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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepublicans warned their self-destructive COVID behavior is 'killing off their voter base'
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 75% of U.S.-based adults have been at least partially vaccinated for COVID-19. But vaccination rates can vary considerably from one state to another. The Mayo Clinic reports that rates for at least partial vaccination range from 77% in Vermont to 49% in Mississippi, 46% in Idaho and 52% in Alabama. Vermont is a deep blue state with a moderate Republican governor, while Mississippi, Idaho and Alabama are deep red states that former President Donald Trump won by a landslide in 2020.
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Leonhardt notes that the Delta variant has been especially deadly in Republican areas.
"Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S.," according to Leonhardt, "COVID has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000."
[link:https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/anti-vaxxers-2655186543/|]
Emphasis mine
The numbers speak for themselves. Killing the base to own the libs...
bif
(22,759 posts)marble falls
(57,257 posts)EYESORE 9001
(25,988 posts)Theyre counting on dirty tricks to win elections - not voter turnout.
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bottomofthehill
(8,348 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,733 posts)Walleye
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Johnny2X2X
(19,118 posts)But I'd bet the vaccine hesitant right now are even more political than polls suggest. That the people who are not getting vaccinated now are almost exclusively Trump voters and politically active. And that the demographics of non Trump voters who aren't vaccinated skew towards people who simply don't vote.
There are certainly political number crunchers who are looking at this stuff. In fact, if the last 100,000 people who've died from Covid were looked at statistically, I'd guess that 30,000 of them are non voters, and of the 70,000 that are active voters, I'd bet you'd be looking at 69,500 of them as reliable Republican voters. And this is going to continue unabated until this is over.
Of the 700,000 deaths, if 500,000 are active voters, I'd bet 425,000 of them are Republican voters. The GOP is down a significant number of reliable voters and that number is growing. It absolutely could make a difference in places like FL, TX, and GA.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)But they will have the most relevant demographic shifts resulting from COVID deaths. I also think long-haulers will be weakened and less likely to be politically active.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)But I bet many didn't mask or observe social distancing.
I would bet on your estimation for post-vaccine roll-out.
Johnny2X2X
(19,118 posts)Vaccine became widely available January/February when the most vulnerable were getting it quickly, especially after Biden ramped up the efforts. The little less than 300,000 deaths since are likely very skewed towards Republican voters. But I agree, the first 425,000 or so weren't as skewed, but still probably skewed towards people who refused to mask and social distance. Or groups that gathered while refusing to mask and social distance.
That first 100,000 or so was probably more 50-50 as it hit before we know how to protect people from it.
In the end, this could very well flip some close statewide elections in places like GA, FL, TX, and MI.
Wednesdays
(17,412 posts)There were 74 million tRump voters in 2020. In order to even make a 5% dent in that number, more than 3.7 million of them would have to succumb to Covid.
Johnny2X2X
(19,118 posts)In Georgia for instance, Biden won by 11,000 votes. 25,000 Georgians have died of Covid. If those dead skew Trump voters by 5,000, Biden's margin of victory could have been 16,000.
Florida was about a 350,000 margin of victory for Trump, Florida also is lying about their Covid deaths, that margin could have been shaved to under 300K. And think governor and Senate elections in 2022. Some of those races are going to be razor thin. 10,000 less Trump voters could swing a state.
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NJCher
(35,746 posts)when you get down to pinpointing, one can see that it has an effect. Thanks for doing those figures.
It is Covid deaths in swing states that make a difference.
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)PatSeg
(47,611 posts)They should have seen that coming. Rule #1 - Don't kill off your voters!
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)Why would anyone want these people controlling every aspect of their lives, through government?
MissB
(15,812 posts)Link to tweet
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Link takes you to a tweet by The Oregonian, Oregons main newspaper. It shows a chart of infections (not deaths) per 100k, and the reddest parts of the state are the ones clearly hit the hardest.
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LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)how much worse their COVID rates are.
There was a NYTimes piece on this a couple days ago.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)theyll have to start stacking kids in trench coats to make up for the votes lost to Covid.
Paladin
(28,276 posts)IronLionZion
(45,540 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)It's only going to kill people who vote the wrong way.
So why are we even trying to slow Covid down?
Let's kick it in gear and hope for a 50 state victory in 2024!
(yes that's sarcasm. I really hate threads where political joy is taken over people dying)
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)but we have to be realistic. It's not enough to matter, and Democrats are also among the totals dying in those red states.
They both lost voters and gained some previous nonvoters in 2020, though. Hopefully, they'll have a net loss in 2022, a few who died but most who decided not to vote Republican. To say they have reason is the understatement of the century.
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)& we shouldn't be rooting for people to die
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)as well as elders who need them.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)as well as elders who need them.
"Look for mean people." Main indication of nations in danger of falling to RW authoritarianism.
cilla4progress
(24,776 posts)I really don't think Melania cares, do you?
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)andym
(5,445 posts)47 out of 100,000 in Trump counties is the highest number and that is only 0.047%. So It doesn't really affect their ability to win elections, but the ongoing pandemic hurts the economy which they believe will reflect badly on Democrats.
dlk
(11,578 posts)They have fully committed to their current destructive course.
James48
(4,441 posts)I didnt used to be for them killing off themselves.
But at this point- hey, I tried to tell them.
Its all on them now. I did my part.