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Celerity

(43,076 posts)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:18 AM Oct 2021

AOC Hails President Biden As 'A Good Faith Partner'

The New York congresswoman was highly complimentary of Biden's willingness to negotiate with progressives.

https://crooksandliars.com/2021/10/aoc-congratulates-president-biden-good

On CBS' Face The Nation, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez remarked that Pres. Joe Biden has done everything in good faith, as he is trying to get his legislation passed. “I think that President Biden has been a good faith partner to the entire Democratic party,” Ocasio-Cortez said. AOC said that Biden is a moderate, but "reaches out and actually tries to understand our perspective and that is why I am fighting for his agenda."



It has been frustrating legislating a bold agenda when you have senators like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema refusing to negotiate in good faith after such a tumultuous last administration. The American people spoke out strongly in electing President Biden overwhelmingly, and flipping the Senate to the Democratic party. Yet these two rogue Democrats refuse to get on board to fulfil the will of the people. But the fight continues.

The mainstream media, though, seems to be pining for the days of Traitor Trump's unhinged antics, so they've been claiming (falsely) that Biden's agenda is in "crisis." Eric Boehlert in his newsletter writes, "Everybody knows the DC media’s approved story-line these days — battered by 'crises,' the president’s approval rating has 'collapsed.'



So what happens when a news outlet produces a poll that shows President Joe Biden with a healthy 50% approval rating? If you’re the AP, you stick to the script and spin it as bad news. Fact: In four years in office, Trump never once hit 50% approval." Wanting to pass major legislation for the Democratic party that helps the majority of the American people is always a chore, and yet the Beltway Media always feels compelled to couch it in right-wing talking points.

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AOC Hails President Biden As 'A Good Faith Partner' (Original Post) Celerity Oct 2021 OP
Someone will pick out a couple of words that she said and twist them to make it sound like Autumn Oct 2021 #1
The easily AOC triggered are like the Star Wars Sand People... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2021 #3
And "some" will make this an opportunity to talk about Nixie Oct 2021 #6
The poster referred to "shitty Republican tricks" Sympthsical Oct 2021 #11
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #18
You have a low opinion of your fellow posters nixie. Autumn Oct 2021 #20
That is sad SunImp Oct 2021 #21
Such irony, Autumn. But I realize your goal is to repeat "shitty Republican Nixie Oct 2021 #27
Post removed Post removed Oct 2021 #31
Ooh, that's another trick, Autumn. Personalize everything Nixie Oct 2021 #38
Easier to find at a later date when needed. George II Oct 2021 #46
+1, definitely a strategy to it. Nixie Oct 2021 #47
Or something else... sheshe2 Oct 2021 #53
Where did I call you a shitty Republican trickster? Nixie Oct 2021 #39
You didn't, and I didn't say you did. I said that term, "shitty Republican tricks" Autumn Oct 2021 #41
Haha, sticking with the personalized attacks? Very predictable. Nixie Oct 2021 #44
Twisting sheshe2 Oct 2021 #33
You would know she, you would know her better than I . I only go by what I see. Autumn Oct 2021 #35
Oh, trust me, so do I, Autumn. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #43
DId you consciously infer that inaccurately, or was it merely a mistake on your part? LanternWaste Oct 2021 #29
Truth. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #36
Did you not read the first sentence before that "shitty republican tricks" ?? George II Oct 2021 #48
I switched nothing. Twisting words said by a Democrat is a shitty republican trick. Autumn Oct 2021 #19
The switcheroo being changing the thread subject from Nixie Oct 2021 #26
Hate to tell you but my post was about AOC. Autumn Oct 2021 #32
Your post was about "someone" who would be coming Nixie Oct 2021 #37
I will post what, when and how I chose, there are steps to take if you don't like my post or if you Autumn Oct 2021 #65
In your excerpt you did not include the ROFL emmoticon... sheshe2 Oct 2021 #56
You stop she. You think whatever you want. Not a fuck to give. Autumn Oct 2021 #64
... betsuni Oct 2021 #66
"Twisting words" means quoting verbatim. betsuni Oct 2021 #54
And you all but predicted it would be done by a member of this site, Autumn. George II Oct 2021 #49
I can see the Daily mail or Newsweek doing just that SunImp Oct 2021 #22
The pundits use that trick a lot on the talking idiot shows. Autumn Oct 2021 #23
And Justice Democrats. Don't forget what Justice Democrats say Nixie Oct 2021 #28
I don't forget. I follow them on twitter. I don't have a problem with them Autumn Oct 2021 #34
Aah, so Democrats such as yourself aren't shitty Republican Nixie Oct 2021 #40
You read a lot into my posts that aren't there nix. I never implied anything about Democrats using Autumn Oct 2021 #42
Aah, you referred to a phantom "someone" coming along, Nixie Oct 2021 #45
You should sign up for their emails, Autumn. I'd post a few of them here, Autumn, but alas...... George II Oct 2021 #50
He is a strong, progressive and profoundly decent leader. Hortensis Oct 2021 #2
He is indeed Tom Rinaldo Oct 2021 #4
:) That's so nice, Tom. People across the spectrum are getting Hortensis Oct 2021 #10
Biden is not only a good faith partner to Democrats, he is a good faith opposition to Republicans. Midnight Writer Oct 2021 #5
I love Joe Biden. calimary Oct 2021 #7
"Joe Biden is a moderate"? PatSeg Oct 2021 #8
He IS a moderate. No Question. But... Tommymac Oct 2021 #13
Yes, he certainly is the best person for the job, especially right now PatSeg Oct 2021 #14
Same here. Many years as a fire breathing libtard, and I am now more pragmatic (and effective) too. Tommymac Oct 2021 #15
Kind of funny how age and experience does that to us, isn't it? PatSeg Oct 2021 #16
Totally. nt Tommymac Oct 2021 #17
Biden is a moderate. But he is wise and compassionate, he sees the needs of the people and the Autumn Oct 2021 #24
I agree with what you say, PatSeg Oct 2021 #25
'AOC said that Biden is a moderate, but "reaches out and actually tries to understand elleng Oct 2021 #9
Yes he has been mvd Oct 2021 #12
I think Pres Biden and Rep Ocasio-Cortez make a better team than most credit them with. LanternWaste Oct 2021 #30
Love AOC and Joe B for working together on this. Team players! jalan48 Oct 2021 #51
+1 Roisin Ni Fiachra Oct 2021 #60
I remember this from last year: George II Oct 2021 #52
I'm sure you remember then Senator Joe Biden's stance on the DP & his crime bill back then too SunImp Oct 2021 #55
A very different time. "The Crime Bill Debate Shows How Short Americans' Memories Are." betsuni Oct 2021 #57
Of course that is the case, as most other advanced nations use proportional representation-based Celerity Oct 2021 #58
And this from the same interview: George II Oct 2021 #59
It is the truth as well. In a gamed, rigged electoral map, such as the Rethugs have now erected Celerity Oct 2021 #62
LOL... Budi Oct 2021 #61
+1 betsuni Oct 2021 #63
+++ sheshe2 Oct 2021 #67

