Wed Sep 29, 2021, 06:56 PM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
Breaking: House Select Committee subpoenas 11 "Stop the Steal" organizersThe select committee investigating the January 6 insurrection has issued its second round of subpoenas, this time targeting individuals involved in the planning and organization of the "Stop the Steal" rally that served as a prelude to the riot at the US Capitol and other rallies organized in the lead up to the day of the attack.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/29/politics/january-6-subpoenas-stop-the-steal-rally/index.html
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StarfishSaver | Sep 2021 | OP |
Biophilic | Sep 2021 | #1 | |
Nittersing | Sep 2021 | #2 | |
empedocles | Sep 2021 | #8 | |
OAITW r.2.0 | Sep 2021 | #3 | |
mcar | Sep 2021 | #4 | |
Fiendish Thingy | Sep 2021 | #5 | |
StarfishSaver | Sep 2021 | #6 | |
Fiendish Thingy | Sep 2021 | #7 | |
ProfessorGAC | Sep 2021 | #9 | |
Gaugamela | Sep 2021 | #10 | |
StarfishSaver | Sep 2021 | #12 | |
Gaugamela | Sep 2021 | #24 | |
StarfishSaver | Sep 2021 | #26 | |
Gaugamela | Sep 2021 | #28 | |
StarfishSaver | Sep 2021 | #29 | |
sheshe2 | Sep 2021 | #11 | |
Just_Vote_Dem | Sep 2021 | #13 | |
czarjak | Sep 2021 | #14 | |
wnylib | Sep 2021 | #15 | |
fierywoman | Sep 2021 | #16 | |
hibbing | Sep 2021 | #19 | |
bucolic_frolic | Sep 2021 | #17 | |
erronis | Sep 2021 | #21 | |
FakeNoose | Sep 2021 | #27 | |
Grins | Sep 2021 | #18 | |
Mollyann | Sep 2021 | #22 | |
TeamProg | Sep 2021 | #20 | |
Quakerfriend | Sep 2021 | #23 | |
ancianita | Sep 2021 | #25 |
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:00 PM
Biophilic (3,092 posts)
1. Yes!!! nt
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:04 PM
Nittersing (5,811 posts)
2. Ah. The organizers.
Bit by bit. Step by step.
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Response to Nittersing (Reply #2)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:28 PM
empedocles (15,751 posts)
8. 'The Process' keeps grinding away. Getting ever closer to the top.
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:05 PM
OAITW r.2.0 (20,429 posts)
3. Treason is prison, nt
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:05 PM
mcar (41,337 posts)
4. Oh yeah!
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:06 PM
Fiendish Thingy (13,724 posts)
5. That list better include Ali Alexander and Alex Jones- link doesn't say. Nt
Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #5)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:09 PM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
6. Why must THIS list include them - and what if it doesn't?
Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #6)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:15 PM
Fiendish Thingy (13,724 posts)
7. They were two of the most prominent organizers of the Insurrection
Jones obtained a permit through a fake front organization for a rally at the East side of the Capitol, which never occurred, instead the crowd that gathered for the rally breached the barriers and entered the Capitol.
The woman named in the CNN article was associated with them. Yes, I get that this may be the first wave of several waves of subpoenas targeting the organizers of the insurrection- just wanted to speak out on two of the most notorious names among that group. |
Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #6)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:34 PM
ProfessorGAC (61,059 posts)
9. Perhaps A Better Way To Phrase It...
...is that Alexander & Jones sure out to be on that list.
Not have to, or better be, but it sure seems appropriate. And, if Alexander is on that list, he might be hard to serve. He seems pretty slippery & shadowy. |
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:38 PM
Gaugamela (2,375 posts)
10. I keep hearing about subpoenas being issued. Can we assume that depositions are happening
in the background, or are we waiting for public hearings at some point in the future? Just wondering what the process is.
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Response to Gaugamela (Reply #10)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:03 PM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
12. The people being subpoenaed are not likely to be giving depositions
However, it's possible that other cooperating witnesses are.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #12)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:06 PM
Gaugamela (2,375 posts)
24. So they're being subpoenaed for records and documents? Nt
Response to Gaugamela (Reply #24)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:25 PM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
26. No -
They're being subpoenaed to testify. But not via deposition. A deposition is giving testimony under oath but is different than giving testimony at a hearing. Among other things, depositions are not conducted in public (although the transcript can be made public).
People who are giving testimony via deposition are probably testifying voluntarily and are giving background information to the committee. |
Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #26)
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 12:20 AM
Gaugamela (2,375 posts)
28. So basically this is ground level investigations, off the record so to speak, to see what everyone's
story is. Try to get some facts, but possibly see where their testimony changes when under oath. Am I getting warmer?
BTW, thanks for your replies. I get the sense you’re a lawyer and likely know what you’re talking about. |
Response to Gaugamela (Reply #28)
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 12:52 AM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
29. Yes and no
Some of the interviews/depositions are of friendly witnesses to give the committee important information - although one of the reasons they do it under oath is to pin them down (or just capture the facts whole still fresh in their minds).
But they don't take depositions of all witnesses. They hear from many of them - particularly those under subpoena - for the first time when they testify in the hearings. |
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:41 PM
sheshe2 (80,836 posts)
11. Here we go, buckle up.
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:14 PM
Just_Vote_Dem (2,543 posts)
13. K & R!!!
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:31 PM
czarjak (9,903 posts)
14. The Kremers...
HAHAHAHAHAHA…HAHAHAHAHAHA………
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:34 PM
wnylib (20,373 posts)
15. Excellent news. Thanks for posting it.
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:41 PM
fierywoman (7,264 posts)
16. I want to see Ginny Thomas brought in.
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 08:57 PM
bucolic_frolic (39,258 posts)
17. Stop the Steal sounds like a gameshow format. These people are mentally depraved
They're all money and no brains.
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #17)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:23 PM
erronis (13,906 posts)
21. Unfortunately in this country that's how most of the prizes are won.
And I don't mean just the game show participants.
Also the stock market speculators, the con artists, the snake oil and MLM marketeers, the politicians, the advertisers, the MSM. (This list could keep on going so I'll stop.) Wait - I forgot all the preachers, etc. |
Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #17)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:42 PM
FakeNoose (30,720 posts)
27. Especially considering THEY were the ones trying to steal the election
... not the other way around.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:05 PM
Grins (6,743 posts)
18. What shitty reporting.
Subpoenas 11 but only names one. Great work, CNN!!
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Response to Grins (Reply #18)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:39 PM
Mollyann (100 posts)
22. Politicus
Has the complete list.
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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:17 PM
TeamProg (4,540 posts)
20. Keep them coming! n/t
Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 09:51 PM
Quakerfriend (5,169 posts)
23. Here are the eleven-
Response to Quakerfriend (Reply #23)
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 10:10 PM
ancianita (33,671 posts)
25. Cool. Thanks for the link.
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