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MeidasTouch.com @MeidasTouchVaccine mandates are making teachers who don't believe in science quit, nurses who don't believe in medicine resign, and police officers who don't believe in public safety retire.
I call that a great side effect.
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Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)markie
(22,756 posts)we don't need, WE SHOULD WEED OUT, teachers who don't believe in science, nurses who don't believe in modern medicine and police who don't believe in public safety... best for the future of our Country
spanone
(135,830 posts)Tetrachloride
(7,839 posts)compared to more resignations.
The Red Team fears success of Blue Team. So i am happier to see vaccinations more than Red Team effects.
ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)That's the intended effect.
Those that still won't get vaxxed are problems that the side effect eliminates.
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)Yes very good.
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)take the vaccine. As a nurse, I am not surprised.
I worked with nurses just like this. Although in the minority, they exist. Some Ive worked with, only became nurses because they thought it offered stable and decent income. They didnt care about the science. Some got through school by rote memorization. They never learned or developed the art and critical thinking skills required to be be competent nurses. Again, these folks are in the minority, most of the nurses Ive worked with are phenomenal.
wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Nurses are amazing people. We always think of doctors as important, and they are. But nurses are the ones taking care of you 24/7. ICU nurses saved my life.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)Most of us science grad students payed our their degrees as teaching assistants for the various science labs. Just about all of us in the Biology Dept. did at least one round of Human Anatomy or Human Physiology, which were both requisites for nursing students. A friend of mine regularly did the Physiology labs. He would get nightmares of being in the ER after being in a car wreck, with one of his nursing students standing over him with a syringe, muttering, "Now, is 0.1 ml more than 0.05 ml, or less than?" I'm hoping the ones who were that dumb never made out with a degree, other than the "Mrs." degree that many of them were really after. But, like you, I know a whole lot of awesome nurses. That included my mom.
And, to be fair, I don't know how much of the "dumb" was actually a reflection of Georgia's lousy K-12 education system back then. I don't know if it has improved much over the past 30 years...
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Imaging departments rife with anti-vaxxers is exactly why my specialty is wide open right now. Even relatively brief instruction on antiseptic practice and sterile procedures, so basic, so "first day" instruction, truly makes me wonder how some "practicing" techs ever got through school. I've been so long fed up with those who dismiss the most basic of medical antisepsis as "optional", gee, I hope the door doesn't hit them on the way out.
The ilk that has these idiotic tendencies also were some of the biggest troublemakers I've ever had the displeasure to work with.
Perhaps they can all get jobs at some facility with loosey-goosey practices-- certainly would be someplace I wouldn't send my DOG to for care.
I'll be back on the "front lines" here in a couple weeks. I've made certain I got my booster on board first.
NJCher
(35,662 posts)Only became teachers because they couldn't figure out what they wanted to do. They were familiar with the job of teacher, having gone through grade school, high school, etc.
soldierant
(6,857 posts)"I want to teach," isn't there. And it shows. Too bad that isn't part of the screening process. And there are other professions where comparable distinctions could also be made.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)That was months ago, so I don't know how many came around.
It just makes no sense to me when they're watching people die at arms length and still won't accept reality. That tells you how powerful their religion is, because this is largely a religious indoctrination problem, whether anyone admits it, or not.
cab67
(2,992 posts)Ive always had mixed feelings about education majors. When I was a t.a., it seemed that for every ed major who was passionate about teaching, there were two who either washed out of some other major or picked it by default. I hoped beyond hope the latter types never became teachers.
Fast forward to my first semester on tenure track. I was teaching a vertebrate diversity and paleontology course. On the very first day, I announced that the entire course would be framed around an evolutionary family tree (phylogeny in fancyspeak) of vertebrates.
Just before the second class session began, a science ed major - not just any education major, mind you, but a science education major - approached me with a drop slip.
As I signed it, she muttered under her breath, this wasnt what I expected.
I was curious. What were you expecting?
She hesitated. Um
something less, well, evolutionary.
I had no reply.
And the punch line? The courses title was (and still is) Evolution of the Vertebrates.
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)I could never figure that out about ed majors - why would you want to take endless methods and pedagogy courses and possibly never take college level subject matter in what you wanted to teach in lower levels of education?
They did not seem like curious minds to me.
I thought I wanted to teach history at high school level when I went to college. Then discovered I did not have to take a SINGLE class from the History Department. I thought, weird, never mind. And I told the advisor too that it seemed weird to me.
I realized I had to be a liberal arts major.
Maybe things have improved in this respect. I hope.
