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Susan Calvin

(1,646 posts)
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:22 PM Oct 2021

Sort of listening to Dowd on CNN.

Am I the only one who has a huge problem with someone who has ever worked for W running as a Democrat, especially in Texas? Just because Trump was horrendous does not mean W was anything approaching okay.

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Sort of listening to Dowd on CNN. (Original Post) Susan Calvin Oct 2021 OP
liz warren was a repub. should she resign. and charlie crist? nt msongs Oct 2021 #1
Absolutely not Warren. Susan Calvin Oct 2021 #2
Dowd didn't work for W for very long - he worked on the 2004 campaign but Ocelot II Oct 2021 #6
Well, he really needs to sell his good points , Susan Calvin Oct 2021 #18
Warren was only a registered Republican from 1991 to 1996, the only Republican POTUS she ever voted Celerity Oct 2021 #7
Warren was a Reagan supporter. My sister personally knows her. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #8
so you are calling her a liar? Celerity Oct 2021 #10
Yes, my sister was friends with her back then. They go way back LeftInTX Oct 2021 #11
I will go with the great Senator from Massachusetts' words over some anon poster's smear Celerity Oct 2021 #12
You're free to have your opinion...I know what I know.. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #13
you openly calling Senator Warren a liar is outrageous, that is my opinion nt Celerity Oct 2021 #14
Well good for you!!!! LeftInTX Oct 2021 #15
Somebody go git the Sheriff!!! PCIntern Oct 2021 #20
I am starting to like Newsy. roamer65 Oct 2021 #3
In times like these.... calguy Oct 2021 #4
Think there are some Republicans from that period who would make Hoyt Oct 2021 #5
Dowd helped elect Ann Richards and Bob Bullock (who was the last Democrat elected to statewide offic LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #9
Did he really?? LeftInTX Oct 2021 #16
Again, the last Democrat elected to statewide office was in a campaign managed by Dowd LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #17
Well, I'm glad I posted this. Susan Calvin Oct 2021 #19

Susan Calvin

(1,646 posts)
2. Absolutely not Warren.
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:28 PM
Oct 2021

Christ I'm not sure about, not having followed him in depth.

But I am just very very leery of anyone who saw fit to work for W.

As I said, Trump made Bush look good, but Bush was very very bad. And in my opinion there was no doubt about it at the time.

Ocelot II

(115,606 posts)
6. Dowd didn't work for W for very long - he worked on the 2004 campaign but
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:51 PM
Oct 2021

by 2007 had distanced himself on account of the Iraq war, which he opposed, and was no longer speaking to Karl Rove. He hasn't been an active GOPer since then.

I think we should be willing to accept converts.

Susan Calvin

(1,646 posts)
18. Well, he really needs to sell his good points ,
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 06:43 AM
Oct 2021

And distance himself from W, because a lot of people are going to have the same knee-jerk reaction I did.

Celerity

(43,119 posts)
7. Warren was only a registered Republican from 1991 to 1996, the only Republican POTUS she ever voted
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:07 PM
Oct 2021
for was Ford. The last time she was a registered Republican was 25 years ago.

Warren grew up in an FDR Democratic household.

Her first vote the POTUS was AGAINST Nixon in 1972. She did vote for Ford, but liked Carter. She voted Carter in 1980 and Mondale in 1984. In 1988 she voted for Dukakis, and in 1992, Clinton. Obviously voted for Clinton again in 1996 and every other Democrat since then. She registered as a Republican because she had moved to PA and liked Arlen Specter, who also switched to our Party from Republican.

Her first presidential vote, in 1972, had been cast against a man she said she disliked passionately, Richard Nixon. But reflecting on how little she had paid attention to day-to-day politics at the time, she couldn’t immediately recall who had been running against him. When told it was Democrat George McGovern, she said, Yes, she would have voted for him but didn’t have any specific memory of having done so. (She was living in New Jersey at the time.) Going to the polls, she said, was nothing new for her. Warren’s mother had been a poll worker and brought her young daughter to the polls each Election Day.

