"Obstruction of Justice" in plain sight.

[Kid Berwyn]

At Trump’s request, former advisers to defy subpoenas from Congressional Jan. 6 committee: report

By DAVE GOLDINER
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS | OCT 06, 2021

Four of Trump’s most loyal aides are reportedly poised to defy subpoenas by the House select committee investigating the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6.

Ex-chief of staff Mark Meadows and onetime political supremo Steve Bannon plan to resist the legal summonses from the panel, along with social media guru Dan Scavino and Pentagon aide Kash Patel, The Guardian first reported.

The panel demanded all documents, emails, and call records related to the Capitol attack by Thursday and to testify behind closed doors next week.

Trump’s defense lawyer, former deputy White House counsel Patrick Philbin, intends to tell the aides that they cannot testify without breaching Trump’s right to get confidential advice from aides, otherwise known as executive privilege.

Snip…

Trump’s strategy of stonewalling Congress closely hews to the plan he used to prevent House Democrats from deposing his top advisers about other scandals, including the investigation into Russian collusion with the 2016 Trump presidential campaign.

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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-government/ny-capitol-riot-congressional-committee-subpoena-20211006-shlgd2wwqbcsrohelukyva5g3u-story.html

Dim Donnie can claim “Executive Privilege” until the Devin Nuneses come home, but the facts show he is doing all he can to avoid a charge of conspiracy to commit treason.

[malaise]

1. Criminal contempt coming up

Let's go Dems!

[Kid Berwyn]

17. Trump tried to overthrow the Government of the United States.

On September 20, we learned that after last year’s election, John Eastman, a well-connected lawyer advising former president Donald Trump, outlined a six-point plan to overturn the outcome of the election and install Trump as America’s leader.

They planned to cut the voters’ actual choice, Democrat Joe Biden, out of power: as Trump advisor Steve Bannon put it, they planned to “kill the Biden presidency in the crib.” This appears to have been the plan that Trump and his loyalists tried to execute on January 6.

That is, we now have written proof of an attempt to destroy our democracy and replace it with an autocracy.

This was not some crazy plot of some obscure dude in a shack in the mountains; this was a plan of the president of the United States of America, and it came perilously close to succeeding. The president of the United States tried to overturn the results of an election — the centerpiece of our democracy — and install himself into power illegitimately.

If this is not a hair-on-fire, screaming emergency, what is?

Continues…

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/heather-richardson/eastman-memo-written-proof-trumps-attempt-replace-democracy-autocracy/

[malaise]

23. They should all die in prison

That is all

[MyOwnPeace]

26. Hey Kid, you're alright - I like the way you think!

Great analysis and summation -

CLIFF NOTES:

LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!
LOCK THEM UP!

[Kid Berwyn]

43. You are a pal, MyOwnPeace! What's the frequency, Donald?

[Evolve Dammit]

28. Flags and "Save america" slogans. They are alternate reality alright. Violent and dangerous. Buckle.

[Kid Berwyn]

48. When they say, "Lock her up!" They mean, "Heil, Trump!"

President Donald Trump tweeted out a smiling photo of himself with Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov. Photo courtesy of TASS, as no US or world press were alerted to meeting.

From one of the outstanding writers of our time and country:

"Obamagate" and "Lock her up": Pointing the way toward "Heil Trump"

It’s not just a chant at Trump's rallies or lame wordplay in his tweets. It’s his call to fascist rule

By LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV
PUBLISHED MAY 16, 2020

Excerpt…

That presaged by 24 hours his now-famous exchange with Philip Rucker of the Washington Post in the Rose Garden, when Rucker asked him, "What crime, exactly, are you accusing President Obama of committing?"

"Obamagate," Trump replied, refusing to define the "crime" or provide any specific evidence. So Rucker followed up: "What is the crime, exactly, that you're accusing him of?" Trump shot him what passed for an angry look: "You know what the crime is," Trump answered. "The crime is very obvious to everybody."