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
1. Someone will pick out a couple of words that she said and twist them to make it sound like
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:37 AM
Oct 2021

she doesn't support him or his agenda . Shitty republican tricks are all In vogue.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
3. The easily AOC triggered are like the Star Wars Sand People...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:49 AM
Oct 2021

Easily startled but will soon be along - and in greater numbers - after they find the TV clicker and check to see what those kids are doing across the street.



Nixie

(16,950 posts)
6. And "some" will make this an opportunity to talk about
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:50 PM
Oct 2021

other DUers…like the first two posts in this thread!

Congratulations. This was about the quickest switcheroo yet.

Sympthsical

(9,029 posts)
11. The poster referred to "shitty Republican tricks"
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:07 PM
Oct 2021

And you're applying that term to DUers?

That is not cool!

Response to Sympthsical (Reply #11)

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
20. You have a low opinion of your fellow posters nixie.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 06:51 PM
Oct 2021

I have found that twisting words is a time honored shitty republican trick. one of the favorite things that asshole pukes do. They get away with it because their fan base has no desire for truth. They swallow lies hook, line and sinker.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
27. Such irony, Autumn. But I realize your goal is to repeat "shitty Republican
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:31 PM
Oct 2021

tricks”. Speaking of tricks, personalizing anything said about AOC is also a shitty trick, especially the first post in a thread with no other entries.

Response to Nixie (Reply #27)

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
38. Ooh, that's another trick, Autumn. Personalize everything
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:31 PM
Oct 2021

especially by calling names. So predictable, thank you.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
39. Where did I call you a shitty Republican trickster?
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:33 PM
Oct 2021

Where did I imply you are a shitty Republican trickster?

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
41. You didn't, and I didn't say you did. I said that term, "shitty Republican tricks"
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:38 PM
Oct 2021

seems to triggers you. No need to be angry, I never accused you of using shitty Republican tricks.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
44. Haha, sticking with the personalized attacks? Very predictable.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:42 PM
Oct 2021

But your first post looks triggered. No entries in this thread but you’re already carrying over from another thread…? Seems kinda “triggered”.

sheshe2

(83,637 posts)
43. Oh, trust me, so do I, Autumn.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:41 PM
Oct 2021
I only go by what I see.


