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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:57 PM Sep 2021

They HATE you so much, they are willing to die. But YOU are supposed to feel sorry for them.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mocking-unvaccinated-covid-victims-is-the-new-pandemic-blood-sport?ref=home?ref=home

There is a whole online-ecosystem of content-creators who make a living by mocking conspiracy-theorists. Flat-earthers, sovereign-citizens, anti-vaxxers... you name it.

There are websites that are dedicated to mocking anti-vaxxers that have died from COVID. In the article I linked above, the author bemoans this lack of civility on OUR part.

The anti-vaxxers are LITERALLY killing themselves to SPITE us, because they HATE us. But us being human, us having a breaking-point, us having limits to our tolerance, us enjoying it when someone suffers who wished suffering upon us, that's somehow an unexcusable act of malice we should feel bad for.
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They HATE you so much, they are willing to die. But YOU are supposed to feel sorry for them. (Original Post) DetlefK Sep 2021 OP
Emotional burnout is real. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2021 #1
We have folks at DU who think it's OK to sacrifice non-antivaxxers in triage, lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #2
Yep. Celerity Sep 2021 #33
They aren't willing to die; they just don't believe that they will. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #3
But they hold onto the lie because of political propaganda. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #7
They don't want to die, but they don't care if we do. Nevilledog Sep 2021 #20
THOSE "people" are filling up the emergency rooms due to their own selfishness Dawson Leery Sep 2021 #4
Exactly. And these "people" are also putting everyone else in harms' way too, with their... SWBTATTReg Sep 2021 #12
Plus, they're keeping us from living normally wryter2000 Sep 2021 #5
It's the same memes over and over hibbing Sep 2021 #6
Yes, that often happens. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #8
Corporate media virtue signalling. Fuck 'em. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #9
You subscribe to The Daily Beast? maxsolomon Sep 2021 #22
For awhile I couldn't access articles from them without a subscription, Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #28
I can't help but feel sorry for relatives who begged them to take a shot Walleye Sep 2021 #10
EXACTLY!! And we are supposed to feel morally compromised if we read a website Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #11
The only people I feel sorry for GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #13
Poor little snowflakes, feelin' all disrespected and stuff. Buns_of_Fire Sep 2021 #14
They seem nice. Nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #16
These people are simply reaping what they have sown. KS Toronado Sep 2021 #21
The most striking commonality among the anti-mask anti-vaccine HCA winners, aside from Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #15
I think the 'arrogance and bravado' hides enormous fear leftstreet Sep 2021 #23
You are probably right. They're probably not conscious of it, but Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #29
It is not the responsibility of the victim to empathize with the attacker Orrex Sep 2021 #17
I quietly smile and celebrate the death of each anti-vax idiot. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #18
yes, I read something similar on Slate. I've no fucks to give to NewHendoLib Sep 2021 #19
May covid reduce their numbers MyMission Sep 2021 #24
I'm tired of playing 'nice' to the willfully ignorant and intentionally rude and mean... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #25
The epitome of cutting off your nose to spite your face dlk Sep 2021 #26
Fuck them! Mr. Evil Sep 2021 #27
It's so much fun to make fun of "horse paste enthusiasts" traitorsgalore Sep 2021 #30
My first thought when I read this article was the author is probably an anti vaxxer qzwv8j Sep 2021 #31
subreddit: HermanCainAward Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2021 #32
The r/HermanCainAward sub is a collection of documentaries. On the surface, it may appear to be Politicub Sep 2021 #37
I think Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #34
The carrot approach failed. shrike3 Sep 2021 #35
There was a letter to the editor in the newspaper from the small town I'm from. My mother Politicub Sep 2021 #36

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
1. Emotional burnout is real.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 12:58 PM
Sep 2021

Doctors go through it routinely. You only have so much sympathy to go around.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. We have folks at DU who think it's OK to sacrifice non-antivaxxers in triage,
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:00 PM
Sep 2021

by not using vax status as a triage criterion. I beg to differ. Hand 'em a bottle of Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Clorox, or Hydrogen Peroxide, and send 'em home.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
3. They aren't willing to die; they just don't believe that they will.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:01 PM
Sep 2021

