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CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:08 AM Oct 2021

NYT Opinion: The Supreme Court Has Gone Off the Rails

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/opinion/supreme-court-conservatives.html

By Donald Ayer
Mr. Ayer was a U.S. attorney and principal deputy solicitor general in the Reagan administration and deputy attorney general in the George H.W. Bush administration.


. . .

As the court begins a new term, regrettably, its recent history suggests that it lacks a majority of justices with sufficient concern about the basic continuity and integrity of the law or the ability of government to function.

The evidence has been growing quietly in recent years — and then, last summer, quite loudly, when the court decided to twiddle its thumbs while Texas enacted an abortion law that practically bans nearly all procedures while evading timely judicial review.

. . .

The Reagan revolution pitted itself against “activist” judges who were seen as following personal whims by altering the law and creating rights not found in the Constitution. Through interpretive tools like textualism and originalism, the Reagan lawyers sought to make the law more predictable and steady — as articulated by John Roberts, the job of justices was “to call balls and strikes, and not to pitch or bat.”

That revolution, however, has morphed into what it was meant to curtail, as the expanding right-wing majority on the Supreme Court has relied on an array of innovative constitutional rights to undermine traditional governmental actions while discarding longstanding precedents with which they disagree.

In the highest-profile case of the court’s new term, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health, the conservative justices may be ready to repeal the constitutional right to abortion
.

At the same time it seems ready to cast aside certain constitutional rights, the court today regularly gives sweeping new interpretations to other rights and invokes them to radically narrow certain government powers that were until quite recently uncontroversial, including, for example, powers related to public safety or our democratic process. . .
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NYT Opinion: The Supreme Court Has Gone Off the Rails (Original Post) CousinIT Oct 2021 OP
AHA, First Monday in October, Supremes in Session. elleng Oct 2021 #1
It all began with Reagan orangecrush Oct 2021 #2
his biggest accomplishment- 'spin' became something besides lies. mopinko Oct 2021 #3
George Bush Sr. orangecrush Oct 2021 #17
I believe you are correct. A very multi-pronged attack over 4 decades. Paydirt. n/t Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #21
Thanks orangecrush Oct 2021 #23
It was revealing when the tea party, formed as a response to the 2008 financial meltdown and Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #24
Spot on. orangecrush Oct 2021 #26
I wonder if I'd be happier not ever knowing any of this? So many citizens have zero interest. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #30
Yet another example of people who participated in wrecking this country trying to separate WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #4
The Gang Of Six WHITT Oct 2021 #5
It has become on the Right what it sought to prevent from the Left bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #6
Illegitimate presidents appoint illegitimate judges. Period. czarjak Oct 2021 #7
The concept of fairness does not exist in the republican mind set. madaboutharry Oct 2021 #8
Dobbs is the case to watch... Takket Oct 2021 #9
Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization- a HUGE upcoming case in Dec 2021 irisblue Oct 2021 #11
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Jon King Oct 2021 #10
+1 bucolic_frolic Oct 2021 #12
You've described the situation we are in perfectly. GoodRaisin Oct 2021 #19
Totally agree. It will indeed be "the revenge tour" and the long plan to MAGA. Whites only. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #22
well said. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #25
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Oct 2021 #27
Yes, they are fascists Mysterian Oct 2021 #29
The US government bogs down occasionally in it's striving to make a more-perfect government. jaxexpat Oct 2021 #13
Guys like Donald Ayer unleashed this beast upon us PlanetBev Oct 2021 #14
They invited the roaches to the banquet. LastDemocratInSC Oct 2021 #18
K&R bluewater Oct 2021 #15
Who does this Supreme Court benefit? Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #16
You are 41 years too late Don Ayers. Boomerproud Oct 2021 #20
That "revolution" never really morphed. Some conservatives may have believed the smoke screen... JHB Oct 2021 #28

orangecrush

(19,522 posts)
2. It all began with Reagan
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:14 AM
Oct 2021

Wealth's attack and robbery of the American worker/middle class by an extensive propaganda and political strategy, to take us back to the guilded age.

And here we are.

mopinko

(70,077 posts)
3. his biggest accomplishment- 'spin' became something besides lies.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:07 AM
Oct 2021

imho, this is THE thing that happened under st ronnie- the pres was allowed to lie, and call it something else, and everyone swallowed that.
once you start calling lies something else and getting away w it, you can do anything.

esp- turning 'entitlement' into a dirty word that means the opposite of what it means.

orangecrush

(19,522 posts)
23. Thanks
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:14 PM
Oct 2021


IMO, the Occupy movement had them crapping their pants.

Took control of media coverage, and advocated direct action participatory democracy taken to the streets, instead of playing against their stacked deck.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
24. It was revealing when the tea party, formed as a response to the 2008 financial meltdown and
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 07:16 AM
Oct 2021

originally wanting to hold Wall Street banksters accountable, was co-opted. Koch Bros. and others saw an opportunity to influence and ultimately direct/ take over a movement. And they did. Not much truth about that out there, and I suppose it doesn't matter anymore. It is what it is at this point. A rabid cult being manipulated by folks intent on destroying democracy. That's what it looks like anyhow.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,323 posts)
4. Yet another example of people who participated in wrecking this country trying to separate
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:43 AM
Oct 2021

themselves from the damage and pretend they weren't responsible for what they now decry.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
5. The Gang Of Six
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:56 AM
Oct 2021

ain't gonna like all these high-intensity spotlights on them. They were planning on rolling-out their extremist RightWing agenda while people weren't paying attention.

bucolic_frolic

(43,124 posts)
6. It has become on the Right what it sought to prevent from the Left
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:03 AM
Oct 2021

Much of what I see in court rulings, from many levels, is about 20% partisan, and on the Supreme Court its 60%

madaboutharry

(40,205 posts)
8. The concept of fairness does not exist in the republican mind set.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:18 AM
Oct 2021

It is all about the outcome. The 6 conservatives on the court render opinions based on their personal political views. They manufacture strained legal arguments to justify their opinions. The Supreme Court has become a farce.

