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Sen. Whitehouse on MSNBC: "McConnell Caved" (Original Post) berni_mccoy Oct 2021 OP
Definately THIS ⬇️ Budi Oct 2021 #1
That's it, exactly. wryter2000 Oct 2021 #3
Wut? You mean Dems are NOT in Disarray afterall? But..but.. Media said so! Budi Oct 2021 #8
Dems in Delight! CaptainTruth Oct 2021 #21
Lol. I do like that one! Budi Oct 2021 #38
+++++ PortTack Oct 2021 #34
Not sure it's wise to rub it in. wryter2000 Oct 2021 #2
I actually think that rubbing it in may not be a bad idea. Ursus Rex Oct 2021 #11
Mitch is cold and calculating. Rubbing it in might bring his heart berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #19
What heart? calimary Oct 2021 #24
Lol berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #26
Aw, come on wryter2000 Oct 2021 #30
Of, rub it in! Loud! Democrats saved our nation from Republican Hortensis Oct 2021 #25
oh, its wise, remember mcturtle did the same on fox news bragging about his obstructionism. nt yaesu Oct 2021 #40
Great. Now what/ What did he agree too? themaguffin Oct 2021 #4
Basically He Agreed To Kick The Can For 2 Months SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #5
And Dems Can STILL Tinker With The Filibuster at that time if he dicks around Beetwasher. Oct 2021 #12
No unless Uncle Joe and Aunt Kyrsten go along with it. n/t totodeinhere Oct 2021 #36
That's a TERRIBLE idea. themaguffin Oct 2021 #14
You're Not The First On DU To Say This SoCalDavidS Oct 2021 #16
Politics is messy! This is an improvement over letting the US default PortTack Oct 2021 #27
it's just delaying the end. We've seen this before. A shit show before Christmas themaguffin Oct 2021 #37
Same Timeline Now DallasNE Oct 2021 #23
there is no supporting evidence for this beyond his statement during an interview nt msongs Oct 2021 #6
I don't know about you, but I'll take Sen. Whitehouse berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #20
Yes, McConnell caved gratuitous Oct 2021 #7
They're frantically rewriting the headline, as we speak! Budi Oct 2021 #9
"McConnell Save Dems From Total Disarray!" Budi Oct 2021 #17
How so? budkin Oct 2021 #10
Sweet words to hear, but I don't think they're necessarily true. All this did is delay Vinca Oct 2021 #13
He did Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #15
K & R Budi Oct 2021 #18
Not sure Sheldon should have been so explicit. triron Oct 2021 #22
I'm quite pleased that Dems are finally in the mode of berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #28
What's he going to do that he hasn't already done ? I think he was genuinely beaten on this one. OnDoutside Oct 2021 #31
The gqp tried this with President Clinton and President Obama. It didn't work then either, and they PortTack Oct 2021 #29
Repigs will have to learn the hard way Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2021 #32
Traitor..Definitely believe that the donors pushed him helpisontheway Oct 2021 #33
I dislike the phrase "his wealthy backers" Orrex Oct 2021 #35
You are SO Right!!! . . . . "His wealthy owners" is the correct description! liberalla Oct 2021 #42
His perception of things was interesting ecstatic Oct 2021 #39
I suppose 3 or 4 Republican Senators politely told Mitch they could not go along with his idea... kentuck Oct 2021 #41
In so doing, McConnell gets to flex his political muscle. ffr Oct 2021 #43
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #44
Sen. Whitehouse is always so smart and so eloquent. femmedem Oct 2021 #45
Good or bad? manicdem Oct 2021 #46
We'll see.. Patton French Oct 2021 #47

wryter2000

(46,036 posts)
3. That's it, exactly.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 04:56 PM
Oct 2021

And Biden stood his/our ground.

Let's hear from the "The Dems are weak!" crowd.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
8. Wut? You mean Dems are NOT in Disarray afterall? But..but.. Media said so!
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:04 PM
Oct 2021

Seee!

Dems are fierce negotiators, standing solid in our belief of right over wrong, good vs evil, strength before cowardice.

And onward we go!

#JoeBiden💙TeamDemocrats

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
38. Lol. I do like that one!
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:48 PM
Oct 2021

How hard is it to get it trending?

