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dlk

(11,514 posts)
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:43 AM Sep 2021

The Texas fraudit has finally shattered any remaining spin the GOP was ever about election integrity

Given TFG won in Texas, this latest scam and power-grab initiated by governor Abbott clearly demonstrates the GOP is hellbent on undermining American elections and with them, our democracy. Make no mistake—the fascists are here. The plan to sow division, and chaos throughout our country is working beautifully.

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The Texas fraudit has finally shattered any remaining spin the GOP was ever about election integrity (Original Post) dlk Sep 2021 OP
Agreed - these audits are one purpose and one purpose only - to walkingman Sep 2021 #1
Yes, the GOP plays the long game dlk Sep 2021 #4
It's not the GOP... orwell Sep 2021 #8
Yes, corporations & billionaires run the show dlk Sep 2021 #10
Citizen's United... orwell Sep 2021 #12
Citizens United has definitely been an intentional nail in the coffin of democracy dlk Sep 2021 #14
The anti-vaxx, anti-mask mvt is part of the same cause for chaos... HUAJIAO Sep 2021 #23
i think they're trying to gin up a take over of these blue counties. mopinko Sep 2021 #2
I agree dlk Sep 2021 #5
Trump is making the monkeys dance underpants Sep 2021 #3
TFG must have some incredibly damaging kompromat on Abbott dlk Sep 2021 #7
It's the ability to say 'I don't like Governor Abbott anymore' and then he loses re-election Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #11
If all eligible Texans were permitted to vote without impediments, Abbott would surely lose dlk Sep 2021 #18
True, but that's a bit of a change of subject vs. my response to your previous post :) nt Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #21
The point is Abbott in Texas is working to subvert and undermine elections dlk Sep 2021 #31
Okay but I don't understand how TFG having kompromat on anyone is part of that equation Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #35
My personal opinion dlk Sep 2021 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #20
So then... what are we gonna do about it? ck4829 Sep 2021 #6
Excellent question dlk Sep 2021 #9
Their goal is to turn our elections into total clusterfucks from here on out. -nt CrispyQ Sep 2021 #13
Exactly because free and fair elections are the foundation of our democracy dlk Sep 2021 #16
Look at the four counties JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #15
Yes, Abbott's numbers are tanking dlk Sep 2021 #17
I'm going back into trauma mode JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #19
Yes dlk Sep 2021 #24
Here is our problem. It isn't just one party LiberalArkie Sep 2021 #22
True, money has corrupted the entire system dlk Sep 2021 #27
"The GOP was ever about election integrity" Botany Sep 2021 #25
You're exactly right dlk Sep 2021 #28
Ever since "they" pushed through HAVA (Help America Vote Act) which put a lot of America voting .... Botany Sep 2021 #33
Paper ballots are the solution dlk Sep 2021 #36
I think the Russians were all over electronic voting machines in targeted areas in 2016 and in .... Botany Sep 2021 #37
95% of all votes are on machines that generate a paper back-up MissMillie Sep 2021 #44
Texas Secretary of State position currently unfilled; no immediate vote needed on Abbott's pick. tanyev Sep 2021 #26
This is all part of the GOP/fascist playbook dlk Sep 2021 #29
Your post suggests you think the truth actually matters iemanja Sep 2021 #30
They live in their own fact-free reality dlk Sep 2021 #40
Been saying for quite a spell, y'all. Trickle Down Economics is about to kick-in too? czarjak Sep 2021 #32
I would say it's not working beautifully. It helps them to continue fleecing their cult... CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #34
Especially for TFG, it's all about the grift dlk Sep 2021 #41
Supporting the Texas fraudit means you agree that T**** is the legitimate president. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 #38
Testing the waters for the next election... dlk Sep 2021 #42
Well, now that the Ninjas are done in AZ, time to make money off of TX MissMillie Sep 2021 #43

walkingman

(7,583 posts)
1. Agreed - these audits are one purpose and one purpose only - to
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:49 AM
Sep 2021

sow doubt about elections. This is all part of the GOP long game. Change the voting structure in states, reject the voters choices, let the legislatures make the decisions. All based on distrust of our elections.

Not sure how to combat it unless we can do something at the Federal level? Nasty white people have done this since our founding. They want to go back to allowing the ruling class make all governmental decisions. The rest of us are just workers and political fodder.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
4. Yes, the GOP plays the long game
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:18 AM
Sep 2021

Their malevolent intent can never be underestimated. It’s been clear for some time Republicans really don’t believe in democracy. It appears the lack of urgency with some Democrats for passing voter protection legislation can be attributed to the corrupting influence of dark money in our political system.

orwell

(7,769 posts)
8. It's not the GOP...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:27 AM
Sep 2021

...they are now just a proxy for Libertarian corporate America.

The only reason the GOP stills stands is because of the financial and moral support of US corporations.

They don't care about the "batshit crazy". All they care about is low taxes, bargain basement labor rates, no regulations, and elimination of anti-trust laws.