Traildogbob
(8,731 posts)Made my day. I had a co-faculty member that taught Wildlife Science at the college, had a masters in Wildlife Management from Tennessee. Now is back there as program manager and lead instructor. 100 percent believes every single species in the Animal Kingdom was on the Ark. He loved Bush, hated Obama, Christian. He and I bickered about Bush non stop. Thank God I retired, he took Tennessee job in 2012. Certain he bought trumps Jesus platform.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)pain, so they'll do anything to maintain it, including die.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)I was already vaccinated in Spring, but now my company has extended the mandate to everyone worldwide. Get vaxxed or provide a medical exemption by end of October or be terminated. This is so good.
Everything is better with fewer RW extremists around
wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Plus everyone else can feel safer at the places where they used to work
Liberty Belle
(9,535 posts)The issue of racial justice came up and he was trying to justify what happened to George Floyd.
He's not vaccinated, and may soon face losing his job if he doesn't roll up the sleeve. We're better off without officers who think killing someone for maybe passing a bad bill is okay.
Martin68
(22,794 posts)Roc2020
(1,615 posts)Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)niyad
(113,284 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... by the same method. Mandatory vaccination or regular frequent testing. Otherwise take a hike. Don't bother applying for work here if you aren't already vaccinated. This is happening more and more because companies should not be required to pay the higher liability costs for unvaccinated employees.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)After all I haven't had a good date with a man in so very, very long.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)Aussie105
(5,387 posts)Good one!
lark
(23,097 posts)If Regeneron hadn't come along for them to profiteer off of, and that drove them to try to make people sick so they would use this right wing asshole' product, what would they have done? I think the Regeneron was a great feature for them, get millions of people sick & profit from their treatment, and it actually works. I'm guessing they would have just stuck to the hydroxychloroquine and invermectin killers and not changed anything about their mask idiocy. They still want to kill off the working class, not caring tht they are killing more of them than us. We don't matter anymore with states having policies that their legislature just gets to kick all Democratic winners to the door so how we vote doesn't concern them. They intend to steal enough races to overturn our countries will and to steal the working classes money, starting with social security, medicare and medicaid.
I see it as a great way to cull the dim witted and folks with a malfunctioning judgment processes.
NJCher
(35,662 posts)for the best side effect.
Something just doesn't compute for these people.
dchill
(38,482 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)MyMission
(1,850 posts)And may their refusal to be vaccinated remove them from jobs they shouldn't hold.
I saw an interesting story about a nurse who refuses to get vaccinated, claiming she is advocating, as she was tought, for patients rights to decide their own treatment and care. She was protesting outside the hospital that she will be leaving because of the mandate. She didn't acknowledge the public health risk, which is what a lot of these selfish antivaxers don't do either.
That risk can and does supercede individual choice. And when covid hits their friends and family some change their tune, advocate for the vaccine. But many just consider it God's plan, another angel watching them from heaven.
Mandates will hopefully force many to get vaccinated, but they will also "force" those who refuse to leave their jobs, which is a great side effect.
StClone
(11,683 posts)...are like Life Guards who don't believe in swimming.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)I just cant wrap my brain around the idea of ANY health-related professional NOT getting a COVID vaccine! I bet they all did get shots for flu and polio and any other vaccinations that have come along.
Shermann
(7,413 posts)calimary
(81,238 posts)Im sorry, but youre just totally pathetic. That makes you a CERTIFIED loser.
womanofthehills
(8,702 posts)This is allowed in Europe for a vaxx passport. New studies coming out saying natural antibodies are long lasting and might even be superior. Many nurses risked their life early on when we knew little about the virus. Those that have natural antibodies from this time want the government to recognize this.
Its okay to have an incorrect scientific hypothesis. But when new data proves it wrong, you have to adapt. Unfortunately, many elected leaders and public health officials have held on far too long to the hypothesis that natural immunity offers unreliable protection against covid-19 a contention that is being rapidly debunked by science.
More than 15 studies have demonstrated the power of immunity acquired by previously having the virus. A 700,000-person study from Israel two weeks ago found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic covid infection than those who were vaccinated. This affirmed a June Cleveland Clinic study of health-care workers (who are often exposed to the virus), in which none who had previously tested positive for the coronavirus got reinfected. The study authors concluded that individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from covid-19 vaccination. And in May, a Washington University study found that even a mild covid infection resulted in long-lasting immunity.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/
jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)Mister Ed
(5,930 posts)Ka-Dinh Oy
(11,686 posts)Response to bigtree (Original post)
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FreeState
(10,572 posts)While I agree I find the framing problematic.
teachers quit
nurses resign
police officers retire
Seriously? Thats some bs bias right there.