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left-of-center2012

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"I'm going to need some change for this." nt Tommy Carcetti Oct 2021 #1
For the Laundromat! vanlassie Oct 2021 #3
Ok in that case jcgoldie Oct 2021 #2
Dr. Evil wants jpak Oct 2021 #4
I don't pretend to understand how this works, but it sounds like the sovereign citizen nonsense of FSogol Oct 2021 #5
John Lewis ? left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #14
But the U.S. *really is* the sovereign. marybourg Oct 2021 #17
Talk about fiat money keithbvadu2 Oct 2021 #6
"thanks to Congressional intransigence on both sides of the aisle" bahboo Oct 2021 #7
Not bullshit, prepared and purposeful propaganda carried so willingly for the fascists. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #10
I would like this to happen. LakeArenal Oct 2021 #8
Would plunge the value of the dollar zipplewrath Oct 2021 #15
The worlds reserve currency has all kinds of enormous benefits and perks like this. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2021 #9
What would happen Disaffected Oct 2021 #11
According to Warren Buffett, the fact that we mint our own money Sogo Oct 2021 #12
This is simply note going to happen underpants Oct 2021 #13
Great until some drunk treasury employee sticks it in a vending machine because they want a bag of Takket Oct 2021 #16
"What if someone puts it in a vending machine?" left-of-center2012 Oct 2021 #18
......... Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #19
Don't lose it. N/t ColinC Oct 2021 #20

Tommy Carcetti

(44,497 posts)
1. "I'm going to need some change for this." nt
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:27 PM
Oct 2021

vanlassie

(6,248 posts)
3. For the Laundromat!
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:29 PM
Oct 2021

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
2. Ok in that case
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:29 PM
Oct 2021

May finally break down and buy that metal detector… 🤷‍♂️

jpak

(41,780 posts)
4. Dr. Evil wants
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:31 PM
Oct 2021

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
5. I don't pretend to understand how this works, but it sounds like the sovereign citizen nonsense of
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:32 PM
Oct 2021

claiming they aren't a person in court or claiming that they aren't driving, they are freely traveling.



Ps, that said, why not add John Lewis to the 1 trillion dollar coin?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
14. John Lewis ?
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:46 PM
Oct 2021

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
17. But the U.S. *really is* the sovereign.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:50 PM
Oct 2021

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
6. Talk about fiat money
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:33 PM
Oct 2021

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
7. "thanks to Congressional intransigence on both sides of the aisle"
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:34 PM
Oct 2021

bull fucking shit....

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
10. Not bullshit, prepared and purposeful propaganda carried so willingly for the fascists.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:40 PM
Oct 2021

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
8. I would like this to happen.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:35 PM
Oct 2021

I don’t know any merits of doing so
and my opinion is solely on my own research.....

“‘Own” the Cons...... Woo 🥂🍾🥳😆🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
15. Would plunge the value of the dollar
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:46 PM
Oct 2021

This is basically "printing money" and potentially would plunge the value of the dollar. The only real solution here is for Congress to pay their bills.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. The worlds reserve currency has all kinds of enormous benefits and perks like this.
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:39 PM
Oct 2021

Disaffected

(6,399 posts)
11. What would happen
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:41 PM
Oct 2021

if you put it in a vending machine??

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
12. According to Warren Buffett, the fact that we mint our own money
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:45 PM
Oct 2021

is exactly the reason that the US never has to worry about its debt.


Warren Buffett explains the simple reason why the US will never default on its debt:



At the 2020 Berkshire Hathaway Annual Shareholders Meeting on Saturday, which was closed to the public due to Covid-19 but livestreamed on Yahoo Finance, billionaire investor Warren Buffett carefully explained in simple terms why the U.S. will never default on its debt.

When a concerned shareholder asked him whether there was a risk, he didn’t prevaricate, but started with a “no.”

“If you print bonds in your own currency, what happens to the currency will be the question,” said Buffett. “But you don’t default. The U.S. has been smart to issue its debt in its own currency.”

Other countries don’t do this, Buffett pointed out.

“Argentina is now having a problem because the debt isn’t in their own currency, and lots of countries have had that problem,” he said. “And lots of competent countries will have that problem in the future.”



Over the years, many have worried about the growing national debt as tax cuts and spending have created an ever-widening gap between revenue and outflows. But in his explanation, Buffett highlighted the distinctions that make the U.S. Treasury much different than your personal checkbook.

Mainly, the government owns the printing press to pay the money to the holders of its debt.

“It is very painful to owe money in somebody else’s currency,” said Buffett. “If I could issue a currency Buffett bucks, and I had a printing press and I could borrow money, I would never default.”

This is a common refrain of Modern Monetary Theory as well as longtime Fed Chair Alan Greenspan, who once said something similar: "The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So there is zero probability of default."

The chief worry about just printing money to pay obligations is inflation.

“What you end up getting in terms of purchasing power can be in doubt,” Buffett said.

But whether the U.S. can pay the dollars that it owes is not in doubt. The Oracle of Omaha noted back to when Standard & Poor’s downgraded the U.S.’s credit rating in 2011.

“To me that did not make sense,” he said. “How you can regard any corporation as stronger than a person who can print the money to pay you, I just don’t understand. So don’t worry about the government defaulting.”

underpants

(196,490 posts)
13. This is simply note going to happen
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:45 PM
Oct 2021

That is all.

Takket

(23,714 posts)
16. Great until some drunk treasury employee sticks it in a vending machine because they want a bag of
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:47 PM
Oct 2021

Cheetos.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
18. "What if someone puts it in a vending machine?"
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:51 PM
Oct 2021

Can't believe these kind of responses.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
19. .........
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:56 PM
Oct 2021


*responding to the above poster who made the joke*

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
20. Don't lose it. N/t
Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:56 PM
Oct 2021
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