Which party does that sound like...

dlk

(11,514 posts)
10. Yes, corporations & billionaires run the show
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:33 AM
Sep 2021

Our unofficial fourth branch of government is the lobbying branch. I’m afraid this will remain the case unless dark money is somehow removed from the political process.

orwell

(7,769 posts)
12. Citizen's United...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:42 AM
Sep 2021

...opened the money floodgates, but this has been an ongoing project for Corporate America for decades. Democracies are unacceptable when you are used to the feudal organizational model.

The 60's scared the shit out of these sociopaths and they have been waging a slow cold war since. They attack by land sea and air (fake grass roots organizations, anti labor trade policies, and total media control.) This is organized and it is relentless.

It is not about what people want, it is about what our overlords will allow us to have.

The GOP is just the political arm. Power by any means necessary.

The American Democratic experiment is likely in it's death throes...

dlk

(11,514 posts)
14. Citizens United has definitely been an intentional nail in the coffin of democracy
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:50 AM
Sep 2021

I agree with your point about the backlash against the 60’s. This is one reason why bit tech, like Facebook is so insidious. Zuck’s goals are abundantly clear and they’re not democratic. The pandemic, however, has caused many more American to begin paying attention and I’m cautiously optimistic our democracy will survive. It will be a close battle, though.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
23. The anti-vaxx, anti-mask mvt is part of the same cause for chaos...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:26 PM
Sep 2021

It has nothing to do with vaccines or masks.

mopinko

(70,022 posts)
2. i think they're trying to gin up a take over of these blue counties.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 10:52 AM
Sep 2021

i guess they threw in 1 that tfg won to throw us off the scent or something. or maybe it's a little too purple for them.

but they hope to find some bullshit to chase dem election officials out of office. by force if necessary.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
5. I agree
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:20 AM
Sep 2021

Republicans don’t believe in two-party rule or sharing power, as in democracy They check off the boxes for fascists.

underpants

(182,629 posts)
3. Trump is making the monkeys dance
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:00 AM
Sep 2021

The idea of starting an audit now is purely pandering to a crowd of one.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
7. TFG must have some incredibly damaging kompromat on Abbott
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:22 AM
Sep 2021

With Russian assistance, no doubt. Abbott is looking unhinged these days.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. It's the ability to say 'I don't like Governor Abbott anymore' and then he loses re-election
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:37 AM
Sep 2021

and/or support in general for his agenda from the other PuQ's

dlk

(11,514 posts)
18. If all eligible Texans were permitted to vote without impediments, Abbott would surely lose
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:57 AM
Sep 2021

This latest stunt is to make sure that doesn’t happen.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
31. The point is Abbott in Texas is working to subvert and undermine elections
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:54 PM
Sep 2021

The goal is to establish permanent GOP minority rule. He will do it however he can, whether by passing voter suppression legislation or damaging the election systems in four large texas counties. It’s all part of the same playbook.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
35. Okay but I don't understand how TFG having kompromat on anyone is part of that equation
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:29 PM
Sep 2021

Seem to me this is just what the GOP has become

dlk

(11,514 posts)
39. My personal opinion
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:48 PM
Sep 2021

By any stretch, Abbott is no saint. However, I think TFG’s leverage over Abbott is making him take these recent over-the-top actions that are so extreme, they are harming him more than helping him.

Whether it’s the vigilante law, the border agents on horseback with whips, or this most recent “fraudit,” that will waste millions of taxpayer dollars. TFG is pulling the strings and sitting back & enjoying the show with his twisted mind.

With each new extremist undertaking, Abbott’s numbers sink further, even in bright red Texas. Of course, if the election systems are compromised enough, it won’t matter, which I think is the ultimate goal.

You are right about the GOP, though. I see them having devolved into a fascist organization that doesn’t believe in democracy. TFG was only a means to an end for them and it has always been a mutually manipulative relationship.

Response to dlk (Reply #7)

dlk

(11,514 posts)
9. Excellent question
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:30 AM
Sep 2021

How do we light a fire of urgency under Democrats? I’m not an expert. What are your thoughts?

dlk

(11,514 posts)
16. Exactly because free and fair elections are the foundation of our democracy
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:53 AM
Sep 2021

There’s a good reason for Republicans’ widespread battle against them.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
15. Look at the four counties
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:52 AM
Sep 2021

Their fraud will be inflicted on.

Look what happens to the voting machines after these fraudulent activities.

The fix is in. Those voting machines will not be replaced or not replaced to the previous number . . . its all about making it as difficult as possible for those folks to vote . . . just in time for the Governor's race.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
17. Yes, Abbott's numbers are tanking
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 11:55 AM
Sep 2021

This latest anti-democratic power grab only underscores the urgency of Democratic voting rights legislation in congress.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
19. I'm going back into trauma mode
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:06 PM
Sep 2021

Its how I was from the day the asshole was inaugurated until Biden was inaugurated.

I will breathe much better when every American who wants to vote CAN vote - and that happens with suspending the filibuster to get the two voting rights bills through Congress.