They've been told covid is a hoax; or at least that the vaccines are more dangerous than the disease, which is just a sort of flu. They've been told that their immune systems are strong enough to withstand covid and the only people who die of it are already sick or old enough that they were going to die soon anyhow. They are not killing themselves to spite us; they are being stupid and ignorant to spite us with the result that they are killing themselves.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
7. But they hold onto the lie because of political propaganda.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:11 PM
Sep 2021

Political propaganda designed to spite the Dems, and to gain political power over the Dems.

So I think both your point and the other one are correct.

There are going to be doctoral dissertations written on this phenomenon, so we shall find out the exact thought process
at some point. But the researchers need to act fast, their subjects are dying in droves.

Dawson Leery

(19,568 posts)
4. THOSE "people" are filling up the emergency rooms due to their own selfishness
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:04 PM
Sep 2021

and willful ignorance. These same scumbags tried to overturn the government.

We are better without them.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
12. Exactly. And these "people" are also putting everyone else in harms' way too, with their...
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:11 PM
Sep 2021

selfish behavior too, who knows how many have they infected around them, how many they unknowingly infected, sickened, and perhaps killed?

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
5. Plus, they're keeping us from living normally
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:06 PM
Sep 2021

And killing people who need an ICU bed for something else. Lack of civility, my fat ass.

hibbing

(10,597 posts)
6. It's the same memes over and over
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:07 PM
Sep 2021

First it is all the stupid memes, then asking for thoughts and prayers and of course the last step is gofundme.


Peace

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
8. Yes, that often happens.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 01:12 PM
Sep 2021

"Don't call them deplorable! That makes them feel disrespected!"

Those types were never going to vote for our side anyway. And many of them, if they had their way, would end all elections anyway... with their permanent "strong leader" trying to impose their right-wing social norms on everyone.

Crunchy Frog

(28,280 posts)
28. For awhile I couldn't access articles from them without a subscription,
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 04:24 PM
Sep 2021

and they had some articles I wanted to read. I'm not currently signed in on my computer, but still seem to be accessing their articles, so maybe they've dropped their attempts to make people subscribe.

Edit: Just cancelled.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
11. EXACTLY!! And we are supposed to feel morally compromised if we read a website
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:05 PM
Sep 2021

where the inevitable is documented.

Sorry. No.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
13. The only people I feel sorry for
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:21 PM
Sep 2021

are the ones who are forced to take care of these assholes, and any of their loved ones who tried to get them to do the right thing. As for them, I am all out fucks to give about them. They're not even worthy of the time it takes to mock them and their stupidity.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
14. Poor little snowflakes, feelin' all disrespected and stuff.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:23 PM
Sep 2021

I refer them to their mantra from not-so-long ago:

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
21. These people are simply reaping what they have sown.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sep 2021

Fuck your feelings, really?, turn around is fair play.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
15. The most striking commonality among the anti-mask anti-vaccine HCA winners, aside from
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 02:36 PM
Sep 2021

their political and religious beliefs, is the tremendous arrogance and bravado on display--right up until the end in some cases. They are just so cocksure of themselves, they will never be affected, they are STRONG, everyone else is weak sheep following orders, they have stronger immune systems than everyone else, they aren't at risk physically... And when they die, it's all fear and prayers and God's will and begging for money on GoFundMe (cyber-panhandling). Fascinating to watch this particular group of people get humbled, and then silenced, over and over again. Some of them overcame other illnesses including heart attacks and cancer, and they seem to believe their fighting attitude and Jesus made them prevail (less credit to doctors and modern medicine, obviously)--and seem baffled that it didn't work this time.

