We desperately need to put some points on the board.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I'm one of the most Pollyannaish posters on this board but the party and Joe definitely need some wins. That should be empirically obvious to anyone. We need to change the conversation.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. The M$M seems to categorically reject presenting any such ideas, which is a major handicap ...

But yeah ... we do.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Not everything is beyond our control.

We can pass the infrastructure bill(s) and put Joe on the road touting it.

[questionseverything]

9. Once the details of the bbb are worked out

We will pass both together

As for what we can tout right now, democrats have delivered $1400 per person, a $250 tax credit per child monthly and increased food security

Those are off the top of my head

[brush]

10. We're going to get there. The BBB bill won't be 3.5T...

but will probably settle at around 2 trillion, and perhaps for 5 years instead of 10 years once Manchin and Sinema finally get a grip.

Then both bills will pass at the end of this month and we'll be on our way with the Biden agenda.

[Funtatlaguy]

2. Bottom line: SineManchin agree to filibuster carve outs or

democracy dies.
It’s that simple.

[Shermann]

6. I think "Manchynema" works better nt

[Hortensis]

4. Senator Whitehouse said he believes McConnell has folded

on his debt limit brinksmanship. This was after Biden's threat that said we need to consider making a "carveout" of the filibuster so we don't default on paying our bills. He said our play was to push Mitch to the edge until business, foreseeing huge losses if we defaulted, pushed him to fold. He was hoping to somehow force us to use one of our reconciliation cards on funding our bills.

So, still to become official, but looks like some points on the board.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Didn't Manchin say he would vote against the filibuster?

Even to raise the debt ceiling which IMHO is an indefensible position.

[pwb]

7. Thing is the more pukes act trumpy fewer voters will

vote for them. When independents see who they really are they say fuck that and vote with us. They are giving us points on the board everyday IMO.

[PortTack]

11. Absolutely!

[jimfields33]

8. Many are excited that Mcconnell extended the debt increase two months.

[PortTack]

12. Turtle caved..they know it...they're having crow for supper

[mcar]

13. I haven't watched cable news tonight

but the MSM on Twitter is all about this deal being a win for Dems and McConnell caving. That makes me