Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:49 AM
Tomconroy (5,177 posts)
Covid's Mysterious Two Month Cycle
For reasons that are not well understood Covid seems to run in a cycle of approximately four months or so, peaking halfway through and then quickly dissipaiting. We appear to be on the downslope of the cycle now with cases dropping 35 percent in the US since Sept 1 and 30 percent worldwide.
Reprinted from today's NY Times: https://www.wionews.com/world/trying-to-make-sense-of-covids-mysterious-2-month-cycle-418142
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Author | Time | Post |
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Tomconroy | Oct 2021 | OP |
lark | Oct 2021 | #1 | |
Act_of_Reparation | Oct 2021 | #2 | |
WA-03 Democrat | Oct 2021 | #12 | |
Baitball Blogger | Oct 2021 | #14 | |
Blues Heron | Oct 2021 | #3 | |
genxlib | Oct 2021 | #4 | |
luvs2sing | Oct 2021 | #7 | |
Mad_Machine76 | Oct 2021 | #9 | |
2naSalit | Oct 2021 | #11 | |
MontanaFarmer | Oct 2021 | #5 | |
Tomconroy | Oct 2021 | #6 | |
Klaralven | Oct 2021 | #8 | |
Blues Heron | Oct 2021 | #10 | |
dutch777 | Oct 2021 | #13 |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:51 AM
lark (20,328 posts)
1. Sadly it has come roaring back previously & probably will this time as well.
I'm hoping that all the vaccinations in areas hit hard this round will prevent another huge spike with all of those ramifications.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:52 AM
Act_of_Reparation (8,568 posts)
2. It isn't that mysterious.
Covid spreads when people are in close contact with another. It jumps during vacation seasons and dips when people are normally just stuck at home anyway. It'll be back up in November, after Thanksgiving.
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Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:35 AM
WA-03 Democrat (2,348 posts)
12. This 1000%
Response to Act_of_Reparation (Reply #2)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:26 AM
Baitball Blogger (41,958 posts)
14. +1
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:00 AM
Blues Heron (4,264 posts)
3. to me it looks more like 4 months
in the US the delta wave began in the beginning of July, then peaked beginning of September
India's delta wave had a 4 month trough to trough timing, peaking two months in. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ on edit - the article says the same thing, they call it a two month cycle but are really talking about just the first half of it. |
Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:04 AM
genxlib (4,847 posts)
4. Here's my theory
Call it the "Yippee-Oh shit" cycle.
People declare victory and behave as if all is good. ie holidays, summertime, etc. Then, "oh shit" and people go back to the turtle position again. |
Response to genxlib (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:19 AM
luvs2sing (2,031 posts)
7. This!
I shall forever refer to it this way.
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Response to genxlib (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:31 AM
Mad_Machine76 (22,504 posts)
9. Or not really
It really seems like, once all of the masking, social distancing orders ended at the beginning of the summer, things look relatively the same as they did pre-COVID- except for the continued sickness and death, which (it seems) people are pretty much just living with at this point, either because they don't care or they just have to deal with to keep their jobs and make a living. Kinda depressing really. I mean, I know that we have vaccines now, but there is still a pretty sizable segment of the society that refuses to get it and refuses to accept even the tiniest mitigation measures.
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Response to genxlib (Reply #4)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:47 AM
2naSalit (58,402 posts)
11. Perfect!
That's the response cycle we seem to have adopted. Great name for it.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:09 AM
MontanaFarmer (588 posts)
5. The money quote in here, from Dr. Scott Gottlieb, is a big one and an encouraging one.
It's offered as his opinion, of course, but does make some sense given the levels of both vaccination and infection we've seen. He is of the opinion that this Delta surge will be the last major wave we see in America. I am hopeful that he's correct. As soon as I can get my children vaccinated I'll be feeling much better about my family's own situation in all this, but I'll never get over what these anti-vaxxers have put our society and especially our healthcare workers through this summer. What a disaster.
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Response to MontanaFarmer (Reply #5)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:19 AM
Tomconroy (5,177 posts)
6. Dr. Gottlieb, although a Republican, is pretty sharp. He was lead advisor on
Covid to CT governor Ned Lamont. I'm going to guess he is right. He really studies the numbers.
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:24 AM
Klaralven (7,510 posts)
8. I doubt that we'll ever get back to the 12000 daily new cases of June, 2021
Or down to the 250 daily deaths of July, 2021.
Some combination of unvaccinated cases and breakthrough cases will continue at a higher level. |
Response to Klaralven (Reply #8)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:31 AM
Blues Heron (4,264 posts)
10. I agree, looking at India, they settled down to twice what they were before delta
So we will probably settle down at 20-30,000/day
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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:26 AM
dutch777 (1,468 posts)
13. Two key factors-- human behavior as others noted and new variants
It's not Covid per se unless there are new more virulent variants but rather how much people let their guard down or just pretend like it isn't present in their environment. We are currently driving across the country and after we left WA state, pretty much everyone in ID, MT and WY has let their guard down. I pretty much will expect the same until we get to the east coast. We have been getting takeout meals and enjoying the great outdoors instead of being indoors. Lots of folks are losing business and don't realize it.
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