I go by what I see and what I read. Some of it is very very subtle, some is not.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. DId you consciously infer that inaccurately, or was it merely a mistake on your part?
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:43 PM
Oct 2021

If the former, "that is not cool!"

If the latter, there's always room to learn.

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Did you not read the first sentence before that "shitty republican tricks" ??
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:16 PM
Oct 2021

Methinks that "s-r-t" comment WAS applying to DUers.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
26. The switcheroo being changing the thread subject from
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:26 PM
Oct 2021

AOC to DUers —- on the first post, lol. Is that a shitty Republican trick?

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
32. Hate to tell you but my post was about AOC.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:18 PM
Oct 2021
Autumn (40,772 posts)

1. Someone will pick out a couple of words that she said and twist them to make it sound like

she doesn't support him or his agenda . Shitty republican tricks are all In vogue.


Republicans and trolls seem to have a real problem with her and will do anything they can to smear her. It happens all the time

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
37. Your post was about "someone" who would be coming
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:29 PM
Oct 2021

along and then to call them names. “It happens all the time,” but usually not in the first post when there is no discussion, lol.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
65. I will post what, when and how I chose, there are steps to take if you don't like my post or if you
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:16 AM
Oct 2021

think it's out of line. I suggest you use them nixie. Harassment is not one of them.

sheshe2

(83,637 posts)
56. In your excerpt you did not include the ROFL emmoticon...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:54 PM
Oct 2021

It is still clearly seen in post #1. The is a big part or your comment, Autumn.

and this:

Republicans and trolls seem to have a real problem with her and will do anything they can to smear her. It happens all the time


Now you call anyone that disagrees with AOC is a Repubicon or troll???!!

Just stop, Autumn.

betsuni

(25,374 posts)
54. "Twisting words" means quoting verbatim.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:31 PM
Oct 2021

"Triggered" means responding to personal insults and obvious innuendos that DUers are Republicans.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
23. The pundits use that trick a lot on the talking idiot shows.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:14 PM
Oct 2021

It seems to be used a lot by cons against anyone that they don't like.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
34. I don't forget. I follow them on twitter. I don't have a problem with them
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:22 PM
Oct 2021

like you do. Some things I agree with them on. Other things I don't.

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
40. Aah, so Democrats such as yourself aren't shitty Republican
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:36 PM
Oct 2021

tricksters if they disagree on some things, so implying other Democrats are seems unnecessary.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
42. You read a lot into my posts that aren't there nix. I never implied anything about Democrats using
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 09:40 PM
Oct 2021

shitty Republican tricks.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. He is a strong, progressive and profoundly decent leader.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:42 AM
Oct 2021

That's why Democrats elected him.

His and our party's domestic agendas don't seem to leave much for anyone to complain about, do they? Even most Republican voters. Thank goodness.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
4. He is indeed
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:15 PM
Oct 2021

I've always know that Biden is a profoundly decent leader, but I wasn't sure if his vision was bold enough to meet the moment. Well that's settled: ABSOLUTELY.

Count me as a strong AOC supporter since the first time I saw her first first campaign video, and I couldn't be happier with President Biden, who has far exceeded my always positive expectations for him.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. :) That's so nice, Tom. People across the spectrum are getting
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:05 PM
Oct 2021

a good chance to see who Democrats really are. It says a lot that activists like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez are proud to be part of what we're doing.

Our bold actions aren't just speaking louder than words but also louder than lies of the past. Of course, we've learned that we have to shout them to the world, over and over, and that's a difference.

In 2009, Obama and Democrats saved the nation and the world economy from the collapse the GOP brought us to. Yet in 2010 confused voters, snowed under with lies from all sides, didn't understand that. They didn't know who created the big tax rebates that showed up as lower tax bills; millions didn't even know they're received them. This time we sent emergency stimulus checks.

So, we act and we blow our horns. We only need a few more percentages of voters to believe we can and will change everything.

Midnight Writer

(21,693 posts)
5. Biden is not only a good faith partner to Democrats, he is a good faith opposition to Republicans.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:17 PM
Oct 2021

It's a shame Republicans don't seem to have any good faith political leaders.

They would rather "burn the whole thing down" than negotiate in good faith for the sake of the nation.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
8. "Joe Biden is a moderate"?
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 01:55 PM
Oct 2021

His policies are the most progressive we've seen since LBJ and FDR, yet people still call him a "moderate".