What was Obamagate, pundits asked each other with puzzled looks on their faces, as the week wore on? They should have known that it would have something to do with Michael Flynn, Trump's former national security adviser, who lasted all of 24 days in the job before being fired for lying to Vice President Mike Pence about his phone call with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in late December of 2016. Flynn was later charged with lying to the FBI, pled guilty twice, and has been awaiting sentencing for more than two years. Trump's Department of Justice, under the direction of Large Lickspittle Bill Barr, moved to drop the charges against Flynn last week, which generated a letter signed by 2,000 former Justice Department officials denouncing the motion filed by Little Lickspittle Timothy Shea, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. The judge in the case will hold hearings on the matter and has not yet issued a ruling.

There is a perfect symmetry to the involvement of Michael Flynn in Trump's latest attempt to deflect attention from his inept handling of the coronavirus crisis, which has caused the infections of more than 1.4 million Americans and the deaths of more than 87,000 nationwide. Flynn enjoyed a singular distinction during the transition between the Obama and Trump administrations, besides his coziness with Russian bankers and ambassadors. Obama gave Trump only one piece of personal advice during their private meeting in the White House after Trump was elected: Whatever you do, don't hire Michael Flynn. For anything. Ever.

Continues…

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/16/obamagate-and-lock-her-up-pointing-the-way-toward-heil-trump/

Big Lie ex Machina

[Evolve Dammit]

54. Such a vile party Repugs are, to allow it all to happen. Shows you how fragile it all is. 5 years.

[blm]

2. Gee, what are they hiding?

They should WANT to testify under oath to express Trump’s innocence as they observed it.

[Kid Berwyn]

41. Nothing says, "Innocent!" like skipping town before trial.

Then, again, they really do have some accounting to do…

Bannon says he discussed how to 'kill this administration in the crib' with Trump before Jan. 6

by Monique Beals
The Hill, September 23, 2021

Former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon admitted on his podcast that he told President Trump to "kill this administration in the crib early on" ahead of the Biden presidency and the Jan. 6 insurrection.

"We said and told President Trump. 'you need to kill this administration in the crib early on just by its own incompetence and its illegitimacy,'" Bannon said on Wednesday's episode of his podcast.

"It killed itself," Bannon continued. "Just let this go with what this illegitimate regime is doing. It killed itself. We told you from the very beginning. Just expose it. Just expose it. Never back down. Never give up. This thing will implode.”

Continues…

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/573617-bannon-says-he-discussed-how-to-kill-this-administration-in-the-crib

…and We the People should be the ones demanding accountability.

[Takket]

3. We all knew that was coming. Now what? Arrests?

[Maraya1969]

6. There had better be arrests. I am so tired of people just ignorning the laws of this country

because tDrump tells them to. They need to face the consequences of their actions. And if I did it I would expect to be in jail - so there is where they also belong.

[Evolve Dammit]

30. Yep.

[Kid Berwyn]

49. Sooner the Better.

Read 2/3 GOP think the election was stolen. Seems like the Big Lie is working.

So, before the Big Lie spreads into the minds of Independent and other voters, I recommend putting the traitors on trial sooner rather than later.

Poll: Two-thirds of Republicans still think the 2020 election was rigged

https://news.yahoo.com/poll-two-thirds-of-republicans-still-think-the-2020-election-was-rigged-165934695.html

[Moostache]

4. Charge Trump.

Period.
There is enough circumstantial evidence and contemporaneous notes to warrant a trial. Then, in discovery, depose all of these assholes under oath and under pain of imprisonment for obstruction of justice if they refuse. Make the motherfuckers plead the 5th but get them under oath and on the record.

Trump is a worthless piece of shit with one quality lacking in those trying to bring him to justice - he does not give any fucks about anything that does not assist me in staying free tomorrow, period.

You want to take him down? Put him on the defense and make him testify.

