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(5,376 posts)Celerity
(43,682 posts)their feet virtually once the 'go' plan is started, and legions of reflexively controlled QMAGATS spring from the ground. Social media is a massive potential force multiplier.
The top planners and their tip of the sphere vanguard will have strategic targets picked out ages in advance, targets they deem necessary for with regional or national operational control at certain multivariate levels.
In this type of scenario you are hoping for multiple, geographically dispersed spontaneous combustion events of violence to occur, increasing your forces dramatically, until you hit the '100th monkey' inflection point and shit goes boogaloo bonkers nationwide.
IF Bannon is actually doing this, I doubt 2OK is an accurate number. He would never pre-show all his hand.
More than likely he is talking shit.
Journeyman
(15,043 posts)Walleye
(31,118 posts)kimbutgar
(21,240 posts)This is inciting a group to overthrow our government. Why isnt this treasonous?
Kaleva
(36,384 posts)If that's all they can muster, they have no chance.
And Bannon is a well known fibber. Just because he says something doesn't mean it's true. Does this group of 20k actually exist?
Justice matters.
(6,955 posts)Kaleva
(36,384 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,454 posts)Arrest him.
Takket
(21,677 posts)i'm sure even as board as the first amendment is, that it doesn't cover you raising an army to overthrow the government.
and just a reminder Bannon was indicated for wire fraud and would like be in prison now if drumpf had not pardoned him for that.
Happy Hoosier
(7,454 posts)... violently overthrowing the lawful government.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)He's speaking in code, but to constitute an illegal threat, the language has to be unambiguous, targeted and specific. Bannon is smart enough to couch his language in ambiguous, non-specific terms.
EndlessWire
(6,573 posts)how ambiguous it is when pretty much everyone heard it for what he meant.
I wonder where he got these troops from. People always talk like it's a done deal, but real war is ugly, it hurts, and if you are not a trained troop, you won't stay the course. Look what happened in Afghanistan, how quickly those trained troops quit. I don't think he would get a solid block of hardened, gun-wielding "shock" troops like he implies he will conjure up.
I think it would be fun to have him arrested for this threat, and let him hire some second-rate attorney to get himself free. No Trump to pardon him. I want to see the laminated "get out of jail free" card he carries in his wallet.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Any attempt to charge him with a crime based on that comment we get thrown out of court immediately.
And we don't aren't people "for fun" and then see what happens.
Following the rule of law - even when we don't like the results - is one of the things that makes us not Republicans.
EndlessWire
(6,573 posts)there's no point to it. If you don't accept non lawyerese comments, then you can go ahead and judge my comment anyway you want. Jeesh, I don't care what you think of me!
Maybe you'll like this; it's a little more pure. I'd like to see the bastard arrested for the clear, unambiguous threat he made to overthrow the US government. I'd love to see who he gets to represent him, and I wouldn't mind discussing it right here on DU. It would be a pleasure, and something of a win for We The People. Either we are some kind of Democracy battling evil fascists, or we are just pretending.
This guy was sitting on the NSC. Who the hell is he but Trump's lackey? He's not some high schooler playing a game. I'd like to test your theory that his clear, unambiguous threat is not what it is. After all, he's the one who said it. He said he has 20,000 "shock" troops ready to take over the country as soon as a Republican president is in place. The guy's a loony toon, but he's skirting the edge. It's only your opinion that he hasn't crossed over the line. I'm sure there were thousands of Germans who thought the same thing, but look what they got.
"Shock troops:
Shock troops or assault troops are formations created to lead an attack. They are often better trained and equipped than other infantry, and expected to take heavy casualties even in successful operations. "Shock troop" is a calque, a loose translation of the German word Stoßtrupp. Wikipedia"
This is an interesting choice of words for him. And, he counts on our rule of law, and the situation where the legitimate military cannot come to our aid. So, yeah, I'd like to test his situation in a court of law, really I would. So, he has organized an army, has he? He should probably say he was just kidding.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But talking freely doesn't include being immune from disagreement or explanation.
However, since that seems to bother you, I won't waste any more of my time trying to explain to you why you will never see the result you want in this instance.
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StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Not to mention off-base in its carrying on about my supposed "habit of talking down to" you, since I don't have a habit of talking to you at all.
Other than the two responses to posts you directed to me in this thread (the first of which you initiated by inserting yourself into an exchange I was having with someone else), I don't believe I've addressed you in months, if ever.
Could it be you have me confused with someone else? Or did you just get your wires crossed?
Takket
(21,677 posts)or are they going to wait until after they finish the job the failed on Jan 6th?
because if it is after... it will be too late.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)brooklynite
(94,911 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,775 posts)a secret Muslim with recessive African genes.
Jesus. This is outrageous! Anyone else get the impression that the law enforcement agencies are too trained to do nothing with the old white guys talk treason?
DBoon
(22,414 posts)notice how he has vanished from view?
louis-t
(23,309 posts)The only thing that would be 'shocking' is if they could get their shoes on the right feet and not shoot themselves in the leg.
doc03
(35,431 posts)couldn't defeat the military but a president can put people in place to shut it down. Trump had the military stand down January 6th until he saw his coup was failing.
PortTack
(32,819 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)MineralMan
(146,345 posts)An unarmed rabble cannot overthrow the United States. All they did was slow one Congressional action down for a few hours. That's it.
doc03
(35,431 posts)hanging Pence and held Congress hostage? What do you think Trump would have done?
MineralMan
(146,345 posts)So...
doc03
(35,431 posts)succeeded in their goal. Trump sat back for 3 hours and watched until he saw it was going to fail. What if Trump
would have fired General Milley and replaced him with a Mike Flynn type. If he gets in the Whitehouse again I am sure he
will replace everyone with one of his cult.
spanone
(135,919 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)budkin
(6,725 posts)And he would be had it not been for his daddy Donald.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)And how many of his troops can climb two flights of stairs without getting winded?
ProfessorGAC
(65,334 posts)Why? Because it's Bannon. Lying is one of his two distinguishing characteristics. The other is being boozed up.
Champp
(2,114 posts)Fugging Republicans are making war on America.
IcyPeas
(21,931 posts)He is very smart and sociopathic. He has studied and applied the best of the disinformation tactics, and has a radical religious tendency. Wants to be a dictator, or at least a guru.
berniesandersmittens
(11,347 posts)I don't underestimate the slob.
Cambridge Analytica.....
He's engaged in worldwide fuckery.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)WarGamer
(12,494 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,354 posts)take on the Raider Nation.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)That's it? Okay should be easy with a few drones. Handled lol
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)posted to social media.
Demovictory9
(32,489 posts)Ligyron
(7,644 posts)DFW
(54,476 posts)Where do they store them?
Takket
(21,677 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,059 posts)loon army was shot and killed. Not super worried.