I'm glad Ocasio-Cortez sees the President as a good faith partner, but when are the progressives in the Democratic party going to acknowledge that Biden is not a moderate? Of course, it is probably good politically that he isn't branded a left-wing Democrat. His image as a moderate probably helped get him elected.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
13. He IS a moderate. No Question. But...
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:11 PM
Oct 2021

President Joe knows we need to get things done to address income inequality, racial inequality, women's and LBGT Rights, a decaying physical infrastructure and a crippling pandemic.

He knows he has to pull out all the stops, and work with EVERY SIDE to get the right combination of infrastructure renewal programs, tax incentives, tax cuts, medical programs, and social reforms to put the USA back together in a bigger, better way.

I am a progressive - been on the left all my life. I saw and heard then VP Joe speak at the Pittsburgh Labor Day Parade in August 2016. Damn if he didn't sound almost like Senator Bernie in a lot of that speech, and also channeled and supported Hillary's ideas too.

He is a consummate politician who does not let labels stand in the way of getting things done. After that speech, and seeing how he has governed since he has assumed the office of the President in January, just like AOC I respect and support him 110%.

I don't care that he is a moderate, and sometimes pushes ideas that may not be progressive at all. He gets a big pass in my eyes.

In these times, Joe Biden is the best person for the job of President of the USA. Period.



PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
14. Yes, he certainly is the best person for the job, especially right now
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:31 PM
Oct 2021

Still though he may come across as moderate, the domestic policies he is trying to implement are are not moderate policies. They will achieve a lot of the things that the far left progressives want, but his approach is different and more doable (hopefully).

I think at his core, Biden is more liberal than he seems, but many years of experience have also made him pragmatic.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
15. Same here. Many years as a fire breathing libtard, and I am now more pragmatic (and effective) too.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:39 PM
Oct 2021

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
16. Kind of funny how age and experience does that to us, isn't it?
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:46 PM
Oct 2021

I'm still very liberal, but I also know what is possible. My younger self would probably be very dismissive of the current me.

Autumn

(44,972 posts)
24. Biden is a moderate. But he is wise and compassionate, he sees the needs of the people and the
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:19 PM
Oct 2021

country and will always be willing to do what is best.

PatSeg

(47,239 posts)
25. I agree with what you say,
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 07:23 PM
Oct 2021

except I don't think he fits into a "moderate" pigeon hole. He is moderate in some regards and liberal in others, plus he is open and willing to change.

elleng

(130,714 posts)
9. 'AOC said that Biden is a moderate, but "reaches out and actually tries to understand
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 02:00 PM
Oct 2021

our perspective and that is why I am fighting for his agenda."'

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. I think Pres Biden and Rep Ocasio-Cortez make a better team than most credit them with.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 08:45 PM
Oct 2021

I also think both politically compliment the other rather well. Seems a lot of us on the left of the spectrum could take a cue from those two.

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. I remember this from last year:
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:48 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-biden-not-same-party-094642

AOC: 'In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party'

Ocasio-Cortez labeled House Democrats' centrist wing "the tea party of the left."

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said in an interview published Monday that Democrats nationwide can cultivate “too big of a tent,” asserting that she and her party’s 2020 frontrunner, former Vice President Joe Biden, would be in different political parties in any other nation.

Asked for a profile by New York Magazine about what role she might play as a member of Congress should Biden capture the White House, the freshman House Democrat from New York responded with a groan.

“Oh God,” she said. “In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are.”

A spokesperson for the Biden campaign did not immediately return a request for comment.

SunImp

(2,223 posts)
55. I'm sure you remember then Senator Joe Biden's stance on the DP & his crime bill back then too
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:35 PM
Oct 2021
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/20/joe-biden-death-penalty-1371932

Joe Biden said in a 1992 speech that criminal justice legislation he was pushing was so strict that “we do everything but hang people for jaywalking.” Two years later, his signature crime bill made dozens of additional offenses punishable by death.

But in a little-noticed remark earlier this month in New Hampshire, the Democratic presidential front-runner seemed to offer a decidedly different stance on the death penalty.


Given enough time, people can change who they are and how they feel about a lot of things. AOC distrusted him then, but she is warming up to President Biden now, and that's a good thing.

betsuni

(25,374 posts)
57. A very different time. "The Crime Bill Debate Shows How Short Americans' Memories Are."
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:17 AM
Oct 2021
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/09/joe-biden-crime-bill-and-americans-short-memory/597547/

2/3 of the Congressional Black Caucus voted for it, had the support of many black leaders.

Rep. James Clyburn describes the reaction of the audience when running for Congress and opposing mandatory minimum prison sentences:

"Those people darn near lynched me in that meeting, and there wasn't a single white person in the room. The atmosphere back then -- the scourge of crack cocaine and what it was doing to these African American communities -- they were all for getting this out of their community."