It's hard to witness this much stupid, it gets repetitive after a while. Here come the Prayer Warriors! Here comes God giving another dumb redneck his "angel wings"! He was a great guy! Just unwilling to take the simplest step to protect himself in a pandemic so that he can be around to support his family, mind you, but other than that, a great guy! Like a train wreck, it's hard to look away.

leftstreet

(40,680 posts)
23. I think the 'arrogance and bravado' hides enormous fear
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:24 PM
Sep 2021

seriously debilitating fear and denial

They're too frightened to admit a pandemic might kill them, so they go into denial

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
29. You are probably right. They're probably not conscious of it, but
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 04:51 PM
Sep 2021

the more afraid they are, the more arrogant and foolhardy they appear.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
17. It is not the responsibility of the victim to empathize with the attacker
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:13 PM
Sep 2021

Least of all during the attack.

Let every last anti-vax fuckhead contract the disease and suffer years of debilitating complications. I’m long past done with begging them to do the simple and obvious right thing.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. I quietly smile and celebrate the death of each anti-vax idiot.
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:15 PM
Sep 2021

One less GOP voter. Fewer brainwashed children who are taught to hate and who have the hatred reinforced daily. Fewer covid incubators. Fewer opportunities to spread their lies and the virus.



See ya! Wouldn't want to bee-ya!

NewHendoLib

(61,857 posts)
19. yes, I read something similar on Slate. I've no fucks to give to
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 03:16 PM
Sep 2021

the ignoramuses, dead or alive

traitorsgalore

(1,427 posts)
30. It's so much fun to make fun of "horse paste enthusiasts"
Tue Sep 28, 2021, 09:47 PM
Sep 2021

Jimmy Kimmel makes fun of them every night. It's called "a sense of humor", LOL.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
32. subreddit: HermanCainAward
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 05:08 AM
Sep 2021

For people who died from COVID and were unvaccinated. A Darwin Award.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
37. The r/HermanCainAward sub is a collection of documentaries. On the surface, it may appear to be
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:42 AM
Sep 2021

mockery, but it's not.

The posts that rank highest document the online life of an anti-vaxxer, with a stack of some FB, Instagram and Twitter posts that that they have shared encouraging others not to vax, etc. Then the posts take a dark turn, often with a family member taking over someone's account asking for thoughts and prayers for their loved one.

Inevitably, the person ends up on a ventilator and then dies. Some collections of posts end with a friend or family member imploring others to get the vaccine. Others double-down on the propaganda and lies, and blame everyone but the person who didn't have the vaccination.

The progression of the unvaccinated who get hospitalized is eerily similar.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
35. The carrot approach failed.
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:16 AM
Sep 2021

The "experts" in this article are living in a dream world.

Politicub

(12,328 posts)
36. There was a letter to the editor in the newspaper from the small town I'm from. My mother
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:36 AM
Sep 2021

sends me a link to the digital edition each week, and it's a fascinating window to peer into the lives of people who are very unlike the city folk I'm accustomed to now.

The letter was from someone who was wondering if the paper could print the reason why so many obituaries are for people under the age of 60. The obits used to take up a page before Covid. At most, a page and a half. This week there were four pages, and the ages were divided evenly between those over 65 and those under 65. Four or more pages of obits has been typical for the past few months.

The editor-in-chief responded to the writer of the letter in his weekly editorial. He said that he contacted the hospital to see if they would give him a percentage or range of the number of people who died of Covid. The hospital wasn't able to give him a number, but told him that it should be easy for him to figure out.

The willfully unvaccinated do not care enough about themselves or their families to give a damn if they live or die. They know the stakes. The pastors of churches are opinion leaders in the community, and they have a degree of culpability. The people that forward misinformation through email or share posts on Facebook are culpable, too.

I'm not sure if what I feel is pity, but it certainly isn't mockery. If I had to characterize it, I would say it's more a feeling of apathy. I have no power to change the minds of people that have made their decision, so I don't spend energy doing that anymore. Facebook has turned into a cesspool of anti-vaxx propaganda, with a couple of pictures of my cousins' kids scattered among the posts about horse paste and Trump. I don't log in anymore since there's nothing to see, and I don't want to add my meager number to the average number of daily users of the service.

So, apathy. Yeah. That's what I'm feeling right now.

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