Nixon was re-elected that year, of course, but resigned and was replaced by Gerald Ford. Warren said she had voted for him in 1976, believing that “Ford was a decent man.” But she was happy with Jimmy Carter, who beat him. “I thought he [also] was a decent man,” she said, transferring her then-standard for what she wanted in a politician from Ford to Carter. “He was a really good man.”

As the ’80s wore on and her research on bankruptcy progressed, Warren started waking up politically. At the time, though, the two parties had yet to separate entirely along ideological lines, as some deeply conservative and racist Democrats still held office, as did some genuinely liberal Republicans. In 1988, Warren voted for Michael Dukakis but, in 1992, split her ticket, voting for Republican Arlen Specter for Senate and Democrat Bill Clinton for president. Specter is a good example of the one-time flexibility of the party system and the politicians within it: He began and ended his career as a Democrat, but was a Republican for much of the middle of it. By the fall of 1987, she had moved to Pennsylvania and registered there as a Republican. Warren said she couldn’t quite remember why she did it but that she was a fan of Specter. “Again, I thought he was a decent man,” she said. She couldn’t recall whom he ran against. (His Democratic opponent was Lynn Yeakel.) That GOP registration, though, has set off speculation over the years that one of the Senate’s most progressive champions may have at one time been a Ronald Reagan backer.

So we asked her: Is it true? Is it possible the champion of the regulatory cops on Wall Street voted for the man who made deregulation a hallmark of his presidency?

No.

In 1980, she said, she was a registered independent living in Missouri City, Texas, and cast her vote to re-elect Carter.

When Reagan won, she wasn’t happy but not crushed the way she was on election night in 2016. “I was disappointed and didn’t like him, but I wasn’t deeply worried for the country, not anything like when Trump was elected,” she explained. If she could go back in time, she said, she would tell herself “this was a far more pivotal historical moment than you understand.”



https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/12/elizabeth-warren-profile-young-republican-2020-president-226613

According to Warren, in the six presidential elections she voted in before 1996, she cast her ballot for just one GOP nominee, Gerald Ford in 1976.



https://www.boston.com/uncategorized/noprimarytagmatch/2012/08/19/for-professor-warren-a-steep-climb/

In some ways, her reluctance to join the liberal professors in protest was not surprising. Warren was a registered Republican from 1991 to 1996, according to voter registration records in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Her husband was registered as an independent there.



Warren also tied for 2nd lowest Trump score in the entire Senate back when McTurtle was running things

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/





LeftInTX

(25,138 posts)
11. Yes, my sister was friends with her back then. They go way back
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:59 PM
Oct 2021

I met her too, but don't remember her.

Celerity

(43,119 posts)
12. I will go with the great Senator from Massachusetts' words over some anon poster's smear
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:07 AM
Oct 2021

of an elected Democrat all day long.











calguy

(5,294 posts)
4. In times like these....
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:32 PM
Oct 2021

We can use all the help we can get. Big tents yield more votes than narrow ideologies.I'm not a Texas voter, but if Dowd can pull republican votes to our side, I'm all for it.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Think there are some Republicans from that period who would make
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 10:36 PM
Oct 2021

decent Democrats, certainly no worse than incumbent GOPers.

Don’t know anything about Dowd, but there were some relatively decent Republicans in bush’s admin in Medicare, Medicaid, immigration. Hagel and a few others come to mind as well.

But, yeah, I’d be suspicious.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,934 posts)
9. Dowd helped elect Ann Richards and Bob Bullock (who was the last Democrat elected to statewide offic
Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:47 PM
Oct 2021

I know a couple of people who worked hard to get Dowd into this race. I have been on a panel with Mike Collier and he is a CPA who makes tax accountants look exciting

This is Texas and Dowd fits in well with Beto and Joe Jaworski (the likely AG candidate)

I saw this today


Susan Calvin

(1,646 posts)
19. Well, I'm glad I posted this.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 06:44 AM
Oct 2021

I will look into Dowd more. But he better sell his good points and distance himself from W, because a lot of people are going to have the same knee jerk reaction I had.

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