Charles Rangel opposed the bill, but said he could do so because he was in a safe blue district: "The only thing people wanted from us was to do something." "When you go to town-hall meetings, people just demand that you explain what the hell you're going to do to reduce crime."

Because it was bipartisan, the White House agreed to harsher punishments "to win the Republican votes needed for the passage in the face of conservative Democrats' opposition to the assault weapons ban." Clyburn says they planned to build on the positive things in the bill: "But then we lost in 1994 and all the punitive stuff, the Republicans kept all that and got rid of some of the good stuff."

Of course things changed and politicians' positions change. For example, Bernie Sanders voted for the bill, with reservations, but as many said about the epidemic of organized crime at that time, action was needed. Communities demanded it:

"I think there is no disagreement among all of us that we need strong law enforcement ... clearly there are people in our society that are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them."

AOC said she and Biden would be in different parties in 2020, not 1994.

Celerity

(43,076 posts)
58. Of course that is the case, as most other advanced nations use proportional representation-based
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:30 AM
Oct 2021

parliamentary systems that lead to multiple parties that form coalition governments or coalition oppositions. That is exactly what she was referring to.

Absolutely nothing nefarious or incorrect in that AOC statement in regards to different parties.

Also, even though they they would be in different parties, it is likely they would be in a coalition government together or in a coalition opposition together.

George II

(67,782 posts)
59. And this from the same interview:
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 08:27 AM
Oct 2021
Democrats nationwide can cultivate “too big of a tent,”


The broader Democratic Party, as well, “can be too big of a tent,” she said.


Wonder who that's in reference to?

Celerity

(43,076 posts)
62. It is the truth as well. In a gamed, rigged electoral map, such as the Rethugs have now erected
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:10 AM
Oct 2021

after decades of gaming the system from the ground up (local to regional, to state to federal levels) via partisan, relentless gerrymandering, voter suppression, propaganda designed to engender conflict and/or apathy in the opposition, we end up having to run candidates so far towards the right (especially in these ginned-up RW slanted swing districts) that even if we end up with nominal control, we are shackled with a minority of candidates and then, if we are successful, elected members that are farther to right than the vast majority of the Party. At that point, we run into some of the issues that we are now experiencing.

That minority that is the farthest to the right in the caucus ends up tossing multiple spanners in the works for the vast majority of Democrats. As the partisan gerrymandering continues to lurch the centre more to right, that entire schema of potential intraparty ideological cleavages will only continue to manifest itself to greater and greater degrees. It creates an inherent paralysis inside the party, where programmes supported and positions held by the overwhelming number of members are stymied by that small, furthest to right cadre. The same, of course, could occur on the furthest left, BUT that has not occurred so far.

The more the electoral map is skewed by the Rethugs with their partisan gaming of the system at local, state, and federal levels, the further to the right the centre point of the American political elected spectrum becomes. A vicious circle ensues, where cause and effect work in a reciprocal, synergistic tandem to further exacerbate the ideological cleavages and tensions with the intraparty environs.

At some point, in this modelling, the party starts to have significant systemic voter haemorrhages on the left flank greater than any potential gains via attempts to grab a larger foothold in the ever rightward-moving centre. Voter apathy and disenchantment kick in, as some voters ideologically inclined to support the left quarter to left third of the our Party hit the wall of programme-enactment failure fatigue.

They simply see no viable outlet for their preferred ideological-based, programme/legislative manifested outcomes. Unlike all (I would hope) of us on this board many simply give up, and are not motivated to vote defensively (ie anti-Rethug as the primary driver) only, or at least in many cases to a large degree.

Even in a de facto 2 party system there are constraints on how ideologically wide and diverse a party can become before splintering starts to occur. Political parties are indeed subject to laws of diminishing returns, just like most mass sociological endeavours are. It is part (definitely not the only component though) of the reason why the US has such poor voter turnout for many elections compared to many other advanced nations. This is all basic political systems analysis.

To end on a positive note, I would say that so far, Biden (overall has been rather magnificent IMHO), Harris, Pelosi (right up there with Biden), Schumer and the leadership in the biggest single caucus in our Congressional delegation (the 96-member-strong House Progressive Caucus) have so far managed to conduct and manage our party's legislative and executive business with a high degree of efficaciousness. May it long continue.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
61. LOL...
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 09:43 AM
Oct 2021

A few months ago Aoc was in Ohio fully endorsing the candidate who called Biden "a bowl of shit"

Now she really really likes (needs) him?
JFC 🙄

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