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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 05:47 AM Oct 2021

They're 'running the state into the ground': 'Lifelong' Republican switches parties to run for gover

State Superintendent Joy Hofmeister sent shockwaves through the political universe in Oklahoma on Wednesday when she announced she is switching parties and registering as a Democrat to run for governor.


"The 57-year-old lifelong Republican told the Tulsa World in an exclusive interview that she is changing her party registration on Thursday in order to launch a bid to unseat Republican incumbent Kevin Stitt," the newspaper reported.

In the interview, Hofmeister had tough words for the GOP incumbent.

"Governor Stitt is running the state into the ground,"
she said. "Through extremism, partisanship, ineffective leadership, he is hurting our education system, our health care, our infrastructure."

https://www.rawstory.com/joy-hofmeister-oklahoma-governor-2022/
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They're 'running the state into the ground': 'Lifelong' Republican switches parties to run for gover (Original Post) UCmeNdc Oct 2021 OP
The first NJCher Oct 2021 #1
I am surprised a Republican actually did this.. denbot Oct 2021 #2
Even Republicans find they can no longer stand the stink Champp Oct 2021 #3
If she wins it will still be a republican run state lame54 Oct 2021 #21
Well, that's the end of her political career! imanamerican63 Oct 2021 #4
That's My Thought As Well COL Mustard Oct 2021 #10
I could not stand Mary Fallen but Stitt actually makes her look avebury Oct 2021 #5
A TFG clone.... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #13
Excellent point. And the results of it would be a sort of modern feudalism. Mister Ed Oct 2021 #19
Wait.. why? quakerboy Oct 2021 #6
I Think Democrats In Oklahoma COL Mustard Oct 2021 #12
I mean, 503 thousand voted for biden quakerboy Oct 2021 #20
No, Oklahoma is barren land for the Democratic Party FakeNoose Oct 2021 #15
A party label says nothing about who you are luv2fly Oct 2021 #7
Yep. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Oct 2021 #18
we don't need any more conservative democrats certainot Oct 2021 #8
💯 Thanks but no thanks. The fact that she jumps ship post TFG speaks volumes. nt live love laugh Oct 2021 #25
Oh yeah, a former Republican/Nazi is certainly someone to trust. johnthewoodworker Oct 2021 #9
I'm A Former Republican COL Mustard Oct 2021 #11
So what's your opinion on when the downfall began for the party? cstanleytech Oct 2021 #14
I Think It Was With The Rise Of The Religious Right COL Mustard Oct 2021 #16
All those pimples sprung up when the acne had no where else to go. jaxexpat Oct 2021 #17
Yes, there are huge differences between conservative/Repub types. Hortensis Oct 2021 #22
I'm Very Much Anti-Extremist COL Mustard Oct 2021 #23
oh, let me guess Skittles Oct 2021 #24

Champp

(2,114 posts)
3. Even Republicans find they can no longer stand the stink
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 06:35 AM
Oct 2021

Of ongoing, systematic Republican lies and obstruction. America deserves far better.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
5. I could not stand Mary Fallen but Stitt actually makes her look
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 07:09 AM
Oct 2021

reasonable in comparison. Stitt is a business man who thinks that can he can run the state as his own fiefdom. He does not understand that there are laws and regulations that you need to follow. I think that he would love to privatize as much as possible but anybody who thinks that you can save tax payer money by privatizing state functions is delusional to say the least.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
13. A TFG clone....
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 07:47 AM
Oct 2021

at the state level.

This is where I think an autocratic president would have problems, on the state and local levels. There are just as many autocratic Governors as there are states, and they won't want to share authority with an autocratic president.

Every republican wants to be the "strongman, or strongwoman" on the local and state levels, but there can only be one dictator, and that dictator isn't going to want to share power with anyone. That's where they're going to run into problems. Will they start taking political prisoners from their own party?