Enough select commissions and investigations and nonsense...role the raw footage or his speech and his 'rally'; then make him explain just how the governor of Georgia or the Vice-President were going to save his presidential bid.

Oh, and fuck Donald Trump with used, dirty hypodermics gathered from the gutter.

[MyOwnPeace]

27. Hello, Attorney General........

are you ready to do your job?

[Evolve Dammit]

32. Patiently waiting.... for something/ anything

[MyOwnPeace]

36. And how many are playing the game......

for our 'patience' to run out?

[Kid Berwyn]

51. And his co-conspirators.

Accomplices who deserve to appear before a Federal Grand Jury, in addition to various functionaries and apparatchiks, include members of the Senate and House of Representatives.

And the Russia Thing. Demented Donnie was more than a menace. Remember when CIA had to withdraw an Agent planted — working — in Putin's office?

CIA feared Drumpf would reveal the Agent’s existence to Putin and compromise a vital mission vacuuming all he or she could from Putin’s literal desktop.

https://www.vox.com/2019/9/9/20856915/cnn-trump-russia-spy-putin-cia



Plus ALL their friends outside government.

[Botany]

5. Time to reopen the US Capitol's jail.

Issue arrest warrants and send out US Marshalls to pick
em up.

Are we a nation of laws or men?

[wnylib]

19. That is an option and probably

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what will happen. But there is a process to get there. Congress needs to declare them in contempt. It has to go to a DC grand jury. Then US marshalls can arrest them.

[blueinredohio]

40. I won't hold my breath.

[Kid Berwyn]

53. Seconded.

Those who cooperate, great. They will be publicly recognized for testifying. Their testimony will be weighed and considered whether true, based in fact and reality — or not. If true and leads to charges, so be it.

Those who refuse to cooperate, well. They too deserve public recognition, in addition to charges, trial and condemnation, they merit the epitaph, “Traitor.”

[barbtries]

7. lock them up.

just fucking lock them up. JEEZUS

[ybbor]

8. If they are not jailed we are lost

If he keeps getting away with it why would he stop doing it.

Time to play hardball with these seditious bastards!

[czarjak]

9. Russia is a ruse, right?

[Kid Berwyn]

52. Not a sideshow at all, almost a main event.

In the Oval Office in the merry month of May 2017

President Trump gestures to Russia's ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, as he speaks to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office on Wednesday, May 10, 2017. (Alexander Shcherbak/TASS/Getty Images)

“I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump said, according to The Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off.”



"I'm not under investigation," he added.

Sources:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/10/527755991/trump-meets-with-russias-lavrov-at-the-white-house-today

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nut-job-james-comey-russia-2017-5

Fast forward…

Trump Assured Putin His Tough Act Was ‘For the Cameras,’ Former Aide Stephanie Grisham Says

”You understand,“ former president told Russian leader, according to president’s former aide

Lindsey Ellefson
The Wrap | September 28, 2021

Donald Trump assured Russian President Vladimir Putin he was only acting “tougher” for the cameras when they spoke in 2019, according to former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham in her new memoir.

According to an advance copy of Grisham’s forthcoming tell-all “I’ll Take Your Questions Now” obtained by The Washington Post, Grisham says she witnessed Trump telling Putin in advance of a press meeting during the 2019 Group of 20 Summit, “Okay, I’m going to act a little tougher with you for a few minutes. But it’s for the cameras, and after they leave, we’ll talk. You understand.”

“I’ll Take Your Questions Now,” due out on Oct. 5, also discusses the former president’s trip to Walter Reed Medical Center in 2019, for which no explanation was ever provided at the time. According to the Post, Grisham strongly hints that Trump underwent a standard colonoscopy, but rather than advocate for the procedure for older Americans or use the chance to demystify it, he opted to stay silent — not least of all because he didn’t want to put then-vice president Mike Pence in charge.

