It would not surprise me if Republicans in the House

[berni_mccoy]

Vote to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill, which would effectively end the second portion. Republicans in the Senate voted for this, the House Republicans have every reason to. I would not doubt that this has been McConnell’s plan all along. We’d be left with the CPC being bag holders of a bill that goes nowhere and it would effectively kill Biden’s agenda.

I hope Pelosi is considering this possibility and that she does not allow the GOP to split Democrats.

[OnDoutside]

1. To consider that, you must also wonder if he had inside help...

[Demsrule86]

2. I think the bill should be passed. We need to get something.

[berni_mccoy]

3. Not without the other bill! That was an agreement that was made by all Democrats

[qazplm135]

7. We do but it doesn't have to be TODAY

It can be next week or the week after. When we have some sort of agreement on reconciliation.

[berni_mccoy]

9. They will never get the votes once if the bipartisan bill

Passes in the house first.

[Demsrule86]

13. The other bill isn't even written and there are no guarantees that it will pass.

I hope it does. But we need to pass the infrastructure bill. We have the votes. I do not believe in holding a bill already to go hostage to a bill that may never pass.

[qazplm135]

20. ok

so if that ENDS up being true a month from now, let me know, there's nothing about TODAY that requires it to pass TODAY.

[Demsrule86]

14. The bill isn't written...and what if we don't get the second bill? It will be 1.5 trillion at most

assuming you can get Sinema to agree to anything...whether reconciliation passes or not we need to pass the infrastructure bill.

[qazplm135]

21. why are you against at least trying?

Why do you require the bill to pass today versus next week or mid October?

What fundamentally changes in 22 if we pass it OCT whatever with whatever can be agreed on for reconciliation versus today with no agreement?

This anxious fear that somehow we have to do it NOWWWWW or all is lost is ridiculous.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

30. Here is the answer

Why not go for $1.75 trillion over FIVE years instead of ten years. We can extend it in 5 years to do the other half since the country will be so happy with the Democrats for the benefits of these new programs, that Democrats are overwhelmingly elected in 2022 & 2024

[NutmegYankee]

32. I agree. We need to fix roads and bridges badly.

I want the safety net programs, but no safety net increases won’t kill me. A collapsed bridge just might.

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. They were actively whipping votes against the bill as of yesterday. Nt

[berni_mccoy]

6. So it was reported...

They do not always broadcast their moves the way you might expect

[brush]

11. The republicans? Against which bill?

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. Against the bipartisan infrastructure bill that is supposed to have a vote today. Nt

[qazplm135]

5. maybe but

only 34 Republicans voted to avert a shutdown so I would suggest to you if you can't vote to avoid a shutdown you probably ain't voting for the BIF.

So 34 is probably the ceiling of Republican support and if Progressives have 50+ against, my math tells me the bill fails by about 10-15 votes.

[Demsrule86]

15. Not passing the infrastructure bill would be a disaster for us in the midterms.

[qazplm135]

19. ok

so today is the last and only chance to pass it??

[StarfishSaver]

8. I'm pretty sure speaker Pelosi long ago calculated all of possibilities

both those that we can think of and plenty that never occurred to us.

[berni_mccoy]

10. Like she predicted Manchin and Sinema?

Their public behavior has already resulted in the delay and caving on multiple aspects of the bill.

That should have been easy for her to calculate.

And yet, somehow, she missed it.

[StarfishSaver]

17. Yes

No doubt considered Manchin's and Sinema's behavior as a possibility.

But since she's Speaker of the House and not Speaker of the Senate, she has no control over what they do.

But since some people on the internets think they understand her job, the playing field she's operating on, the players she's working with, and the calculations she should make better than the Speaker does, perhaps they should go to Washington and offer up their services.

[qazplm135]

24. politicians

have a job, and part of that job is answering to the people.

So saying shut up people you don't know the job so you can't question or criticize is the antithesis of democracy and pretty sure Pelosi herself wouldn't agree with your wide assertion to basically STFU unless you are the Speaker.

[StarfishSaver]

26. Putting words in people's mouth means you've lost the argument

Pointing out that people who condescendingly suggest they know how to conduct high stakes political gamesmanship better than the Speaker of the House most likely don't is not the same as telling them "to STFU."

But it's hardly surprising that being reminded of that fact sometimes provokes an overreaction.

[qazplm135]

27. lol

yeah no characterizations from you, nope, just the facts lol

Spoiler alert, she doesn't need your defense.

[StarfishSaver]

28. She needs advice from the internet even less ...

[qazplm135]

29. pretty sure nothing said here

is anything other than a group of people, ya know, talking.

[Budi]

22. She missed nothing. There were others who stomped their feet all along.

However, when it comes down to holding a vote, she will know who is with her before doing so.
R, L & in between.

[brush]

25. Don't underestimate the Speaker. Nothing has been brought to the floor yet.

She's still gauging if and when she will bring anything to the floor. She's not a fortune teller. Who can predict the whims of Sinema and the backtracking from months-earlier commitments of Manchin?

By promising to bring a vote today she's forcing a show of their hand and leaving an option for herself to pull the vote back.

[qazplm135]

23. She's not God

and she's not a computer.

She's already changed the date once, and it's unclear it's happening today even because this is fluid and things are moving.

Being a great speaker doesn't make her flawless or a living computer.

[Budi]

16. Appears there's plenty of Dems to split the Democrats..

Repubs just sit & wait to shore up the weak link.

Damned infuriating.

[WHITT]

18. According To Kevin

They've whipped against the BIF, and there will likely only be about 40 to 60 Repub defections. Jayapal sez there are at least 48 no Dem votes, and as many as 60 no Dem votes.

So unless Kevin is lying, which is a DISTINCT possibility, they won't have the votes. So does the Speaker pull it, or let it go down to make a POINT?

[Patton French]

31. Not likely..

..McCarthy is whipping votes against it.