I'm very worried about Warnock's re-election.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
27. True, money has corrupted the entire system
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:43 PM
Sep 2021

However, the fact remains we only have one major political party that still believes in democracy. The GOP has devolved into a fascist tribe

Botany

(70,447 posts)
25. "The GOP was ever about election integrity"
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:42 PM
Sep 2021

They haven't been about election integrity for years.

See bush v Gore
See Ohio 2004
See Trump 2016
See Dick Nixon's deal to stop LBJ's plan to end the Vietnam War in 1968
See gerrymandering
See voter I.D. laws
See interstate cross check
See future Chief Justice Burger's stopping people from registering to vote in Arizona

The GOP knows they are a minority party so they have to cheat in elections, pack the courts, gerrymander,
flood the zone with dirty and dark money, and manipulate the media (Hell, I just learned that Zuckerberg
and Facebook paid a $5 billion penalty for working with Cambridge Analytica/Russia to help rat fuck the
2016 election.)

dlk

(11,514 posts)
28. You're exactly right
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:45 PM
Sep 2021

The GOP has devolved into an organization that’s a clear threat to our democracy.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
33. Ever since "they" pushed through HAVA (Help America Vote Act) which put a lot of America voting ....
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:23 PM
Sep 2021

... on electronic machines the exit polls quit matching the vote and the GOP got more and
more people in despite the demographics and societal desires being against them.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
36. Paper ballots are the solution
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:29 PM
Sep 2021

Electronic voting machines that can’t be audited set the stage for too much mischief.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
37. I think the Russians were all over electronic voting machines in targeted areas in 2016 and in ....
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

.... 2020 Trump flipped out because mail in voting because that took a lot of the EVMs out of the equation.

BTW When she was Sec. of State in OH Jennifer Brunner had an in depth and long term study done on
electronic voting machines and it showed that all of the machines had electronic back doors that allowed
outside parties to look @ and or manipulate the data in the machines w/out leaving any "finger prints."

MissMillie

(38,533 posts)
44. 95% of all votes are on machines that generate a paper back-up
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 02:59 PM
Sep 2021

that's nation-wide.

All of the states that are close use machines that generate paper back-ups.

tanyev

(42,522 posts)
26. Texas Secretary of State position currently unfilled; no immediate vote needed on Abbott's pick.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:43 PM
Sep 2021

I wondered why the news story on the audit kept saying "Texas secretary of state's office" instead of naming the secretary of state. Isn't that conveeenient??

Gov. Greg Abbott will end a second consecutive legislative session without a secretary of state.

Texas Secretary of State Ruth Ruggero Hughs, the state’s top elections official, has notified the governor she would be stepping down from her post, which she was appointed to in August 2019, according to a press release from her office. Her resignation is effective May 31 — the last day of the legislation session.

A secretary of state appointed in between regular legislative sessions is constitutionally required to leave office immediately if the Senate goes through an entire session without confirming them. The Senate Nominations Committee, chaired by Republican Dawn Buckingham, never took up Hughs’ nomination. Buckingham's office declined to comment on why the committee did not consider the nomination.

Hughs' departure at the end of the session will allow Abbott to pick her replacement without needing an immediate confirmation vote from the Texas Senate, which will be unable to vet the next pick until lawmakers return to the Capitol in the fall for a special session to redraw the state’s political maps.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/05/21/secretary-of-state-resign-texas/

dlk

(11,514 posts)
29. This is all part of the GOP/fascist playbook
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:48 PM
Sep 2021

They have made enormous inroads toward hollowing out our democracy to ensure their permanent, minority rule.

CaptainTruth

(6,576 posts)
34. I would say it's not working beautifully. It helps them to continue fleecing their cult...
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:29 PM
Sep 2021

...but it's not gaining traction with the majority of Americans. If anything, it's making millions of people like myself realize that we need to be prepared to fight GOP fascism in whatever way is necessary to save our democracy.

I have several neighbors who are former Republicans, Trump & his antics drove them out of the party & they're now registered Dem & will vote Dem because they see what the GOP has become. So while the GOP election fraud BS does fire up their brainwashed cult base, I think they underestimate how many people it's driving away & how much it's making millions of people more determined than ever to defeat them.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
41. Especially for TFG, it's all about the grift
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 02:52 PM
Sep 2021

It’s clear, so many GOP leaders have no respect for their constituents and couldn’t care less whether they live or die

38. Supporting the Texas fraudit means you agree that T**** is the legitimate president.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 01:45 PM
Sep 2021

It's a loyalty test. Do you believe in democracy or the retired guy at Mar-A-Lago? If you don't jump onto the Big Lie Train then TFG is going to run over you with his Base.

MissMillie

(38,533 posts)
43. Well, now that the Ninjas are done in AZ, time to make money off of TX
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 02:56 PM
Sep 2021

It's all about the grift.


Report on NPR today says that the Ninja report recommends that these audits are done regularly and on a rotating basis.

Money, Money, Mondy

And if it damages democracy, all the better, as far as they're concerned.

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