Continues…

https://www.thewrap.com/trump-assured-putin-his-tough-act-was-for-the-cameras-former-aide-stephanie-grisham-says/

Putin American interests second, da.

[Vinca]

10. Enough of this BS. The committee needs to make referrals to the Justice Dept. ASAP

and get it before a judge.

[gab13by13]

12. Yes, that is the correct process.

The select committee can't indict but only refer matters to the DOJ. The DOJ has much more power than the select committee.

[Justice matters.]

18. THIS

If DOJ/Garland Fails To Prosecute Trump, Here's The Dangerous Precedent That Will Be Set

[kacekwl]

29. Watching this again makes me wonder how in

the ever loving hell did a failed businessman low rent reality figure find himself in a position to fuck the world up in the way he has. I still can't understand it.

[Justice matters.]

38. Lies from hate radio and cable propaganda for years and years.

And "free" campaign air-time on mass-media outlets.

"Lock her up" chants based on no factual evidence on so-called "social" media 24/7 paid by Putin's troll farm.

And a Electoral College where the candidate who got 3 million LESS votes "won" ...

[jalan48]

11. If we can't enforce subpoenas when we are in charge I'd say we're pretty much fucked.

[gab13by13]

13. If we can't even serve the subpoenas

we are truly fucked.

[jalan48]

16. Yep. It's as if we want to avoid the fight. A new version of look forward not backward.

[MyOwnPeace]

31. Interesting perspective.............

and SO prescient.

I am SO tired of hearing "We must move forward" - "The nation needs to heal" - "It would be seen as 'political'...............

FUCK THEM!!!!!!

They broke the law!
They tried to destroy our democracy!
They think the 'law' does not apply to them!

The DOJ must step forward and do what they are supposed to do - ENFORCE THE LAW!!!!!!!!

SO simple - no 'ifs' - no 'ands' - no 'buts!' - FOLLOW THE LAW!!!!!!!

[erronis]

45. Isn't that "look inward"? Contemplate our own faults, stare at our navels, hide our heads in sand.

And maybe the world will be a better place.

Meanwhile the carnivores are arming themselves and moving into places of total dominance.

[Crunchy Frog]

57. What we would be looking forward to is the death of our democracy and the advent of

RW authoritarian rule. I hope that they understand that.

[uponit7771]

60. +1

[Kid Berwyn]

61. Today the Senate Committee on the Judiciary issued a report that agrees with us.

FINDING 1: President Trump repeatedly asked DOJ leadership to endorse his false claims that the election was stolen and to assist his efforts to overturn the election results.

FINDING 2: White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows asked Acting Attorney General Rosen to initiate election fraud investigations on multiple occasions, violating longstanding restrictions on White House-DOJ communications about specific law- enforcement matters.

FINDING 3: After personally meeting with Trump, Jeffrey Bossert Clark pushed Rosen and Donoghue to assist Trump’s election subversion scheme—and told Rosen he would decline Trump’s potential offer to install him as Acting Attorney General if Rosen agreed to aid that scheme.

FINDING 4: Trump allies with links to the “Stop the Steal” movement and the January 6 insurrection participated in the pressure campaign against DOJ.

FINDING 5: Trump forced the resignation of U.S. Attorney Byung Jin (“BJay”) Pak, whom he believed was not doing enough to address false claims of election fraud in Georgia. Trump then went outside the line of succession when naming an Acting U.S. Attorney, bypassing First Assistant U.S. Attorney Kurt Erskine and instead appointing Bobby Christine because he believed Christine would “do something” about his election fraud claims.

FINDING 6: By pursuing false claims of election fraud before votes were certified, DOJ deviated from longstanding practice meant to avoid inserting DOJ itself as an issue in the election.

Source: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Interim%20Staff%20Report%20FINAL.pdf

[Snackshack]

14. Dems

Need to be prepared to play hard ball.