Mister Ed

(5,923 posts)
19. Excellent point. And the results of it would be a sort of modern feudalism.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 09:34 AM
Oct 2021

When authoritarians great and small are left unchecked, a society deteriorates into a chaotic collection of fiefdoms run by competing warlords. Humanity has seen plenty of that, and it isn't pretty.

U.S. democracy must be preserved.

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
6. Wait.. why?
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 07:13 AM
Oct 2021

Does the state not have democrats who can run?

Are republicans barred from running in their own party?

COL Mustard

(5,870 posts)
12. I Think Democrats In Oklahoma
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 07:46 AM
Oct 2021

Could have their convention in a phone booth. I know, that shows how old I am.....but there aren't many of them!

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
20. I mean, 503 thousand voted for biden
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 03:30 PM
Oct 2021

Its not a majority, right near 1/3 which mirrors registration.

But they have a higher portion of the population as Registered Democrats than is registered republican in my state.

And lord knows we have plenty of rep's crawling out of the woodwork constantly.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
15. No, Oklahoma is barren land for the Democratic Party
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 08:12 AM
Oct 2021

The state has been run (and trashed) by evil libertarians for way too long. Rachel Maddow's book "Blowout" tells the story very succinctly.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
7. A party label says nothing about who you are
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 07:24 AM
Oct 2021

These folks who switch parties, I just don't know... saying you are a Democrat tells us nothing about what you believe, nor the policies you will put forward in an effort to help people. Good on her that she's outraged by Republicans in her state, but I suspect most Democrats don't believe there has been any type of sudden enlightenment.

COL Mustard

(5,870 posts)
11. I'm A Former Republican
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 07:45 AM
Oct 2021

But was never a part of the social conservative wing. There are shades of gray here.

cstanleytech

(26,230 posts)
14. So what's your opinion on when the downfall began for the party?
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 08:07 AM
Oct 2021

Mine is when Reagan came into office as the party began to embrace more and more extremists with the final nail being the launch of Fox News.

COL Mustard

(5,870 posts)
16. I Think It Was With The Rise Of The Religious Right
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 08:13 AM
Oct 2021

They were able to overwhelm any opposing voices and they had a vision that they worked tirelessly to achieve. (I don't share that vision, as you may have guessed.). Also, when the NRA went from being a sporting organization to a political-lobbying organization, they were exclusively Republican. That played a big role in it too. You could really be God, guns and America, and ignore anyone who wasn't.

jaxexpat

(6,799 posts)
17. All those pimples sprung up when the acne had no where else to go.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 08:44 AM
Oct 2021

Republicans never had a large enough popular constituency to win anything until Democrats were labeled, simultaneously, the party of deep south racism and socialist tax and spenders. As the Democrats tried to shed those stereotypes the Republicans gathered all the vailable miscreants under a single tent, held their collective nose and ran with creatures such as Reagan. Republicans have always carried on the pretense of sober competence as their right. It was never proven more fallacious than during TFG.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Yes, there are huge differences between conservative/Repub types.
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 04:50 PM
Oct 2021

Growth in extremism is also a big part of what's been going wrong.

Moderate conservative Nicolle Wallace is no more like the strong social and authoritarian (heavy overlap) conservatives who follow tRump than liberal Rachel Maddow is like the LW populists who also expressed their uber-loyalty to their leader by yelling "Lock her up!" at our national convention. Extremism.

COL Mustard

(5,870 posts)
23. I'm Very Much Anti-Extremist
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 05:19 PM
Oct 2021

I’m probably not far enough out for some people, but I much prefer most change to the system from within. I know sometimes there are things that need to be changed radically but for the most part I’d rather work with the system.

Yes, I was boring in the ’70s too. 🤣

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
24. oh, let me guess
Thu Oct 7, 2021, 06:31 PM
Oct 2021

the party of "fiscal responsibility", you know, the the party that lies their way into a senseless war but squawks if you use tax money to actually HELP people

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