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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEleven Madison Park's Vegan-Only Restaurant Has a Secret Meat Room for the Rich
https://ny.eater.com/2021/9/29/22700073/eleven-madison-park-vegan-nyt-review-meat-roomNew York Times restaurant critic Pete Wells slaughtered Eleven Madison Parks revamped, veganized menu in an unstarred critical review this week but the real golden nugget from the piece is that the all-vegan restaurant, has, well, a secret beef room. According to Wells, Eleven Madison Park offers an optional beef tenderloin dish to customers in its swanky private dining room, while maintaining the much-hyped vegan menu out front. Wells writes, Its some kind of metaphor for Manhattan, where theres always a higher level of luxury, a secret room where the rich eat roasted tenderloin while everybody else gets an eggplant canoe.
I am sorry but this is hilarious.
As Chelsea Fagan states.
can't stop thinking about the secret beef room at eleven madison park. let's reboot boardwalk empire but about bootlegging beef into other plant-based restaurants
I think more vegan restaurants need secret rooms where you can get a decent steak.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)edhopper
(33,554 posts)Eleven Madison is a $$$$ restaurant with meals that can cost hundreds of $. It is not an everyday Vegan restaurant.
It was one of the top NY restaurants and when it went all vegan was a very big deal among NY Foodies.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)wryter2000
(46,032 posts)What is this "secret room for the rich" about?
edhopper
(33,554 posts)They have a private dining room for parties and such and will serve meat there until the end of the year (according to the review) They just don't want meat in the main dining room.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"food insecure New Yorkers" for every one sold. This started during the pandemic when their restaurant virtually closed down and they joined an organization to prepare, eventually, a million meals for the food-insecure. Obviously, they afford to, of course, but it was a certainly a positive way dealing with a time of severe business reverses and now they're...very busy.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)And some guy shows up to serve you a root vegetable in a clay jar?
It is like something out of that one Blackadder episode.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)edhopper
(33,554 posts)10 courses.
You could eat there for half that. A bargain!
Celerity
(43,266 posts)Daniel Humm has a history of problematic decisions.
In 2016, he essentially halved the number of courses in the tasting menu (non vegan back then ) without changing the base price (granted some with larger portions) whilst also doing away with tipping, BUT slamming on a huge service charge, so basically an enforced mandatory 31% tip.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/dining/eleven-madison-park-menu.html
dsc
(52,155 posts)we can quibble about the exact percent but the fact is the wait staff should be paid a decent wage and we should pay for our meals and that should be that.
Celerity
(43,266 posts)Many US restos take a big chunk of those 'service charges' as well. That practice should be banned (if legally possible, I admit I am not an expert on US wage/employee law).
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Maybe it wasn't that particular restaurant, but whatever. NYC has a lot of choices.
Anthony Bourdain always said get a dirty water dog in NY instead.
Dr. Strange
(25,919 posts)I think I remember a thread about that New York restaurant.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Strange note, though. I know trumpists are exhaling victimization syndrome with every breath these days, along with the virus, and of course there're the eternal class resentments on the far left also, but the NYT? Have they discovered a persecuted-subscriber complex to be fed?
wryter2000
(46,032 posts)That's what they went there for.
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But sure... maybe you think/pretend those concepts are building blocks towards a just and equitable society.
(as an aside... not everyone can eat whatever they like. A relevant concept to understand unless one embraces greed as a standard of existence)
Part II
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)committed to sustainable food and a clientele into veggie-same.
I imagine it's the money that offends. To me an irritating reminder of our refusal to take responsible action.
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)I say let them serve what they want. Good for them. Variety is the spice of life of it used to be.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,316 posts)The pot is wheeled out to your table, where a server smashes the clay with a ball-peen hammer. The beet is cleaned of pottery shards and transferred to a plate with a red-wine and beet-juice reduction that is oddly pungent in a way that may remind you of Worcestershire sauce.
They used to do a similar beet act at Agern, a New Nordic restaurant in Grand Central Terminal, roasting it inside a crust of salt and vegetable ash. That beet tasted like a beet, but more so. The one at Eleven Madison Park tastes like Lemon Pledge and smells like a burning joint.
I suspect that the summer-squash dish that appears halfway through the menu somehow descends from the butter-poached lobster. I dont know what else accounts for the viscous liquid that looks and sort of feels like browned butter, but clearly isnt. It tastes of vadouvan and something else, something harsh and sharp that overpowers the nugget of sesame-seed tofu hidden inside a squash blossom.
Hekate
(90,627 posts)
restaurants.
And definitely hilarious.
brooklynite
(94,488 posts)Everyone else is (as the purists here have complained) spending $330 for a Vegan menu. If people want to make a special order, whatd the problem?
FWIW - my wife and I have the finest Umbrian beef, cooked rare, for this evenings dinner. Only Eurp 50 a person for four courses and wine.
marie999
(3,334 posts)for both vegan and meat meals, they are not serving vegan meals. They should go by rules similar to kosher.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)I assume they clean the Pan wipe the grill down whatever between cooking why would it matter?
Honestly you're turning a simple dietary choice into a complicated religion.
marie999
(3,334 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)private dining room. This is their community after all. And others who didn't know now do, though probably they were few for the very reason that these things are important to them.
I checked the restaurant's web site. During the pandemic, they supposedly became more immersed in environmental food issues and food insecurity and eventually joined the movement to food sustainability by changing to a plant-based menu.
Veganism is not mentioned. Sustainability concerns do not include many of the philosophical issues of veganism, and I assume those vegans who are scrupulous about what they eat would know that.
Hekate
(90,627 posts)
that don't adhere to their strict dietary requirements. You can see where Im going with this, I trust.
How can a vegan eat at a celebrated vegan restaurant that secretly prepares and serves steaks out of the same kitchen? Isnt that a serious breach of trust?
Hekate
No specific dietary restrictions in my kitchen, but Ill endeavor to make something you can eat as long as you understand my utensils get used for everything
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Voltaire2
(12,995 posts)A lot of us arent fanatic about our diet. Until rather recently vegan restaurants were scarce to say the least. Consequently if you dined out you selected from the few hopefully vegan choices.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,488 posts)the room will be serving beef only until the end of this year.
I'm curious if they're fulfilling contacts from before the shutdown, either from private dining customers or from their contract with a farm. (EMP buys from local hudson valley farms.)
It's not like the restaurant itself isn't some rich person fantasy place.... At $335 per diner, how much MORE wealthy do you have to actually be to dine in the private dining room?