I lost a family member to gun violence this weekend

[tulipsandroses]

Still numb from hearing the news. He didn’t even live to see 30. What happened to fist fighting? Apparently he was killed by his new girlfriend’s either ex/other boyfriend. Not sure of the details on that yet. So senseless.
His mother is devastated, of course. He died in NY. She lives in FL. Getting on a flight to claim your child’s body should not be something any parent has to go through. Parents are not supposed to bury their children.
When will our government do something??? I don’t know it for a fact but I am willing to bet this was not a legal firearm. This happened in NYC.
Apparently ghost guns are contributing to the huge uptick in violent crimes. You can just order parts online and make a DIY gun at home. What is wrong with this country?

[vercetti2021]

1. I'm sorry for your loss

What the fuck

[maxsolomon]

2. The 2nd Amendment is part of what is wrong.

It has resulted in the most heavily armed populace in history. More guns, more shootings.

[marybourg]

12. The Second Amendment is not the problem.

The Supreme Court’s interpretation of it is.

[Jerry2144]

14. It is exactly the problem

The poor writing of 2nd amendment is the problem, in addition to an activist SCOTUS. A well-regulated militia means a well-practiced and trained militia sanctioned by the state. Being necessary to the security of a free state means that a militia is necessary to protect from slave rebellions, from native American uprisings, and from attack from outsiders. This was needed before we created a standing military and should have been tossed out when slavery was abolished.

You want to keep a muzzle-loader, a revolver, or a pump/lever/bolts action weapon - then OK, that is within the bounds of the intent of the 2nd amendment. But you want to keep a weapon of war, a weapon that can pump out more than one round per minute, or is not practical for hunting, protecting against wild-life (wolves, bears, etc.) then you better be trained, have your weapon registered, and be subject to a thorough background check. Otherwise no mega-death for you.

Most of these "pro-second amendment" men with their high-caliber, PP X-10-DRs or PNS N-large-rs (sound them out) and multi-round clips would not last 5 seconds against the BSA, let alone our modern, militarized police or any true military force. They just choose to ignore the more important clause of the amendment and the history behind it. This is yet another grain of sand on the beach of reasons to teach a true, unvarnished, unbiased history of this nation.

[former9thward]

20. Almost all killings take place with the weapons you say are OK.

Very, very few happen with what you are calling "high caliber" weapons. Your version of the intent of the 2nd amendment is very strange. If we follow your logic then the 1st amendment goes out the window also. The founders never wrote the 1st with the "intention" of the internet or any other modern methods of communication. So I guess we go back to quills and ink pots.

[wnylib]

25. The history of the 2nd amendment that you are

objecting to is accurate. Throughout colonial times, during the Revolution, and for decades afterward, communities protected themselves from raids by Native tribes and from Native alliances with other nations (France, especially) by forming local militias. They also protected themselves from wild animals with their home-owned guns.

Since every family had at least one gun, people who joined militias were expected to provide their own weapons when they gathered for training. During genealogical tracing of my colonial ancestors, I found that several of them had been soldiers and officers in colonial and Revolutionary militias.

That is what the phrase in the 2nd amendment refers to when it says, "A well-regulated militia being necessary ..." It was necessary for households to maintain firearms and ammunition in order to join militias and be ready when called to action.

With the modern National Guard, that is no longer necessary. But, people who want to hunt or protect themselves from animals, particularly people in rural areas, should be allowed to own guns. But for the safety of society, gun ownership needs to be regulated.

[uponit7771]

15. THIS !!!!

[maxsolomon]

30. We disagree, but I understand your point.

Heller v DC.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/john-paul-stevens-court-failed-gun-control/587272/

Firearms were profligate prior to that decision, but now it is off the charts.

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Sickening, isn't it. Condolences

[liberalmuse]

4. It's so senseless.

I'm sorry you and your loved ones have to deal with this horrible tragedy. All so a bunch of people can fetishize and play with guns. All these guns floating around make it too easy to just shoot someone rather than have any kind of discussion to try and resolve any differences.

[okaawhatever]

5. I am so sorry for your loss. Senseless death. Tragic. Hugs for you and yours, nt

[blm]

6. 😢

[iemanja]

7. What a tragic loss

I'm so sorry.

[Danmel]

8. New york passed Legislation to ban ghost guns this seszion

https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/anna-m-kaplan/new-york-state-legislature-passes-nations-toughest

[Walleye]

9. What happened to fist fighting indeed?

Is it just ordinary cowardice?I have often asked that. You end up with a good work out and years later you can look back on it and laugh. A gun fight seems very unsatisfying way too permanent. I am so sorry you had to experience this in your family

[Demobrat]

13. I have wondered about this for so long.

I grew up in a somewhat rough part of Chicago where fighting was an inescapable part of growing up, even for a bookish little girl like me.

The worst that happened was somebody got a bloody nose.

This - what happened to this young man



It’s just so wrong. The person who did it should never be allowed to be part of society again.

But we know how that goes.

It’s just so awful. So sorry.

[MustLoveBeagles]

10. I'm sorry for your loss

[SheltieLover]

11. Deepest condolences

[Phoenix61]

16. I'm so sorry. nt

[niyad]

17. so very sorry for your loss. May you and yours find peace and comfort.

[brer cat]

18. I'm very sorry for your loss.

Such a senseless tragedy must be horrific for the family to comprehend and accept.

[SYFROYH]

19. My condolences.

[Ilsa]

21. I'm so sorry.

[cate94]

22. I'm sorry

[StevieM]

23. My deepest condolences for your loss. (eom)

[spanone]

24. After Sandy Hook, I knew American politicians cared more about guns than children

I'm still sickened to know that not a thing changed

so sorry....

[wnylib]

26. Yes, the aftermath of Sandy Hook

was soul crushingly sad. When it became obvious that even the deaths of elementary children did not move people enough to address the gun problem, I was depressed.

[wnylib]

27. My heartfelt condolences to you

and your family for this senseless death.

[tulipsandroses]

28. Thank you all for your kind words

It is much appreciated.

[Withywindle]

29. I am so, so sorry for your loss

[Stuart G]

31. Sorry for your loss