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tblue37
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StClone
(11,683 posts)Prosecuting real crimes, sedition, Government corruption, and abuse, not so much.
gab13by13
(21,286 posts)we don't know what we don't know DOJ may or may not be doing behind the scenes.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)Using the impeachments as a guide, and the wanton speculation back then that first Mueller and then Impeachment #1 and then Impeachment #2 were ALL "doing things behind the scenes"...what is happening now is exactly what happened then - JACK FUCKING SQUAT.
There should have been public arrests and frog walks for the cameras a long, long time ago...when the GA. audio tape was released of Trump essentially demanding enough votes be "found" to reverse his loss, THAT was the moment he should have been arrested, charged with subornation or coercing voter fraud and put on trial.
We are getting nothing but the same old playbook - explosive allegation, ham-fisted stonewalling, new allegation and lather, rinse, repeat.
Trump will never be held accountable and if that is true, the United States of America is living on borrowed time before it collapses into either 2 states, with Blue States forming a new country and Red States returning to the dark ages...or a worse case outcome of outright Balkanization of the continent, where things get truly ugly and regional wars become common, political and ethnic cleansing become real in 21st century America and the whole 245 year experiment that is the idea of a secular government of the people, by the people and for the people will indeed perish from the Earth.
gab13by13
(21,286 posts)but when crimes are committed right in the open, even put in writing, or yes, we have the audio of crimes, one is left with one thing to say, WTF.
sop
(10,144 posts)I've had it with the "be patient, you don't know what's going on behind the scenes" crowd. History shows the powerful are seldom held to account.
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Paladin
(28,246 posts)Traildogbob
(8,707 posts)Injustice is infuriating. After todays no shows for subpoenas, there needs to be locks up by morning.
Ohioboy
(3,240 posts)We have had so many signs along the way... signs warning of the slow demise of America.
We are literally at the point where open insurrection is excused and tolerated.
Is there a way back from this point?
BComplex
(8,029 posts)in the USA. This makes that fact glaringly obvious. It is as wrong as anything this country has ever seen.
Richard58
(239 posts)Frankly I am appalled that nothing is being done regarding charging Trump with anything! We have overwhelming evidence that he tried to steal the election but I see zero evidence of him even being charged anytime soon. I keep hearing over and over that they are conducting an "investigation" and investigations take time. Jesus, how much time do you need? It has been 9 months already! Like with the investigations into Gaetz, MTG and Boebert nothing seems to be happening. If this was you or me we would have been in jail a long time ago! But when you are a Republican they just say you are being investigated and the powers-that-be hope that over time you will forget about it. I fear nothing will happen to Trump and the rest of his traitorous ilk. That will give them a free hand to try again! We are on a slippery slope to fascism and no one seems to care! I hate it!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)We've seen this rodeo before.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)Scrivener7
(50,934 posts)Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #19)
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NBachers
(17,097 posts)When was Cyrus Vance Junior planning to drop it all and walk away, again?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)HF! (Holy Fuck!). Cut these people down already!
Rhiannon12866
(205,074 posts)quakerboy
(13,918 posts)To start with.. the trumps have no loyalty to anyone.. if you get any of them.. they will turn on each other. And on everyone else around them.
So you get from trumps to elected republicans. From there it spreads to wealthy donors, and unfortunately to a number of elected democrats.
If they ever really pull those strings.. it starts a whole lot of unraveling. I say do it, but I understand why powerful people are doing their best to make sure that any investigations done are windowdressing.
Martin68
(22,776 posts)to short circuit that process. Democrats don't. "The wheels of justice grind slowly, but exceedingly fine." True justice requires patience and due diligence.
Scrivener7
(50,934 posts)Greek chorus we get here of "YOU ARE AN AWFUL PERSON FOR SAYING YOU WANT TO SEE SOME PROGRESS!"
But I'll say it again: I want to see some progress.
NJCher
(35,645 posts)Its beyond that. The question to each and every one of you is what are you going to do about it?
Scrivener7
(50,934 posts)to move it forward.
"What are you going to do about it?" is a phrase often used by those who want to shut the discussion down about what is the DOJ doing about it.
I am pretty sure that is not your motive at all, and it seems like you have something in mind that we can do.
What is it?
NJCher
(35,645 posts)I think that we need to first find out why this is taking so long. A good person to take on that question would be Glen Kirschner or someone like him.
Trump is currently obstructing justice (telling Bannon et al to ignore the subpoenas). What is the means for charging him for that? Who is the expert to tell us?
The answer for what we can do will be determined by the answers to the above question.
I'd like to write more but it's late. Maybe tomorrow.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)... and 99% of the people who attacked America on J6 were Sikhs and the people who they coordinated with in BDU were all black.
Imagine how ... LIGHTING SPEED ... without give a shit about formalities things would happen.
Now the DOJ should act like that going after Putin's Whore gang less we encourage more of it like appeasement historically has
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)... and 99% of the people who attacked America on J6 were Sikhs and the people who they coordinated with in BDU were all black.
Imagine how ... LIGHTING SPEED ... without give a shit about formalities things would happen.
Now the DOJ should act like that going after Putin's Whore gang less we encourage more of it like appeasement historically has