REVEALED: Cops knew Trump supporters planned to 'kill public officials and carry out a coup'

[CousinIT]

https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-riot-2655246881/

A private intelligence company issued a dire warning on Dec. 24 about Donald Trump supporters plotting a violent insurrection on Jan. 6.

SITE Intelligence Group sent the bulletin, which described in detail the plans being discussed on pro-Trump online forums, to law enforcement agencies and other subscribers more than a week before the riot, which undercuts arguments that authorities failed to respond appropriately because they were unaware of the threat, reported Politico.

"The intelligence was there," said Ryan Shapiro, the executive director of Property of the People. "The agencies had it, Capitol police leadership had it, yet they approached this obvious threat from the far right with a startling degree of nonchalance. Contrast this with the hypervigilant, militaristic state responses to peaceful protests by Black Lives Matter and other progressive groups. Jan. 6 wasn't an intelligence failure. It was a political failure by U.S. intelligence and law enforcement."

Rita Katz, the founder and executive director of SITE, told the website that the response was the most "profound failure to act" she has seen in decades of sharing information with the U.S. government.

"A potpourri of communities overtly strategized to storm the Capitol building and arrest — if not outright kill — public officials and carry out a coup," Katz said.

"Law enforcement officials were alerting their superiors and other agencies to the threats SITE had identified — many of which ended up manifesting that day, just as they were written," Katz added. "These warnings were distributed by the FBI and other agencies well before Jan. 6."

[msongs]

1. so rita katz is gonna volunteer to appear before the jan 6 committtee? nt

[RockRaven]

2. The sad irony being, of course, how many of those coup- and official-killing-planning Trump

supporters were also law enforcement/cops.

They know themselves but don't listen to their own warnings about themselves.

[Eyeball_Kid]

3. So the next questions to ask are...

What was the motivation to NOT ACT? Who was driving this dumbing and numbing? Who was giving the orders to stand down?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. tRump fired non-compliant SecDef Esper Nov 9, installed Chris Miller who BLOCKED NG deploy in writin

Acting Secretary of Defense Miller sent a letter in writing over his signature Jan 4 (pretty certain about the date) requiring the DC NG to get extra special permission from the highest levels before deploying.

There was also the (advisory?) panel tRump appointed with Lewandowsksi and that couch kneeling woman. I think they may have had some role in the blockage.

Esper had been fired because by Nov 9 it was clear even to tRump that some combination of coup or subversion of officials or insurrection was the only way to get a second term. Esper was not going to be reliable to go along with the insurrection part because he had already defied tRump in the summer of 2020 over sending troops to "defend" against the summer protests (tRump knew it would only escalate the situation, his goal to make carnage so he could claim to "fix it&quot . That lead to tRump snatching people off the streets in unmarked vans by ragtag bands of seconded border guards, prison guards and others making up a deputized force of about 200.

[Champp]

8. "...tRump snatching people off the streets..." Whoa! Link?

Is this documented anywhere? Or is it just a rumor?

This assertion needs a link.

[2naSalit]

9. THat was actually going on in Portland...

And was shown all over the Internet at the time during the protests of 2020. Unmarked military dudes grabbing people off the streets and shoving them into vans. There were at least two events I recall seeing video of and others were reported.

It was happening.

[Champp]

11. Oh yeah. I remember those stories.

For what it's worth, Snopes rates the stories as "mixture." Some truth, some exaggeration.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/feds-unmarked-vans-portland/

[2naSalit]

12. Indeed...

I was going to put a little disclaimer on that but I was too lazy, it's still early.

[Hekate]

24. Portland, OR, reported at the time. Unmarked vans. Armed men without insignia saying who ...

…they were working for. Yanking protestors off the street to be transported gods know where.

I remember this vividly.

[Eyeball_Kid]

16. Pop goes the weasel. Miller should be getting a subpoena. n/t

[ancianita]

4. It's not the first time in recent history, either. Ditto what RockRaven says.

And why I suspect the FBI of a pro-white male Republican bias. If there has been any foot-dragging about apprehending and bringing Jan 6 funders, plotters and participants to justice, it's from the FBI and law enforcement, not the DOJ.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130102/09481421547/fbi-working-with-banks-chose-not-to-inform-occupy-leadership-assassination-plot-its-leaders.shtml

Whatever you thought of the so-called "Occupy" movement of the past year or so, it seems clear that there has been at least a bit of overreaction to them. I mean, treating these protests, which have, by and large, been peaceful, as terrorist groups is just silly. But, as you may have seen over the past few days, that's exactly what the FBI did (as uncovered by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund (PCJF)), and they did it in a coordinated manner with both Homeland Security and privately held banking corporations. This certainly isn't the first time government organizations have allowed for the appearance of impropriety this way, but just as when DHS held a press conference from Disney's HQ, there's a certain flaunting feeling when the coordination with private companies against the public is so blatant.

