Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Kyrsten Sinema?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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	Favorable
	2 (3%)
	Unfavorable
	63 (97%)
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[mucifer]

1. this is just silly

[live love laugh]

45. 💯

[Ninga]

2. I didn't come to unfavorable lightly. I've taken a bit of time to

research and read about her over the past several years.

[JohnSJ]

3. Lol

[Butterflylady]

4. I don't think she takes the job seriously.

[Trueblue1968]

20. she thinhks "she's ALL THAT" ... SHE acts like one of the girls in the movie MEAN GIRLS

And she acts just so hotsy totsy like the girls who were MEAN TO ME when i was in High School.
Turnabout, I WAS PRETTY, POPULAR AND REALLY COOL IN COLLEGE. I was also nice to every one.
People do change. I think blondie changed for the worst.

[Caliman73]

5. The Democratic Party is a big tent.

We have been used to having politicians who were Blue Dogs, ultra liberal, and even some lefties. There has always been a coalition that could make it work when they needed to.

The problem with Sinema seems to be that she is not operating in good faith. We know where Manchin stands. We know why he is opposed to the bills. We have a relatively good understanding of his state and the people that have allowed him to remain in his seat in a very deep red state. Not to say we like it, but we can understand it.

Sinema has told no one, what she wants, why she is tanking major Democratic Legislation, and she is mocking people. She is having secret meetings, basically caucusing with Republicans, and Democrats, including many progressives went to the mat to get her elected in purple Arizona. She is giving everybody the middle finger for no apparent reason. We know she has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from various big money groups, but that is more recent.

Like I said, she is not operating in good faith and not operating in good faith is something that only Republicans do.

[qazplm135]

8. The difference between the two

Is that I believe Manchin has set policy beliefs. He's been fairly consistent overall on what he's about.

Sinema has checked every block except Republican.

And I'm not convinced if she thought switching would guarantee her reelection that she wouldn't consider it

I disagree with Manchin, a lot, but he's basically what he's always been, a Reagan Democrat.

Sinema morphs like a jellyfish.

[Johonny]

38. I believe Joe might win re-election

She's got zero chance. She might lose a primary at this point. She's voted against everything she ran on.

Joe represents a very conservative state, Sinema ran as a liberal in a purple state. She's toast.

[wackadoo wabbit]

39. She's virtually assured of losing her primary now

I live in Arizona. Everyone I know voted for her. No one is planning to vote for her again.

[totodeinhere]

10. But we need her to stay in the Democratic Caucus.

If she crosses the isle the Biden agenda is dead. Of course it might be dead anyway if we can't get her to vote for it, but I would rather at least have the chance to convince her. And if we have to play hard ball with her that's okay as long as we don't push her too far. If the GOP were to take over the Senate there would be no convincing. It would be over.

[lagomorph777]

47. "We know where Manchin stands." - (i.e. in opposition to 77% of his constituents)

He stands with fossil fuel mongers.

[Caliman73]

48. True, according to that poll.

Polls are a good idea of what people think, not what they will do. Do you think that the people of West Virginia would support a Democrat that was more progressive? That would support President Biden's agenda fully? I mean, it would be great and nothing would make me happier than to see the bills go through, people's lives get better, and the scourge of conservatism be swept away for the foreseeable future. Problem is when people are presented with ideas, without attribution, they will typically choose more progressive ideas. When you put any price tag on it, or put a D or R next to the proposals, that is when people start changing their opinions. It is stupid and it sucks, but that is reality.

We know Manchin stands with the fossil fuel mongers. HE IS ONE. He personally make income from investments into a family business that deals in fossil fuels. How that is even legal while he holds a seat deciding on energy policy is beyond me.

[lagomorph777]

49. Manchin could make campaign ads about all the great stuff he is giving WV.

He doesn't have to say it's all Biden's idea.

Instead, he chooses to give sound bites about the sanctity of the Filibuster and the importance of helping rich people.

Which do you think would sell better?

[Caliman73]

51. Personally? or In reality?

From my own bias, I would say the "great stuff I am giving to WV residents". Realistically, you have seen people willing to die by not getting a vaccine against a preventable deadly disease to "own the libs". WV is an epicenter of that kind of thinking.

They care about red meat. How is Joe Manchin stopping the communists from invading WV. That is what they seem to respond to at the ballot box.

I would love to be wrong, but look at the history of voting in WV.

[lagomorph777]

53. Sigh. Likely true.

But Manchin seems more interested in cash than votes. Earmark/bribery is the most likely thing to work.

[Caliman73]

54. Unfortunately, you are right there too.

I told you that I am happy to be proven wrong. I do not like being cynical. I wish that Manchin would just go away and that someone, even a moderate would take his place.


It is hard to bribe a politician who is already being bribed, and who is personally making money from the industry that he defends.

I think Manchin sees that cash can bring votes. He is in a way stronger position in West Virginia than Sinema is in Arizona. I predict that Manchin will remain the Senator from WV for at least the next cycle, while Sinema will be out on her ass in 2025.

