lake mead and lake powell are endanger of disappearing. Western states need to change

[Demovictory9]

[TexasTowelie]

1. I read that it may cost about $6 billion, but it does seem like a good investment

if a pipeline with pump stations could be constructed to transfer water from the Missouri river basin into the Colorado river basin. Any sediment that settles should be sent to the delta of Louisiana to build up the wetlands.

[cinematicdiversions]

2. Get out of here with your fancy future technology...

What do you think we are Ancient Rome?

[kysrsoze]

4. Seems like a bargain to me. It's that or desalination.

And desalination on the level needed would be VERY expensive.

[DFW]

9. VERY cheap compared to not doing it!

This was not just a foreseeable problem, but an already present problem whose urgency was already apparent five or more years ago.

[Klaralven]

16. How much "extra" water do you think the Missouri River has?

My recollection is that some years there are problems with river shipping due to low water.

Missouri River -- "Too thick to swim in; too thin to plow."

[hunter]

17. Sure. And we could power the project with natural gas and make global warming worse!

Everybody profits!

Well, at least those who sell the gas...

But that's not going to happen.

Rather, the largest users of subsidized Colorado River water are going to be in for a rude shock when urban users decide they no longer want to support the traditional lifestyles of Western farmers.

For example, it's a lot easier to transport soybeans for soy milk over the mile-high Continental Divide than it is to transport immensely greater volumes of water for the factory farm dairy industry.

Urban users, especially at the lower elevations of the Colorado River, can easily afford expensive water from desalinization and sewage recycling projects. Farmers can't.

[fescuerescue]

19. $6b is cheap, but the question is who pays?

areas along the Missouri? California which uses most of the water? Nevada where it's short?

Probably missing a few other stakeholders.

Just getting agreement on who pays will take a decade.

[kysrsoze]

3. Maybe we don't need oodles of green grass here in the desert.

[TexasTowelie]

5. I agree that oodles of green grass are not necessary

and for instances where it is necessary such as golf courses it should require reclaimed water. However, diverted water could be very useful for irrigation and household uses. This doesn't seem like a problem that will resolve itself, so being to redistribute water, as well as other resources is a wise economic and national security move.

[marble falls]

8. It drove me nuts in AZ. All those people who came for allergy relief brought all the grass, trees ..

... etc that gave them their allergies to begin with.

[Demovictory9]

7. there is a new city in Utah dessert... sucking up water for houses with green lawns and golf courses

Americans are so accustomed to a green lawn = home.

I wish I could find the youtube about this town.

[TexasTowelie]

10. It's probably St. George.

Over 100,000 people in the middle of the desert. Retiree destination.

[Demovictory9]

11. oh you are good!!! they use the county name "washington county" in the video.. here it is

[TexasTowelie]

12. Posting in the state groups for the past five years has imparted a lot of knowledge to me.

I've learned so much about politics, history, and geography that it somewhat makes up for avoiding those classes when I was an undergraduate. I always liked those subjects, but I procrastinated when starting writing assignments so I didn't believe those were wise selections for a major.

What is really odd is that a lot of material that I post does soak through and I can recall posting threads about an event or person several years ago. Now if I could only remember where I left the keys.

[Demovictory9]

18. Thank u for being repository of info

[RandomNumbers]

22. Maybe don't need Las Vegas

(as currently constructed that is)

Maybe don't need 10 billion people on a planet that is probably not sustainable for 7 billion.

Maybe it's time to stop forcing people to have babies they don't want to have.

Maybe it's time to figure out how to use the productivity and expertise of older workers rather than lamenting (stupidly) the "birth dearth".

And to your point, maybe we should be promoting ecosystem-appropriate landscaping everywhere. I.e. we don't need oodles of green grass pretty much anywhere.

[marble falls]

6. Glen Canyon Dam needs dismantling.

[Thunderbeast]

14. WHERE'S Hayduke and Seldom Seen?

The Monkey Wrench Gang was way ahead of it's time.

[marble falls]

15. Abbey wrote a good'un, dint he.

[Budi]

13. Perfect time to start mining that Nevada Lithium!

The lithium extraction process uses a lot of water—approximately 500,000 gallons per metric ton of lithium. To extract lithium, miners drill a hole in salt flats and pump salty, mineral-rich brine to the surface. Nov 12, 2020

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-environmental-impact-of-lithium-batteries/%3famp=1

[jalan48]

20. Is dimwit Krysten listening?

[Demovictory9]

21. no shes out buying a brightly colored dress