[NBachers]

15. Arrest Warrants! This is where the rubber meets the road. Do it or lose it all.

[Bluethroughu]

20. When I see that SAVE AMERICA banner it makes me furious!

Save America from what, DEMOCRACY??
Damn traitors!
Lock them up where they had all the immigrant children with no blankets, beds, or toothbrushes!

[hadEnuf]

21. Quit screwing around with these assholes and jail them for contempt.

They are openly treasonous bastards and they are laughing in the face of the government they want to destroy and replace with a fascist junta. Time to get tough with these pieces of shit.

Who the fuck are we?

[Mr. Ected]

22. I quit paying attention when Mueller was shut down

There is no justice any longer. I sometimes wonder if there ever was.

Sell a joint in a red state and spend time in jail. Overthrow your "liberal" government and you're a patriot.

I'll continue to fight the good fight, but like so many esteemed governments in world history, the USA is doomed to crash and burn because its constituents allowed the rich to play them like children's toys.

[MyOwnPeace]

33. Thought about that earlier today......

WTF?

Why not just start with 'THE MUELLER REPORT!'

Tell us what's there and we'll go forward from that point.

Failure to do so is damning BOTH parties!

SCREW THEM!

We are the voting, tax-paying citizens - we deserve to know!

[Duppers]

56. What happened with Mueller?

Why was he such a restrained coward? He could have turned this around with the facts.

[usaf-vet]

24. No sense writing it twice. This comment from an eariler post fits here as well.

So here it is again.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15928501

[erronis]

47. Thanks. Only so many articles I can see in a day. Your link to FelineOverlord is a good one.

[Ohioboy]

25. Why is it so hard to get justice with these assholes?

We're talking insurrection here. This isn't some political stunt like the Benghazi hearings.

[Calista241]

34. They can always just exercise their 5th amendment rights.

Not much anyone can do about that. Then they'll be on tv saying this partisan, one sided investigation is looking to assign blame, any blame on them.

Think the committee would even think about giving anyone immunity?

[PurgedVoter]

35. How far does TFG have to go before it is called 'obstruction of justice?'

He has absolutely no right to executive privilege. As he tries to claim it, his lawyers need to have it explained to them and then they need to be disbarred if they keep this up. TFG is interfering with and threatening witnesses. How clear does this have to be?

[2Gingersnaps]

37. Remember when the Republican Congress imprisoned Susan McDougal

for 18 months during the Whitewater investigation? Also known as the "throw as much shit at wall, something will stick sooner or later, Richard Mellon Scaife is paying us to do this" investigation? The one in which Newt and Company were as guilty, if not more so, of anything they were accusing Clinton of, especially Monica? Only Newt's back seat babe went on to be Mrs. Gingrich #3 and Vatican Ambassador, Monica got hounded to the gates of hell. David Vitter was frequenting prostitutes in a diaper and Mrs. Vitter was lecturing Hillary on "standing by her man." Mrs. Vitter got a Federal Bench seat standing by her man. Denny Hastert was raping children. Family values you know. But that was so much worse than over throwing our Constitutional Republic, obviously.

[Champp]

39. Republican traitors attack America and American democracy

Lock them up.

[LymphocyteLover]

42. Fine. LOCK THEM UP.

throw their evil asses in jail and throw away the key

[mac56]

44. Old enough to remember

[Lucky Luciano]

46. Am I the only one who thought "til the Devin Nuneses come home"...

…is fucking hilarious?

[triron]

50. Damn it, arrest the motherfucker already!

Damn DOJ, FBI wtf?

[Duppers]

55. Federal Marshals.

Bring them in.

[Crunchy Frog]

58. If the Democrats decline to play major hardball with this, then I can only conclude

that they are complicit in the end of democracy and the advent of fascist rule in this country.

I wonder what they think such a show of weakness will have on Democratic turnout in upcoming elections. I'll vote for as long as I'm able, but I wonder how many others will bother.

[Sewa]

59. Wouldn't be the fist time he got away with it

Lester Holt interview ring a bell💀🤙