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dlk

(11,552 posts)
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:04 AM Oct 2021

It looks like the military-industrial complex is ramping up it's propaganda

How many editorials and articles have we seen about the price tag for the reconciliation bill being far too high? Never mind we spend over twice that amount on the military and no one is questioning its exorbitantly high price tag. Funny how that works.

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It looks like the military-industrial complex is ramping up it's propaganda (Original Post) dlk Oct 2021 OP
"How are we going to pay for it??" is a question that doesn't apply to military expenses. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #1
Or to tax cuts for the rich. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #5
Big Difference WHITT Oct 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author dlk Oct 2021 #3
That seems perplexing to us Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #6
The conversations around military spending aren't always rational dlk Oct 2021 #7
Right Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #9
Propaganda works dlk Oct 2021 #10
OK, I'll bite. former9thward Oct 2021 #20
Weren't some bases shut down under Clinton? Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #21
Well the military budget generally has gone up with presidents of both parties. former9thward Oct 2021 #22
And now that our President has... 2naSalit Oct 2021 #8
Exactly dlk Oct 2021 #11
Because it brings about control over others. 2naSalit Oct 2021 #12
It's about being able to act with impunity without any accountability dlk Oct 2021 #13
Well, yeah... 2naSalit Oct 2021 #14
You were exactly right dlk Oct 2021 #15
Yup. 2naSalit Oct 2021 #19
+1!!! BeckyDem Oct 2021 #17
Cori Bush @CoriBush: For half the cost of our annual military budget, we can have BeckyDem Oct 2021 #16
👆👆 crickets Oct 2021 #23
Bush gets to the heart of the matter dlk Oct 2021 #18

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
2. Big Difference
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:16 AM
Oct 2021

The reconciliation legislation is PAID FOR.

Instead of saying the reconciliation bill will cost $3.5 Trillion, it should be the reconciliation bill will cost $0.00.

Response to WHITT (Reply #2)

Response to dlk (Original post)

Mad_Machine76

(24,406 posts)
6. That seems perplexing to us
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:55 AM
Oct 2021

Most people have been propagandized to believe that any reduction in military spending makes us "weak" and inviting of our destruction. How many times have Democrats tried to cut military spending only to have Republicans get all worked up.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
7. The conversations around military spending aren't always rational
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 10:56 AM
Oct 2021

When so much money is involved…

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
20. OK, I'll bite.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 05:37 PM
Oct 2021

How many times have Democratic leaders tried to cut military spending? I am not aware of any.

Mad_Machine76

(24,406 posts)
21. Weren't some bases shut down under Clinton?
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 06:13 PM
Oct 2021

We didn't have any sustained military conflicts under him either. Not that it was really true, but remember how W. Bush's 2000 campaign claimed that Clinton had "gutted" the military. Iraq ended under Obama. I don't remember either of them advocating for huge increases in the military budget either. But maybe I'm misremembering. I'll also add that worship of the military and propaganda about military spending also affects Democrats too.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
22. Well the military budget generally has gone up with presidents of both parties.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:22 PM
Oct 2021

On Iraq, we are still there. Obama tried to pull out and then put troops back in. The Iraq government has ordered us out and so we are supposed to be out by December 31 of this year. Hopefully we will be.

2naSalit

(86,537 posts)
8. And now that our President has...
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:11 AM
Oct 2021

Essentially killed their cash cow in Afghanistan, it's war on Biden for starting the process of bringing the military back to some form of reasonableness. They like their corruption, damnit, and they will go after anyone who threatens it.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
13. It's about being able to act with impunity without any accountability
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 11:59 AM
Oct 2021

Rebelling against any regulation is about not being held accountable.

2naSalit

(86,537 posts)
14. Well, yeah...
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 12:07 PM
Oct 2021

I knew my simple statement would be inadequate in describing the breadth and depth of the issue.

It's definitely the accountability thing also, emboldened by the tax-free status.

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