All that being said, you'd at least expect the FBI, no matter what level of corporate bowing they wish to engage in, to at least keep American citizens apprised of threats against their life. Unfortunately, it would appear the FBI disagrees when the citizens in question are Occupy leadership, as they allowed a plot to murder Occupy leadership in Texas with suppressed sniper rifles go untold until a rights group dug it up.

[2naSalit]

10. +1

[Eyeball_Kid]

17. The FBI, if holding a pro-White GOP bias, is a half breath from being exposed by MSM.

So they MUST investigate and cover their asses by pursuing the perps. But it should go without saying: The FBI is part of the DOJ. It's a subset. The FBI takes direction from the DOJ. The FBI director takes orders from Garland. It's Wray and Garland to take the heat on this one.

[FelineOverlord]

18. The FBI, if holding a pro-White GOP bias, is a half breath from being exposed by MSM.

Garland wasn't in office in December when the SITE Intelligence Group was warning about this.

But Wray has a lot of explaining to do about many, many things. I was willing to give him a chance, but after everything that has come out about January 6th and Kavanaugh, he needs to be FIRED.

[DFW]

5. I think there were far less failures on Jan. 6th than we think, and THAT is scary

I think the invaders of the Capitol were informed--in detail--about where the vulnerable points of entry were, where they should go, and what resistance to expect (i.e. none).

I think the ONLY thing they did NOT reckon with was that anyone would shoot back. When the crazy air force woman was shot while trying to break in to the House floor, I think word rippled quickly throughout the ranks of the invaders that, contrary to what they had been led to expect, someone was shooting back. I'm sure they had been told that no one would, and that this freaked out a number of them. They expected to commit their mayhem with complete immunity, with no resistance, and certainly not with armed resistance. If the word "they're is shooting back, one of us is dead!" was passed around, it was passed around in a very confined space, which means they all knew within minutes. That might have been the ONLY thing that gave the Trumpanzees pause.

If and when the people responsible for setting this whole thing up are finally identified, those who do not flee or commit suicide, as an alternative to being forced to testify, should be squeezed like a ripe lemon for every bit of the story in which they were involved. The country deserves to know what they did, but first and foremost, WHO they are, and how they did it. If this doesn't happen, what's to stop them from learning from their mistakes and trying again?

[uponit7771]

15. +1

[Andy823]

23. Exactly

trumps people were in charge and "they" did what trump wanted by ignoring the warnings. As you said, the people responsible will be identified, and they all need to be investigated and held accountable for their roll in the attack on democracy!

[Hekate]

25. +2

[Champp]

7. The Republicans betrayed America

in so many ways.

The House investigators must know by now which of the Republican flunkies were in the chain-of-intentional-fail, and which of them followed and passed on Republican ORDERS that no doubt dribbled down, sneakily and sleazily, from their foul-mouthed, lie-infested Republican Casino-Hustler-in-Chief.

Name the Republican traitors. Charge them, try them, convict them, and then lock them up.

[Kaleva]

13. SITE is a controversial organisation

Accused by some for vigilantism and falsely accusing Islamic organizations of being terrorist groups so take this article with a grain of salt.

If the report reinforced your world view, you'll accept it without question.

[triron]

20. Source? Facts?

[Kaleva]

29. google works well

"Controversies

"Federal agencies, including the National Security Agency, the F.B.I. and the Department of Homeland Security, monitor suspected terror sites on the Internet and sometimes track users. Private groups like Ms. Katz's Search for International Terrorist Entities Institute and The Middle East Media Research Institute are also keeping track of the ever-changing content of these sites. Ms. Katz's institute, which relies on government contracts and corporate clients, may be the most influential of those groups, and she is among the most controversial of the cyberspace monitors. While some experts praise her research as solid, some of her targets view her as a vigilante. Several Islamic groups and charities, for example, sued for defamation after she claimed they were terrorist fronts, even though they were not charged with a crime," the New York Times reported September 23, 2004.[10]