[Goonch]

6. OK

[Totally Tunsie]

11. Do we really need this on the DU site?

It seems inappropriate IMO.

[Polly Hennessey]

26. Inappropriate? How?

What is inappropriate? The poll or the caricature? We might know the results of the poll? So what. It means we have almost unambiguous unanimous agreement. What’s not to like. The caricature is spot on. Her deceitfulness oozes out of the picture.

[TheProle]

31. Purity tests never go out of style.

[cadoman]

42. agreed, Sinema will be in office till 2025!

This fight hurts now, but burning bridges with her is just gonna push her towards (I) or soft (R).

Sinema has a highly individualistic personality. You don't persuade that type of personality by asking it to fall in line, or to go along to get along. Those arguments are antithetical to its existence. If we threaten her she's just going to turn, because turning on a centralized force is the most appealing option for an individualist!

Find some way to get her involved in the process that turns her individualism from a liability into an asset.

EDIT: And just to prove a point. I voted "Approve" even though I don't approve of her. Individualists enjoy going against the grain, and are actually thrilled when the group shames them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. That's unnecessary.

[live love laugh]

46. What is unnecessary? nt

[totodeinhere]

7. The results of this poll at DU are a foregone conclusion.

And of course I voted "no." But what would be a more interesting poll would be to ask the voters of Arizona to take the poll.

[qazplm135]

9. Well

We have those numbers for Dems in AZ and it's barely double digit favorables.

[USAFRetired_Liberal]

12. And you don't win a general election without your base

She can’t make up the difference in Democratic voters who won’t vote for with Republican and independent voters who will.

[wackadoo wabbit]

40. That's especially true, given that Arizona Republicans will *never* vote for her, . . .

no matter what she does, as long as there's a D behind her name.

[USAFRetired_Liberal]

55. And she can't win with an R next to her name either

They wouldn’t vote for her in the Republican primary..she voted to impeach trump

[Celerity]

13. and I happen to have that for AZ Dems on Sinema: Favourable 17%, Unfavourable 65%

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/27/2054753/-Sinema-s-unforced-errors-have-cost-her-big-time-with-Arizona-Democrats

[totodeinhere]

21. Thanks. Very interesting. Not quite as unanimous as DU, but still good. n/t

[Celerity]

25. Well, there are some on here, I am sure, who would, in a secret ballot, vote favourable, but

they do not want the stick they might get.

[Totally Tunsie]

14. I chose "Pass" b/c this and its companion poll about

Joe Manchin are (IMO) walking a fine line towards breaking the DU rule about not bashing Democrats.

[Polly Hennessey]

30. They deserve our condemnation if they are

using their leverage to scuttle democratic efforts to pass legislation.

[budkin]

15. Are you kidding me? I want to see a single person here defend her. Just one!

Let's hear your argument.

[rso]

16. Sinema

Unfortunately, we’re stuck with her and Manchin. Our only way out is to pick up two Senate seats next year. With that said, based on the 50/50 Senate, I’d still rather have them than two GQPers.

[Trueblue1968]

17. i think she's horrible and also i think she is the worst DEM in the Senate.

[tenderfoot]

18. She's a snake in the grass

eom

[Skittles]

22. she is vile

absolutely disgusting

[Withywindle]

23. You can't see this online but

I did a cute, perky little bounce when I gave the thumbs-down.

[Celerity]

28. my wife likes my perky little bounce at times

[Polly Hennessey]

32. Perky little bounces can be fun.

[DURHAM D]

24. She needs professional help. nt

[iemanja]

27. What is a point of a poll that you already know the answer to?

[48656c6c6f20]

29. I cannot answer

For fear of the Manchin and Cinema police.

[NewHendoLib]

33. .

[bluewater]

34. Subtlety is a lost art form.

[Red Mountain]

35. she needs to go

[kairos12]

36. She is a Corporate Shill.

[Kang Colby]

37. Favorable

I said roughly the same thing in the Manchin thread, she’s a lot better than what we’d be getting without her….Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. We should encourage candidates like her and Manchin to run in places like the Dakotas, Montana, and even in the south.

[MustLoveBeagles]

41. Not a fan

And not surprised by the poll results.

[Trueblue1968]

44. i really like participating in polls

[MineralMan]

50. I voted unfavorable, but my opinion does not matter, actually.

I'm not a resident of Arizona and had nothing to do with her being elected by those who are.

That is the reality of the Senate. Between the Republicans who have been elected and the very few Democrats who are not team players, we're in a tight spot in that house of Congress. Our annoyance at one or two Senators is irrelevant, really. We must deal with the Senate as it is. Wishing it were different is a waste of our time at this point.

[dsp3000]

52. I understand Manchin. I don't understand Sinema

Manchin is operating in a DEEP RED state. He has to play this role in order to secure his political future in his state.
Sinema is no John Mccain. I don't see any republicans crossing the line to vote for her in a very evenly split state.