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Fri Oct 1, 2021, 08:04 AM

It looks like the military-industrial complex is ramping up it's propaganda

How many editorials and articles have we seen about the price tag for the reconciliation bill being far too high? Never mind we spend over twice that amount on the military and no one is questioning its exorbitantly high price tag. Funny how that works.

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Reply It looks like the military-industrial complex is ramping up it's propaganda (Original post)
dlk Oct 2021 OP
WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #1
Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #5
WHITT Oct 2021 #2
Chin music Oct 2021 #4
dlk Oct 2021 #3
Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #6
dlk Oct 2021 #7
Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #9
dlk Oct 2021 #10
former9thward Oct 2021 #20
Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #21
former9thward Oct 2021 #22
2naSalit Oct 2021 #8
dlk Oct 2021 #11
2naSalit Oct 2021 #12
dlk Oct 2021 #13
2naSalit Oct 2021 #14
dlk Oct 2021 #15
2naSalit Oct 2021 #19
BeckyDem Oct 2021 #17
BeckyDem Oct 2021 #16
crickets Oct 2021 #23
dlk Oct 2021 #18

Response to dlk (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 08:12 AM

1. "How are we going to pay for it??" is a question that doesn't apply to military expenses.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 08:39 AM

5. Or to tax cuts for the rich.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 08:16 AM

2. Big Difference

The reconciliation legislation is PAID FOR.

Instead of saying the reconciliation bill will cost $3.5 Trillion, it should be the reconciliation bill will cost $0.00.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 08:55 AM

6. That seems perplexing to us

Most people have been propagandized to believe that any reduction in military spending makes us "weak" and inviting of our destruction. How many times have Democrats tried to cut military spending only to have Republicans get all worked up.

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Response to Mad_Machine76 (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:56 AM

7. The conversations around military spending aren't always rational

When so much money is involved…

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Response to dlk (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:12 AM

9. Right

Not rational either when people are always stoked up on fear and "American Exceptionalism"

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Response to Mad_Machine76 (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:31 AM

10. Propaganda works

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Response to Mad_Machine76 (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:37 PM

20. OK, I'll bite.

How many times have Democratic leaders tried to cut military spending? I am not aware of any.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 05:13 PM

21. Weren't some bases shut down under Clinton?

We didn't have any sustained military conflicts under him either. Not that it was really true, but remember how W. Bush's 2000 campaign claimed that Clinton had "gutted" the military. Iraq ended under Obama. I don't remember either of them advocating for huge increases in the military budget either. But maybe I'm misremembering. I'll also add that worship of the military and propaganda about military spending also affects Democrats too.

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Response to Mad_Machine76 (Reply #21)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:22 PM

22. Well the military budget generally has gone up with presidents of both parties.

On Iraq, we are still there. Obama tried to pull out and then put troops back in. The Iraq government has ordered us out and so we are supposed to be out by December 31 of this year. Hopefully we will be.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:11 AM

8. And now that our President has...

Essentially killed their cash cow in Afghanistan, it's war on Biden for starting the process of bringing the military back to some form of reasonableness. They like their corruption, damnit, and they will go after anyone who threatens it.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:36 AM

11. Exactly

As with so many things in life, it’s all about the money.

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Response to dlk (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:38 AM

12. Because it brings about control over others.

The primary purpose of acquiring wealth.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:59 AM

13. It's about being able to act with impunity without any accountability

Rebelling against any regulation is about not being held accountable.

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Response to dlk (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:07 AM

14. Well, yeah...

I knew my simple statement would be inadequate in describing the breadth and depth of the issue.

It's definitely the accountability thing also, emboldened by the tax-free status.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 12:15 PM

15. You were exactly right

Republicans want their own special version of an aristocracy.

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Response to dlk (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 04:24 PM

19. Yup.

I was looking for that word just the other day and it escaped me! Aristocracy. Indeed.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 12:28 PM

17. +1!!!

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 12:27 PM

16. Cori Bush @CoriBush: For half the cost of our annual military budget, we can have

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Response to BeckyDem (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:13 PM

23. 👆👆

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Fri Oct 1, 2021, 02:16 PM

18. Bush gets to the heart of the matter

NT

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