Takket

(21,555 posts)
9. Dobbs is the case to watch...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:48 AM
Oct 2021

I'm reading Oral arguments are December 1st. I'm not sure when a ruling actually comes down, but this was the plan all along. Stack SCOTUS, have some state start a case effectively banning abortions, and get that case in front of SCOTUS. Well, here it is........ this is the moment they spent years preparing for.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
11. Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization- a HUGE upcoming case in Dec 2021
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:53 AM
Oct 2021

Much more info available online.
Source-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dobbs_v._Jackson_Women%27s_Health_Organization

Snip-Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization is a pending U.S. Supreme Court case dealing with the constitutionality of a 2018 Mississippi state law that banned abortion operations after the first 15 weeks of pregnancy. Lower courts had ruled in preliminary injunctions to prevent enforcement of the law on the basis that the law violated the holding of women's rights in Roe v. Wade, which generally allows a woman to opt for abortion within the first 24 weeks. Oral hearings are scheduled on December 1, 2021.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
10. "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:53 AM
Oct 2021

Maya Angelou told us long ago. These people are exactly who they showed they were....Clarence Thomas, Kavanaugh, Alito, Coney Barrett.....McConnell, Bannon, Trump, all the MAGA voters. Nothing they do should be a surprise.

They will cheat to win in 2022, they will then impeach Biden and Harris in the House, they will put in state voting boards to do their bidding, they will install Trump in 2024, they will ban women's rights, they will ensure white male minority rule on every possible aspect of American life.

Tired of anyone of any party that wants to play by the old rules. These people are nothing if not transparent, they have showed us what they want and they will do it when they have the chance.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
22. Totally agree. It will indeed be "the revenge tour" and the long plan to MAGA. Whites only.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:44 PM
Oct 2021

And only our kind of whites. The purity tests will make McCarthy look like an amateur. This ain't no party.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
13. The US government bogs down occasionally in it's striving to make a more-perfect government.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:36 AM
Oct 2021

The essential mechanism of our government is to address challenges with appropriate legislation, while acknowledging perpetual and current imperfection. Our problems are when the electorate gives into the temptation to presume an arrival at a state of perfection or at least preferability. The pressure to discover, accept and maintain this illusory state is the primary cause of discord and dis-ease among the governed. Conservatism captures the inherent tendency of an individual to distrust the unknown and focuses the public's attention on fear of change. Conservatism, by this fashion, is a democratic society's worst devolution, the heart of discord and disease which makes all citizens into cowards.

The inevitability of this tragedy should have been ameliorated by the existence of a timeless and absolute account of laws complete with judges to oversee their dispensation. BUT, somehow, the idea of unelected lifetime terms (appointed judicial monarchs) to provide personnel for a full one third and equal branch of our government was infused into our founders' thinking as a reasonable provision. I suspect it was, like the electoral college, a nod to a peculiarly self-righteous aspect of "conservatism" endemic to coalitions of the powerful. It was/is a mistake.

Ultimately conservatism is the product of a lazy mind. Chalk another one up for gravity.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
14. Guys like Donald Ayer unleashed this beast upon us
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:12 PM
Oct 2021

Now they’re bemoaning that they can’t control it. Just like they welcomed every evangelical religious nut to the GOP to consolidate power, and now they are the party.

You can’t control fanaticism.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
18. They invited the roaches to the banquet.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 06:24 PM
Oct 2021

And are now complaining about the bugs eating from the buffet and swimming in the punch bowl.

WTF did they think was going to happen?

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
16. Who does this Supreme Court benefit?
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:52 PM
Oct 2021

The filthy rich and the corporations they use to extract our national wealth.

The US Supreme Court, like in any fascist system, is used to ensure profits over any other concerns of the majority of citizens. Keeping a desperate and poor abused woman popping out those neglected and hungry babies, ensure a ready supply of starving cheap labor. Outlawing abortions keeps those uppity women in their place.

Forced birth only applies to women who can't get away from the abusive laws. My offspring can go to another country to use the abortion pills. The Senator with a pregnant mistress can get the abortion pills off the black market easily enough despite laws. And poor abused folk are frequently unable to get away or able to afford the black market prices. So, poor folk end up being the underpaid, overworked and desperate labor force of the filthy rich capitalists thanks to anti-abortion laws approved by the Supremes.

It's just another scam.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
28. That "revolution" never really morphed. Some conservatives may have believed the smoke screen...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 10:02 AM
Oct 2021

...about it being against "activist" judges, but anyone taking a good look at the people and groups driving the shift could tell the goal wasn't putting the breaks on "activism", it was to reverse decades of decisions they didn't agree with.

Not just Roe v. Wade: labor law rulings, regulatory rulings, corporate law rulings, privacy rulings, permissible government reach rulings, right up to and past reversing the rulings that allowed Social Security and any other program that helped regular people or added obstacles to the wealthy bulldozing anyone in their way.

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