” mindset. What were to happen if they have a q-publican Congress and Senate?

It’s time to start becoming more imaginative in how we respond, it’s time for more action, and less “there’s nothing we can do about it”.

We need to be less acted-upon and more actors.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. We'll see. They want to keep this going in states through to next fall,
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:23 AM
Sep 2021

and many of those will have the same results, while information is revealed about the attempted coup and other criminal and treasonous activities.

Many tRump voters are likely to become openly committed to a coup d'etat now that they understand success is possible. Some'll be emboldened to openly not care if Biden was legally elected.

But we only need a few percent who normally vote Republican not to. And with all the talk of a RW coup, we only need a few more of the feckless left to become alarmed enough to vote.

gab13by13

(21,416 posts)
8. I don't look upon the Az. fraudit as a win for us.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:30 AM
Sep 2021

Our DOJ should never have allowed ballots, voting systems and other election materials to leave the custody of election officials.

Who is in possession of all of the voter data that was turned over to the Cyber Ninjas? Will "someone" use that data to gerrymander districts, to do voter suppression? By not stopping the Az. fraudit these people have moved on to other states. As a matter of fact a judge has ordered the Cyber Ninjas to turn over information and they simply are ignoring the judges order.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Seems to me that'd mean that no wins will be possible
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:02 PM
Sep 2021

as RW power blocs repeat this and other subversive activities around the nation. Do we accept that all their attacks on our systems and smashings of the law are our defeats at the outset?

It would be a way to look at it, but I question its utility as the Republicans shift their guns.

gab13by13

(21,416 posts)
15. Why are no wins possible?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:54 PM
Sep 2021

The AZ. fraudit violated federal law; Title 52 - Voting and Elections - Subtitle I and II - and all that our DOJ did was write a stern letter to the Cyber Ninjas. Our DOJ needed to hold these people accountable, that to me would have been a win.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Well, glad if you think they are then since the GOP apparently intends
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 05:01 PM
Sep 2021

to repeat this play in other states to keep their big lie alive.

DENVERPOPS

(8,847 posts)
19. classic reply
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:00 PM
Sep 2021

by every Republican I know when they are confronted with the facts: "Well,... the Democrats are far worse"

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. It would help if Democrats themselves stopped constantly peddling these gloom and doom messages
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:39 PM
Sep 2021

That's not the fault of the party.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
24. Only 64% of democrats believe Voter Suppression is a problem (link)
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:26 PM
Sep 2021

Its time for people to at least dry their hair so the fire will stay lit.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/21/monmouth-poll-americans-back-both-early-voting-voter-id-requirements/7774904002/

At 64%, Democrats were more likely than Republicans, at 43%, or independents, at 42%, to express concern about voter disenfranchisement, reflecting a concern within the party about voter suppression after several cycles.


 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
11. It certainly does matter. Unless you think that had it succeeded, it would be no better
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:38 PM
Sep 2021

than the result we actually got.

It's ridiculous for anyone to claim that "it literally doesn’t matter that the Arizona recount effort backfired empirically."

Good Lord ...

So tired of people demanding certain outcomes, wringing their hands in agony over their certainty that that outcome won't occur, and then when it does occur, dismissing it as no big deal because "it doesn't matter."

It's obvious that some people really don't care about actual results, but just want to complain, no matter what

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
18. The audit was a waste of time
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:00 PM
Sep 2021

I don’t think they conducted it in good faith and I don’t care about the results because I knew Biden was going to win in Arizona before the election so I don’t need an audit to know Biden won.

The audit really bugged me considering it took place in my home county and I would just like to live in a state where my vote counts. They never did audits when Republicans always won statewide races.

Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
16. It's not over
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:55 PM
Sep 2021

This is just the first half of the report. Wait for the second half to speculate on fraudulent ballots.

I’m not jumping for glee just yet.

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