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Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:04 PM

I'm in a bit of a pickle...

My mother is severally ill in Phoenix. Iím living in the middle of the UK. Iím a Michigan Expat.

Iím not sure sheís going to make it. Gout, Bone infection, Kidney failureÖ its not looking good.

My wife and I have had both Astra Zeneca jabs. Unfortunately, the US doesnít recognize it.

If I travel back, Iíll be forced into quarantine for 7 to 10 days.

She might die between now and then

Is there anyway possible to obtain a medical pass to avoid a quarantine?

Do I need to write my congress-person or senator?

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Kindest regards to allÖ

Joe.

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Reply I'm in a bit of a pickle... (Original post)
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 OP
Eliot Rosewater Oct 2 #1
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #2
Eliot Rosewater Oct 2 #3
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #5
brer cat Oct 2 #4
Bayard Oct 2 #6
VarryOn Oct 2 #9
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #11
VarryOn Oct 2 #14
lisa58 Oct 2 #7
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #10
leighbythesea2 Oct 2 #8
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #12
IbogaProject Oct 2 #13
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #17
LakeArenal Oct 2 #15
Totally Tunsie Oct 2 #16
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #18
Dorian Gray Oct 2 #30
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #19
Irish_Dem Oct 2 #20
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #21
Irish_Dem Oct 2 #23
Klaralven Oct 2 #22
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #24
Klaralven Oct 2 #25
localroger Oct 2 #26
Klaralven Oct 2 #27
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #28
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #29
monkeyman1 Oct 2 #31
Layzeebeaver Oct 2 #32
marble falls Oct 2 #33
monkeyman1 Oct 2 #34
Hekate Oct 2 #35
DFW Oct 3 #36

Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:07 PM

1. No idea other than calling your congressperson? Or the congressperson of your mother's district?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:08 PM

2. Thanks, I'm already planning on that now...

Based on your recommendation!!!

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:10 PM

3. Good luck!

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:13 PM

5. Thank You!

I'll keep you posted.

Having people like you rooting for us does help.

A most sincere thank you!

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:12 PM

4. I'm so sorry.

You don't need a hassle at this time. I hope it is all straighted out quickly.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:14 PM

6. I'd call Mark Kelly's office

Don't bother with Sinema.

Hope you make it back in time.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:23 PM

9. I'd call both, notwitstanding our issues with one...

Cover all your bases.

If you're Catholic, I'd reach out to the Archdiocese of Phoenix.

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Response to VarryOn (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:30 PM

11. As an atheist...

I'll try anything...

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:37 PM

14. You should...

You may find them helpful. They carry sway in AZ politics, rightly or wrongly. I'd even consider reaching out to the Mormons, considering the location. There're people who have the power to help; you just have to find them.

Sadly, it's how the game is played. Good luck!

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:17 PM

7. Really??? Two friends from Europe flew in this summer...

To New York Öboth vaccinated with astra Zeneca- has something changed???

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Response to lisa58 (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:29 PM

10. we are not sure

the kink is that my wife is British/Dutch.

I'm not sure of how its all currently administered.

We are still in the midst of figuring it out.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:21 PM

8. I don't know

But K & R for visibility. I hope you can find a way.

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Response to leighbythesea2 (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:31 PM

12. Thanks! and greatly appreciated,

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:32 PM

13. Here is a solid resource from the American Embassy in the UK

Here is a solid resource from the American Embassy in the UK

https://uk.usembassy.gov/visas/u-s-visa-and-travel-faqs/

It appears you only need a negative test close to travel, and maybe a few follow up tests while in the usa. There should be some kind of compassionate exemption to check in on mom. You might not be permitted to bar hop, but that would be crazy given the current crisis in the USA.

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Response to IbogaProject (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:53 PM

17. Thanks, but its not so solid for Arizona.

The AZ website says nothing about our situation.

Its kind of useless - from my initial check.