We need to buy that Zuckerburg algorithum to blast it out on social & msm

Ursus Rex

(148 posts)
11. I actually think that rubbing it in may not be a bad idea.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:08 PM
Oct 2021

Yeah, it may PO McConnell, but he's already gonna do what he's gonna do, whereas it's a MAJOR PR statement that Dems can fight and win, but only if you elect them ...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Of, rub it in! Loud! Democrats saved our nation from Republican
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:51 PM
Oct 2021

willingness to blow the economy up to spite us, and with it the wellbeing of millions of people and businesses.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
5. Basically He Agreed To Kick The Can For 2 Months
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 04:59 PM
Oct 2021

The new deadline is now in December.

ZERO chance they let the economy blow up right before Christmas. But we'll see what the next 2 months bring.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
23. Same Timeline Now
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:48 PM
Oct 2021

As FY2022 appropriations. This makes sense Now the spending and debt ceiling can be set in unison, as they should be. Can Congress pull it off?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Yes, McConnell caved
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:02 PM
Oct 2021

But how long will it take our faultless popular media to morph this into "Biden's narrow escape"?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. They're frantically rewriting the headline, as we speak!
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:06 PM
Oct 2021

"Biden's narrow escape"

"Dems are This Close to total Disarray!"

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
13. Sweet words to hear, but I don't think they're necessarily true. All this did is delay
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:11 PM
Oct 2021

the whole exercise a couple of months. What could be better for Mitch than if people think they won't get government checks or services around Christmas?

triron

(21,995 posts)
22. Not sure Sheldon should have been so explicit.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:46 PM
Oct 2021

Hope it doesn't put McConnell into a threatened corner; maybe Mitch might change his mind?

Otherwise very good news.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
28. I'm quite pleased that Dems are finally in the mode of
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 05:59 PM
Oct 2021

Let’s not give a shit about GOP feelings

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
31. What's he going to do that he hasn't already done ? I think he was genuinely beaten on this one.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:14 PM
Oct 2021

Maybe it was Big Finance, maybe it was the fear that Manchin would back a carve out on the Debt Ceiling, I think the truth will out on this soon enough.

PortTack

(32,754 posts)
29. The gqp tried this with President Clinton and President Obama. It didn't work then either, and they
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:07 PM
Oct 2021

Were the ones blamed.

The kicking it down the road 2 months.....how many times have they pulled this stunt? A lot more than 2! They will cave again. turtle is wanting to save face.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
33. Traitor..Definitely believe that the donors pushed him
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:27 PM
Oct 2021

Jonathan Lemire said Romney was backing McConnell up on it. He was gonna fall in line behind his leader..🙄

Orrex

(63,200 posts)
35. I dislike the phrase "his wealthy backers"
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:39 PM
Oct 2021

I prefer "his wealthy owners."

Regardless, this is great news!

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
39. His perception of things was interesting
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 06:52 PM
Oct 2021

At first I thought he was a little too naive but as the interview progressed, he seemed to be fully aware of the stakes. He also acknowledged that mbitch may have been concerned about democrats using the filibuster. I hope he heard some of what was said prior to his interview. Use your power, Dems!!!

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
41. I suppose 3 or 4 Republican Senators politely told Mitch they could not go along with his idea...
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 07:20 PM
Oct 2021

..about not voting to raise the debt limit and he simply did not have the votes. That is the only language he cares about and the only language he understands.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
43. In so doing, McConnell gets to flex his political muscle.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 07:24 PM
Oct 2021

being both the bad guy working against the United States for not funding payments on the deferred tax debt he and his republican colleagues have run up and by being the seemingly good guy, trying to insure fiscal responsibility for the deferred tax debt he and his republican colleagues have run up.

But will anyone phrase it that way? Hell no!

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
45. Sen. Whitehouse is always so smart and so eloquent.
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 07:35 PM
Oct 2021

He's also appealingly straightforward with his messaging.

manicdem

(388 posts)
46. Good or bad?
Wed Oct 6, 2021, 07:44 PM
Oct 2021

Is this a good or bad thing for us? I don't see it as a win since it's only temporary and still limits what we want to achieve.

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