On 30 May 2008, The Daily Telegraph published an online article reporting that SITE had wrongly identified footage from the post-apocalyptic computer game Fallout 3 as being created by terrorists considering a nuclear attack against the West. According to the article, SITE found the Fallout 3 images in a video called Nuclear Jihad: The Ultimate Terror, posted on two possibly al-Qaeda affiliated and password protected websites, where it also gleaned chat logs from users discussing nuclear attacks on the West.[11] SITE released a statement to clarify its position, stating that it never claimed the images were produced by terrorists, although it didn't admit to knowing from the start that they were video game images.[12] The Daily Telegraph subsequently removed the article from its website."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITE_Institute

[triron]

31. This just indicates your post is somewhat too zealous imo.

Bit I can see how some with certain perspectives may be more sympathetic to what you say. I am not in that category.
Thanks for the more informative 2nd post.

[Kaleva]

36. I think those who accept the source w/o question maybe overzealo

I doubt anyone here had heard of SITE before but it appears a number in this thread accept what is said in the the article without question despite no knowledge of the source.

[mopinko]

14. after the plot to kidnap whittmer came out, nobody should have or could have been surprised.

there was no failure here. the stand down order might have been the hardest part of the coup to pull off, but pull it off they did.

[Dustlawyer]

19. I used to do Pro Bono work for a very large group of Texas police officers (16,000 members).

I went to 3 annual conventions they held where AG, now governor, Abbot and then governor Rick Perry were keynote speakers. I was the only openly Democrat in attendance. They tolerated me because of what I had done for them. The strange thing was that several cops would take me aside privately and confess they voted for Democrats but could not admit it for fear of reprisal and termination. It is that bad in law enforcement!

[wryter2000]

21. Everyone on this board knew there was a good chance of violence

It was obvious to everyone.

[Hekate]

26. Yes we did. The insurrectionists were broadcasting their intentions loud and clear. nt

[babylonsister]

30. Yes. I was expecting something,

expectations exceeded.

[appleannie1]

22. I turned on MSNBC as soon as I got out of bed that morning.

I knew there was going to be problems. My daughter got home from work in the morning, turned on the news, and tried to stay awake all day. That is something she never does. If we knew something was going to happen, I never could figure out why cops did not know. From the very beginning, when help did not arrive, I knew something was fishy and people at the top were in on it.

[hadEnuf]

27. So it was an inside job as well.

No surprise, but there needs to be consequences for this.

[triron]

32. If the DOJ does not get it's act together and prosecute the ringleaders, I am afraid we are

going the way of 1030s Germany.

[Joelteply]

28. It was everywhere

I get that it’s unnerving to follow right wing forums but in my free time I was reading/participating on theDonald fairly regularly and this was damn obvious. It didn’t take some special organization to figure it out. These were heavily trafficked public forums.

I was telling everyone around me what was going to happen. I took screenshots of all the planned violence and even was aware of specific threats like bombings. It wasn’t exactly hidden to the world. I felt a little ridiculous sending the info the the FBI at the time, because I was sure they were monitoring it. My family thought I was crazy for telling them what was gonna happen on the 6th.

To find out this was such a mystery to so many people is incredibly frustrating. It actually turned out a little less violent than I anticipated.

People need to wake up and put in a little time following and talking to these nuts if possible. They want to kill us next.

[stopdiggin]

35. a massive failure on the part of our 'official'

intelligence apparatus. Really can't be overstated - or overemphasized.

[UTUSN]

33. K&R

[stopdiggin]

34. a 'private' security organization

with a hit and miss record/reputation. Personally I am much more concerned with the type of intelligence (and communication) coming forth from our official LE and intelligence sources. More than enough criticism to go around there. Why in the world would we be relying on people like SITE in the first place?

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

37. If someone threatens to kill you, or someone else, take it seriously,

report it to the police, and do your best to make sure they take it as seriously as you do.

[bucolic_frolic]

38. I wonder how many MAGA addicts read "carry out a coup" and realize what that actually means

Talk about nonchalance. Oh, it's a coup. They happen around the world all the time. Life goes on.

Why have we shortened coup d'etat to coup? And are we differentiating properly between a coup d'etat and an insurrection?

I think coup d'etat often but not always refers to a military takeover. An insurrection is an armed usually civilian seizure of political power that may or may not involve military participation, and always has political leaders running things.

Or at least that's my take on these terms.

[scarytomcat]

39. more than a failure to act .....police were told to not act

told not use force and not given any back-up or protection
why because they were white people protesting