And the federal site just redirects to AZ.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:42 PM

15. Good luck. Too many are missing a loved one's last moments.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:49 PM

16. My son's family moved back to the U.S. from Sweden in July

without having any COVID vaccinations at all since they didn't want the A-Z. They just needed a negative COVID test within 72 hours of their flight. No quarantine upon arrival. The first thing they did when landing here was to get their Pfizers.

Good luck in your quest, and better health wished to your mom.

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:55 PM

18. Thank you!

We are continuing the quest! We will need to figure this all out prior to booking any thing...

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:04 PM

30. This may sound counter-intutitve

but reach out to a travel agent. They are up on all requirements and can help you figure this out. You may have to pay a fee, but usually it's $250 to book tickets. (Which is a lot, but with your emergency situation, it seems like a good idea.)

Having said that, i would be surprised if we didn't accept A-Z as an acceptible vaccine. It's so widely used, and they even did testing here in the USA for it.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 06:57 PM

19. Thank you to all so far...

We are looking into all options at the moment.

I'll keep you all posted as things progress...

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:07 PM

20. I know from personal experience that a senator's office can put a flag on international travel

emergencies.

In my case, within a few hours of getting the senator's flag on my files and case, I got overnight delivery of documents allowing me to travel right away. It was amazing.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #20)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:19 PM

21. thanks for that.

We will investigate that.

its a good reference.

Hopefully Kelly's admin team will help out.

We will keep everyone updated here in this thread.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:21 PM

23. Good luck, hope you can get a senator flag on your case.

Or some sort of help.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:19 PM

22. TRAVEL ADVISORIES & TIPS


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) requires all air passengers entering the U.S. to present a negative COVID-19 test, taken within three days of international departure. There are no current travel restrictions or quarantine mandates for individuals visiting Arizona from other U.S. states. Click below to see travel tips and information for visitors and specific regions within Arizona.


https://www.visitarizona.com/covid-19/covid-19-updates/

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #22)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:25 PM

24. they say...

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, foreign nationals who have been in any of the following countries during the past 14 days may not enter the United States*:

China
Iran
European Schengen Area (Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City)
United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland)
Republic of Ireland
Brazil
South Africa
India
...

that does not seem good.

My wife and I can't travel together.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:28 PM

25. Aren't you a citizen of the US and not a foreign national?

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:41 PM

26. It depends. There is a lot of racism in the system.

My brother in law married a Malaysian and it took over ten years for them to get the government to acknowledge their marriage and officially acknowledge her US citizenship.

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Response to localroger (Reply #26)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:44 PM

27. But he'a a "Michigan expat". Normally that would be a US citizen from Michigan living abroad

with a US passport?

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Response to Klaralven (Reply #27)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:51 PM

28. I'm a Michigander

But even still itís confusing.

Give me a day to figure that out.

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 07:56 PM

29. Thanks to all.

Iíll keep all informed here as we push forward.
Give us a few daysÖ

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:08 PM

31. Secretary of State could answer that in about 10 sec & CDC !

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Response to monkeyman1 (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:11 PM

32. not sure I have that connection...

but happy to have someone give me an inside track...

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:16 PM

33. I'd try the US Embassy or the US Consulate, too.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #33)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:21 PM

34. had a brain fart & forgot that ! ooop's !

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:25 PM

35. KnR for visibility, and best of luck

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Response to Layzeebeaver (Original post)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:44 AM

36. If you are a US citizen, your UK/EU spouse may travel with you

You need the negative PCR tests less than 72 hours old. You must also bring a copy of your marriage certificate to the airport of departure. But foreign spouses have been exempted from the travel ban all along (read the fine print), as long as they accompany their American spouses. They do not even need to return together, but get a new test before you leave to go back.

My wife is a German citizen, and has been allowed to accompany me back fo the USA all three times I have been back since the summer of 2020.

There nonstop flights from London to Phoenix on British Airways, so you can land near where you have to be.

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